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Published: Thursday, July 24 2014 12:00 a.m. MDT

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Salt Lake City, UT

I absolutely agree with your editorial. Like everything else this crisis is being used as an excuse to hammer the administration. On this issue could we give it a rest?

The United States is probably the largest trading partner for all of the source countries. Could we get some corporate help in handling this load?

But it would appear this situation will inflict permanent harm on a whole lot of kids.

Salt Lake City, UT

I cannot believe this propaganda piece. Shame on the author for trying to inflict guilt upon anyone that opposes this foreign invasion.

Maybe 1 in a 100 of the people illegally coming over the border is a child. The rest are adults, or older teenagers, mostly male, many with ties to gangs and have criminal records. In States across the US many violent crimes are being committed by people that have come into the country illegally.

If the conditions are so terrible in the countries that these people are fleeing from, would it not be better for the US to pressure these countries to clean up the corruption and violence in these countries.

Go to youtube and search "La Beatie"? How many children do you see riding atop the trains?

Gather up the children, treat them for any illnesses, When they have regained their health send them back to their parents in their home countries.

Provo, UT

I see it much differently. History will remember the dishonesty perpetuated on the American people by many groups, the lack of immigration enforcement, and how the pro-illegal groups used children as pawns. They will wonder how people sat by and let it happen.

People in the future will wonder why we rewarded illegal behavior with amnesty, and expected it to solve the problem.

With all the genealogy sites on line, it's easy to see just how many children came here by themselves. Two thirds of the children who are now crossing our border are with parents, guardians or have family here. Many of the children who came here legally before 1976 were alone, and either re-united with parents or family.

Salt Lake City, UT

Surely the Deseret News is aware that it has been amply demonstrated that those crossing the Texas border illegally are not escaping bona fide, imminent danger but rather are responding to assurances by Obama and others that if they enter this country, they will not be deported. Yet the paper is deliberately giving an impression that they are escaping imminent danger. Yet it does so in a plausibly deniable manner, by couching it as an "understanding" -- i.e., "The compassionate stance UNDERSTANDS they fled to escape poverty." (upper caps mine) This way it can say that it didn't actually assert it as a point of fact.

Likewise the DN ever so subtly is insinuating that opposition to the illegal-alien invasion is Nazi-esque. Bu again the paper can plausibly deny this too by simply stating, "But we only said it is REMINISCENT; we didn't say it is the case."

And the DN is subtly implying, yet again, that enforcement of immigration law is inhumane and unhelpful -- indeed that it is "harsh and hostile."

Yet here too the paper may plausibly deny actually making an assertion, that it only is asking how the nation will be viewed.

E Sam
Provo, UT

Absolutely right. Will we open our hearts and homes and welcome these kids, as the Christians we profess to be? Or will we give in to xenophobic legalism, and meaningless buzz words, like 'amnesty'?

Sioux City, IA

Interesting article that does nothing to identify the cause of this so-called crisis nor does it offer any suggestions on fixing the root problems.

Here, UT

Besides the immigration issue, there are quite a number of issues history is going to look back at us harsly about. War. Civil rights. Women's rights. etc. We are not always as good as we like to think about ourselves.

Springville, UT

The opposition to humanitarian action that many espouse is shameful. We can and should do more. We can handle it. We can afford it. This editorial is right.

Again, the lack of resolution of the immigration issue is something I place squarely at the feet of the Republican Party. They are trying to deflect responsibility and point the finger at others, but they are the ones who refuse to act, or even bring it up for a vote.

Springville, UT

@ techpubs, while you are correct that the editorial is not specific as to the root of the problem or how to fix it, that's not really the point of the editorial. We have a humanitarian crisis, and the response of many is heartless, cruel and un-Christian. We can handle it if only the right wing would allow it.

As for solutions, when the GOP points the finger at the President, they are trying to deflect responsibility for their lack of action. The root problems could be addressed, but all the right can offer are more walls and "better enforcement." What is ironic is that enforcement can start here at home, but the GOP crowd wouldn't like it. There is blatant hypocrisy at play, including the fact that while Republicans say they love the free market system, they work contrary to the free market system on this issue.

clearfield, UT

As for the human trafficking part,(along with the rape of young boys and girls happening), that would not be happening to them if they had not begun the journey in the first place and put into the hand of some of the most evil people on Earth. The drug cartels. And, as the article states, in the past we have taken in a "few thousand". What happens when this becomes a few million? If the draw is not stopped, that is what it will become. Plus, much as I don't like pointing it out, the fact is, not all immigrants are the same. When living in California I saw many first generation Vietnamese learn English and go on to excell in school and university. For some reason a lot of the Latino community doesn't seem to put a premium on learning English, and therefore will not be able to excell and move up. That puts a much greater lifetime burden on our social services and taxes. That is an issue that has to be addressed, but few will because it will be called racist to even point it out.

