The reason the Jazz couldn't keep Jefferson and Milsap was money, they
couldn't pay them what they thought they were worth and keep the young core
of players they think are the future of the Jazz. It isn't that they
didn't like them or think they were good, they weren't good enough to
take them to the next level though and both players wanted and probably deserved
the pay the got from Atlanta and Charlotte. The Jazz are on the right track but
it will take time and some developing and some trades etc , it won't come
by free agency but if the Jazz can gather enough assets, they will be able to
trade those assests to get who they want.
Sorry, I meant a one trick pony.
Since a good defense is imperative to win titles, not re-signing Jefferson was
necessary. He was great offensively down low. But that is all he did. That made
the Jazz a one horse pony team. He could not play defense. He had to go. The
Jazz' new coach and his defense and pass first mentality, and the players
coming on board with his philosophy, is just exactly what the Jazz need. Think
Detroit Pistons in their championship year. Defense was the difference that
year. I am excited to see what the Jazz players do and where it takes the team
this year. Very excited. Go Jazz.
I must comment on the supposed merit of CJ Miles's commentary. CJ, you are
a very negative person. You detract from the quality of posts here, not because
you care enough to comment which speaks for itself, but your poor evaluation of
talent. Millsap and Jefferson both had heart and played hard, but Jefferson was
a matador on defense like Boozer before him and Millsap was too short and not as
athletic as some to be an upper-echelon PF. You say you might like Trevor Booker
but fail to mention that one of the reasons is because he is more athletic than
Millsap. Also, the Jazz are improving and aren't strapped by Hayward's
contract. They are in good shapefinancially compared to most teams. So far, you
have been wrong about CJ Miles, Al Jefferson and Gordon Hayward. And you just
gave a little slam to Trey Burke in another post. Who's next? A true fan
you are not.
It's good to have CJ on this thread, someone who knows more and brings more
basketball knowledge to the table than all the rest of us put together.
Jefferson and Millsap didn't have a PG or a 2 guard that could play
basketball. Had the Jazz kept them both, this year the Jazz would have made the
playoffs and continued to ascend in the Western conference. And yes, they could
have afforded to keep them both. Lindsey was the one who let them go. You can
call it critical, I call it being honest about where the Jazz stand right now.
Worse off than they were two years ago. Now they are strapped with a horrible
contract for Hayward (Lindsey's doing) The Jazz are a mess right now but
you can keep hoping that will change.
@ CJ Miles...I agree with Brio. You've developed a reputation
as being very critical of everything the Jazz try to do. The sad thing in this
instance is that Lindsey has been here only a short time and Snyder only a few
weeks... and you've already written things off once again. Let's give them a chance and the benefit of any doubt until they have
enough time to actually prove whether their vision and plan will work or not.
The last season when Jefferson and Millsap were here was not
impressive. We couldn't even make the playoffs with both of them as well as
several other higher paid veterans. As such, I'm glad Jazz management chose
to clean the plate and pick a new menu. Now let's wait until the food gets
prepared before criticizing the chef too heavily.It's
impossible to go from a lower-tiered non-playoff team to being a competitive
contender almost overnight. It will probably take a few years and a bit of
patience. It's obvious some Jazz fans became too spoiled during the
Stockton-Malone-Sloan years. A new foundation is being built. It will happen.
Jefferson, Millsap, Favors and some growing up of the young ones could have made
the Jazz a contender in the West. So yes, I do think they could have gotten the
Jazz to the finals. Hood and Exum are going to be good. And you all think that
Hayward is the answer. So a starting lineup of Jefferson, Favors, Hayward, Hood
and Exum had a ton of potential. With Milsap, Burke, Burkes, Carroll and Kanter
off the bench. I would bet on that team.
CJ Miles. So do you really think Jefferson and Millsap would've
gotten the Jazz to the finals or something?I don't know about
you, but I'm not content with being the 8th seed. Sloan and LHM
just brought playoff mediocrity to the Jazz for all except 2 years.
I think I like the guy too. Keep expectations realistic. He is a Milsap Light
not a Karl Malone.
@Brio: When Jazz management can't put a playoff team on the floor, I am
going to be critical. They did not need to get rid of Jefferson, Carroll or
Milsap. Jerry and Larry didn't rebuild. They re-stocked. They kept a
winning team on the floor for almost 2 decades. Now the new management team
can't even figure out which direction they are going. There two best
players in the future, are both point guards. They give Hayward a max contract
and he is middle of the road. Favors is not a go-to guy in the post. They
don't have the players that can win championships down the line. You have
to have vets on the team to win. Oklahoma is learning that lesson. You win
with experience. Millsap and Jefferson were experience.
I live in the DC suburbs and, although I am still a die hard Jazz fan, I also
root for the Wizards and I have watched them grow from a perennial cellar
dweller to a playoff team with players like Booker. Be good to him, Jazz fans,
and he'll be good to you.
Interesting that CJ Miles finally likes a player and a move that Lindsey made a
deal for. Up until now, its been nearly constant criticism.Unless
there was a misprint in the article, Booker's points per minute played has
been very impressive in his career so far. And how does a fan not like a player
who actually wants to earn his court time, instead of having it just given to
him. He and coach Snyder should be a great match.I'm getting
more and more excited about this coming season. The Jazz are going to surprise
I might actually like this guy.