Published: Thursday, July 24 2014 12:00 a.m. MDT
I absolutely agree with your editorial. Like everything else this crisis is
being used as an excuse to hammer the administration. On this issue could we
give it a rest?The United States is probably the largest trading
partner for all of the source countries. Could we get some corporate help in
handling this load?But it would appear this situation will inflict
permanent harm on a whole lot of kids.
I cannot believe this propaganda piece. Shame on the author for trying to
inflict guilt upon anyone that opposes this foreign invasion.Maybe 1
in a 100 of the people illegally coming over the border is a child. The rest
are adults, or older teenagers, mostly male, many with ties to gangs and have
criminal records. In States across the US many violent crimes are being
committed by people that have come into the country illegally.If the
conditions are so terrible in the countries that these people are fleeing from,
would it not be better for the US to pressure these countries to clean up the
corruption and violence in these countries.Go to youtube and search
"La Beatie"? How many children do you see riding atop the trains?Gather up the children, treat them for any illnesses, When they have
regained their health send them back to their parents in their home countries.
I see it much differently. History will remember the dishonesty perpetuated on
the American people by many groups, the lack of immigration enforcement, and how
the pro-illegal groups used children as pawns. They will wonder how people sat
by and let it happen. People in the future will wonder why we
rewarded illegal behavior with amnesty, and expected it to solve the problem.
With all the genealogy sites on line, it's easy to see just how
many children came here by themselves. Two thirds of the children who are now
crossing our border are with parents, guardians or have family here. Many of the
children who came here legally before 1976 were alone, and either re-united with
parents or family.
Surely the Deseret News is aware that it has been amply demonstrated that those
crossing the Texas border illegally are not escaping bona fide, imminent danger
but rather are responding to assurances by Obama and others that if they enter
this country, they will not be deported. Yet the paper is deliberately giving
an impression that they are escaping imminent danger. Yet it does so in a
plausibly deniable manner, by couching it as an "understanding" -- i.e.,
"The compassionate stance UNDERSTANDS they fled to escape poverty."
(upper caps mine) This way it can say that it didn't actually assert it as
a point of fact. Likewise the DN ever so subtly is insinuating that
opposition to the illegal-alien invasion is Nazi-esque. Bu again the paper can
plausibly deny this too by simply stating, "But we only said it is
REMINISCENT; we didn't say it is the case." And the DN is
subtly implying, yet again, that enforcement of immigration law is inhumane and
unhelpful -- indeed that it is "harsh and hostile." Yet
here too the paper may plausibly deny actually making an assertion, that it only
is asking how the nation will be viewed.
Absolutely right. Will we open our hearts and homes and welcome these kids, as
the Christians we profess to be? Or will we give in to xenophobic legalism, and
meaningless buzz words, like 'amnesty'?
Interesting article that does nothing to identify the cause of this so-called
crisis nor does it offer any suggestions on fixing the root problems.
Besides the immigration issue, there are quite a number of issues history is
going to look back at us harsly about. War. Civil rights. Women's
rights. etc. We are not always as good as we like to think about ourselves.
The opposition to humanitarian action that many espouse is shameful. We can and
should do more. We can handle it. We can afford it. This editorial is
right.Again, the lack of resolution of the immigration issue is
something I place squarely at the feet of the Republican Party. They are trying
to deflect responsibility and point the finger at others, but they are the ones
who refuse to act, or even bring it up for a vote.
@ techpubs, while you are correct that the editorial is not specific as to the
root of the problem or how to fix it, that's not really the point of the
editorial. We have a humanitarian crisis, and the response of many is
heartless, cruel and un-Christian. We can handle it if only the right wing
would allow it.As for solutions, when the GOP points the finger at
the President, they are trying to deflect responsibility for their lack of
action. The root problems could be addressed, but all the right can offer are
more walls and "better enforcement." What is ironic is that enforcement
can start here at home, but the GOP crowd wouldn't like it. There is
blatant hypocrisy at play, including the fact that while Republicans say they
love the free market system, they work contrary to the free market system on
As for the human trafficking part,(along with the rape of young boys and girls
happening), that would not be happening to them if they had not begun the
journey in the first place and put into the hand of some of the most evil
people on Earth. The drug cartels. And, as the article states, in the past we
have taken in a "few thousand". What happens when this becomes a few
million? If the draw is not stopped, that is what it will become. Plus, much
as I don't like pointing it out, the fact is, not all immigrants are the
same. When living in California I saw many first generation Vietnamese learn
English and go on to excell in school and university. For some reason a lot of
the Latino community doesn't seem to put a premium on learning English, and
therefore will not be able to excell and move up. That puts a much greater
lifetime burden on our social services and taxes. That is an issue that has to
be addressed, but few will because it will be called racist to even point it
I've seen the pictures of people protesting these kids. They look eerily
similar to the pictures of people protesting the integration of southern
There is no way you can compare today's immigration fiasco with any of the
items in the opinion piece. This is like comparing apples to peanut butter, it
is nonsense.Those mentioned in the past were brought here, they were
invited in but not today's, they are sneaking in. Do you invite someone
who breaks into your home to stay or do you call the cops? I guess this opinion
makes it legal for me to walk into the deseret news offices and help myself to
whatever I would like. I will pass this on to all the homeless that can be
found in your neighborhood as they will be happy to know of your generosity.
