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Published: Tuesday, July 22 2014 11:55 p.m. MDT

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WasatchDuck
slc, UT

YES! YES! YES!

Please let this happen!

I just hope they avoid turf and use real grass, make it as similar to Rio Tinto as possible.

Russ
Salt Lake City, UT

why not a Major League Baseball Team? I know soccer is popular right now, but why not pay for the one in Sandy first. I would rather see a new shopping center or housing in that location. Also, I think since our tax money is being used it should be on a ballet. Does no one care anymore or are they just going to roll over and let the politicians make every decision? Wake up Utah, stand your ground. Does anyone even care about the State Fair anymore? Why not improve the Fair Grounds instead of another sports stadium no one can afford to attend? Utah people are so ambivalent and sheep like it is just amazing.

RSLJAZZBYUUTAH
West Valley, UT

Russ

Salt Lake City, UT

First of all, you should realize by now, your vote doesn't matter, just look at the news, and second, the soccer games are actually quite affordable, you can buy a Maverik Corner ticket for 16 bucks, and there isn't a bad seat in Rio Tinto at least.

Brave Sir Robin
San Diego, CA

@Russ

"why not a Major League Baseball Team?"

Because baseball is a dying sport. Everybody's finally figured out how boring it is.

"why not pay for the one in Sandy first."

The one in Sandy is paid for. The public funds have already been paid back in full. Ironically, the Jazz arena has not yet been paid back in full....I don't hear much whining about that.

"I think since our tax money is being used it should be on a ballet."

You're already getting a publicly-funded ballet theater. Google "Eccles theater."

"Does anyone even care about the State Fair anymore?"

No. That's why they have no money. Once the soccer team moves in, people will care and the money will flow.

"Why not improve the Fair Grounds instead of another sports stadium no one can afford to attend?"

You answered your own question above. Don't just improve the fairgrounds because nobody cares about the state fair any more. And FYI, you can get RSL season tickets for the same price as two Jazz games.

caleb in new york
Glen Cove, NY

i'm a big soccer fan, but taxpayers should always smell-something fishy about a public-private partnership. sports leagues in the U.S. have done quite well in extorting governments around the country to pony up big money to help them fund stadiums to run their private businesses. RSL is making progress but their finances from Rio Tinto were in big trouble for awhile and thats why Checketts had to sell.

UU32
Bountiful, UT

The Jazz arena was funded by the Millers - not public money.

Strider303
Salt Lake City, UT

I like the old Fair Park buildings, they have style. That being said, the Fair Park must change to remain viable, and if we need to put in other buildings and venues to assure a longer use season and commercial traffic to make the investment of money worthwhile I will support it.

A stadium of sorts, and convention buildings or multipurpose buildings could still host the State Fair, but would not sit idle for weeks or months on end as they do now.

With good lines of communication i.e., rail and road and, hopefully, intelligent traffic and parking management it could work. If the athletic field was properly designed it could be a multi-sport surface and host maybe rugby and high school football or lacrosse contests.

The devil is always in the details but some serious re-purposing of the grounds is worth a meeting or two.

Martin Blank
Salt Lake City, UT

UU32, that's a common misperception; some would say perpetuated by the Millers themselves. The then-Delta Center was the beneficiary of a $24 million grant of land and infrastructure from a bond secured by the Salt Lake City RDA. The RDA still holds a 50-year (starting in 1990) lease on the land.

jordan pushed off
roy, UT

check your facts, man
Larry Miller paid for the arena out of his own pocket with no taxpayer funds at all.
Just one of the things that made him a GREAT owner.

Brave Sir Robin
San Diego, CA

@UU32

Wrong. The Jazz arena itself was funded by the Millers, but the land, the public easements, and the infrastructure (water, sewer, power, etc.) was paid for 100% by Salt Lake City. The total amount was $32 million.

This is the same structure as the RSL stadium financing. The building itself was paid for by the ownership. The land, easements, and infrastructure were paid for with public money. The total amount was $18 million.

The difference? RSL had to pay it back at $3 million per year, which they actually finished paying off early. Know what the Jazz's payback schedule is? $1 per year. No, that's not a typo. They pay $1 per year. The good news is there are only 31,999,976 years left until the taxpayers have been paid back.

Do your research next time.

jordan pushed off
roy, UT

of course Checkets couldn't run the team. this is the same guy that started the Knicks downfall and had to get the governor to help him hold the state hostage to get the stadium built in the first place.

IRS Agent
PROVO, UT

@ Brave Robin,

Lots of opinion on use of local tax monies from someone not even located in the state.

Evets
Eagle Mountain, UT

Ah, but people DO still care about the fair. I volunteer during the Fair every year and the attendance is great. But the fair is only 10 days out of the year. There are 355 other days that could be used if the facility was upgraded and new venues added. The Fair Park has such potential if it was managed correctly and built out in such a way to attract other activities.

Dante
Salt Lake City, UT

Gotta laugh: Robin took Russ literally in speaking of "ballet" when Russ intended "ballot."

joeyT
Schenectady, NY

Quick answer:

* baseball would cost 4x as much
* exactly one baseball team has moved since 1972
* because baseball has no meaningful salary cap, your 4x as expensive baseball team probably loses 95 games a year

Vote doesn't look as good after that, does it?

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