Roland Kayser
Cottonwood Heights, UT

I've seen the pictures of people protesting these kids. They look eerily similar to the pictures of people protesting the integration of southern schools.

high school fan
Huntington, UT

There is no way you can compare today's immigration fiasco with any of the items in the opinion piece. This is like comparing apples to peanut butter, it is nonsense.
Those mentioned in the past were brought here, they were invited in but not today's, they are sneaking in. Do you invite someone who breaks into your home to stay or do you call the cops? I guess this opinion makes it legal for me to walk into the deseret news offices and help myself to whatever I would like. I will pass this on to all the homeless that can be found in your neighborhood as they will be happy to know of your generosity. Thank you for being so tolerant.
We should be remembered for feeding them, giving them medical care and then sending them home, all for free. They paid much more than that for the opposite trip. Ee we are nicer than the others.

Murray, UT

You've really jumped the shark on this one Deseret News. You know full well that they are coming here for "Obama's amnesty". It was reported in your paper on June 20th of this year.

I think we all know by the 400,000 adults and 60,000 children who have arrived this year, that amnesty just attracts more people here illegally. How will history judge those who encouraged this surge by their inaction?

The children in your examples were here legally. I see a difference between legal and illegal.

Sandy, UT

Absent in this discussion is one of the root causes for this problem: America's shameful war on drugs. U.S. policies provide the breeding ground for black markets and criminal behavior that make life so dangerous south of our borders. Legalizing drugs would go a long way toward removing incentives for crime and black markets.

Fitness Freak
Salt Lake City, UT

Sorry - the first line of the editorial is FALSE.

Maybe the DN could call somebody on the border patrol (if the border patrol will even talk to them)and ask them about the demographics of who's arriving.

Two myths that have been debunked are that those arriving are all kids. The border patrol says (you know the guys who really know)that between 75-80% of those arriving are adults.
One Congressman who was allowed to visit the newest batch of illegal trespassers says its' between 85-93%.

The other glaring discrepancy is that the "open borders" crowd (you know who you are)claims the illegal trespassers are "destitute".
How can one be destitute if they are able to raise 5-10,000 dollars to make the trek?

Someone help me out with cogent answers PLEASE?

Salt Lake City, UT

I feel sorry for the Republican Party that there are so many radicals amongst their ranks. They make it impossible for Republicans to settle upon any legislation or action, especially when it comes to immigration. Some of the above comments demonstrate fringe right-wing radicalism that is truly just downright scary. Folks calling this historical piece "propaganda" should do more than dismiss any information they don't get from Stossel.

Provo, UT

refugee crisis? Don't you mean Illegal Invasion? Send them back now. Pass E-Verify cut off all freebies, and the majority of those already here will self deport when they can't work anywhere or get freebies! Put our Military on the Border Now!

Say No to BO
Mapleton, UT

This editorial attempts to take the moral high ground but, like with the principles of the Utah Compact, it fails miserably.
The issue now, as then, is whether or not we are willing to act in the national best interest when it comes to immigration policy, or "reform" it to benefit employers, activists, and religious groups?
I get it. The Deseret News favors amnesty.
I do not.
To contort anti-trafficking laws so they benefit human smugglers is only the tip of the iceberg. Obama is proving the coyotes right when they told these families they would get permisos just for showing up at the border. His non-enforcement strategy does just that. Let's not assist him in his sham of loopholes and executive orders.

Redding, CA

The root problem. Maybe it is our selfishness. I do think this humanitarian / refugee crisis needs swift action with a Christian attitude of helping our neighbors. And I keep looking at news stories to find that kind of action highlighted. What is highlighted unfortunately is political hype, not a hint at a solution to the "root problem" of stopping violence and corruption in central American countries.
Maybe the root problem is our own selfishness, protecting our nice neighborhoods, saving our good jobs. Who wants to sacrifice anyway, to help some poor people? Certainly not many of the posters above.
Let's open our homes and help our neighbors, let's enlist charitable organizations to open buildings and bring in food and bedding and other necessities. It's not solely the federal gov't's problem to solve. It's all of ours.
Good editorial, DN, history will look at what we are doing as a community this time, and probably call it disgusting.

Mesquite, NV

Nothing brings out the hair-on-fire haters like an appeal for common decency and the word Latino. I've never been all that clear on what people mean when the say something like "It's the Christian thing to do" but whatever it means I'm pretty sure that a lot of what I'm reading here doesn't qualify.

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