Thank you for being so tolerant.We should be remembered for feeding them,
giving them medical care and then sending them home, all for free. They paid
much more than that for the opposite trip. Ee we are nicer than the others.
You've really jumped the shark on this one Deseret News. You know full well
that they are coming here for "Obama's amnesty". It was reported in
your paper on June 20th of this year. I think we all know by the
400,000 adults and 60,000 children who have arrived this year, that amnesty just
attracts more people here illegally. How will history judge those who encouraged
this surge by their inaction? The children in your examples were
here legally. I see a difference between legal and illegal.
Absent in this discussion is one of the root causes for this problem:
America's shameful war on drugs. U.S. policies provide the breeding ground
for black markets and criminal behavior that make life so dangerous south of our
borders. Legalizing drugs would go a long way toward removing incentives for
crime and black markets.
Sorry - the first line of the editorial is FALSE.Maybe the DN could
call somebody on the border patrol (if the border patrol will even talk to
them)and ask them about the demographics of who's arriving.Two
myths that have been debunked are that those arriving are all kids. The border
patrol says (you know the guys who really know)that between 75-80% of those
arriving are adults.One Congressman who was allowed to visit the newest
batch of illegal trespassers says its' between 85-93%.The other
glaring discrepancy is that the "open borders" crowd (you know who you
are)claims the illegal trespassers are "destitute".How can one be
destitute if they are able to raise 5-10,000 dollars to make the trek?Someone help me out with cogent answers PLEASE?
I feel sorry for the Republican Party that there are so many radicals amongst
their ranks. They make it impossible for Republicans to settle upon any
legislation or action, especially when it comes to immigration. Some of the
above comments demonstrate fringe right-wing radicalism that is truly just
downright scary. Folks calling this historical piece "propaganda"
should do more than dismiss any information they don't get from Stossel.
refugee crisis? Don't you mean Illegal Invasion? Send them back now. Pass
E-Verify cut off all freebies, and the majority of those already here will self
deport when they can't work anywhere or get freebies! Put our Military on
the Border Now!
This editorial attempts to take the moral high ground but, like with the
principles of the Utah Compact, it fails miserably.The issue now, as then,
is whether or not we are willing to act in the national best interest when it
comes to immigration policy, or "reform" it to benefit employers,
activists, and religious groups?I get it. The Deseret News favors
amnesty.I do not.To contort anti-trafficking laws so they benefit
human smugglers is only the tip of the iceberg. Obama is proving the coyotes
right when they told these families they would get permisos just for showing up
at the border. His non-enforcement strategy does just that. Let's not
assist him in his sham of loopholes and executive orders.
The root problem. Maybe it is our selfishness. I do think this humanitarian /
refugee crisis needs swift action with a Christian attitude of helping our
neighbors. And I keep looking at news stories to find that kind of action
highlighted. What is highlighted unfortunately is political hype, not a hint at
a solution to the "root problem" of stopping violence and corruption in
central American countries. Maybe the root problem is our own
selfishness, protecting our nice neighborhoods, saving our good jobs. Who wants
to sacrifice anyway, to help some poor people? Certainly not many of the
posters above.Let's open our homes and help our neighbors, let's
enlist charitable organizations to open buildings and bring in food and bedding
and other necessities. It's not solely the federal gov't's
problem to solve. It's all of ours.Good editorial, DN, history will
look at what we are doing as a community this time, and probably call it
Nothing brings out the hair-on-fire haters like an appeal for common decency and
the word Latino. I've never been all that clear on what people mean when
the say something like "It's the Christian thing to do" but
whatever it means I'm pretty sure that a lot of what I'm reading here
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