I'm proud of the church for going through all the entanglements and
permitting on this particular temple and not giving up. Some times the hardest
temples to build are the ones most endeared and loved by the members.
At last! A forum for my numerous gripes about temple designs. Can't wait to
get started! Here goes:...Okay, after reading all the previous
comments I have decided to keep my architectural grievances to myself. With over
150 temples in operation or under construction, yes, they run the gamut from
majestic to awkward; from photogenic to plain Jane. All of them, however, are
Houses of the Lord, and I will try to focus on the purposes they serve.
Michigander,No. Please read through the NT. They went a lot.
Twin Lights,to heal the lame man.
Donn,Two question:You note that Rev. 3:2 indicates no
temple but that is after "a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven
and the first earth had passed away". In other areas of Revelations, does
it not reference a temple (at least twice)?Why did his Apostles go
to the temple after his death and resurrection?
RE: Twin Lights, “the temple ‘WAS’ important.” God
repeatedly stresses that the Old Covenant is finished. It is obsolete (Hebrews
8:13). Yet JS, “These sacrifices, as well as every ordinance
belonging to the Priesthood, will, when the Temple of the Lord shall be built,
and the sons of Levi be purified, be fully restored and attended to in all their
powers, ramifications, and blessings. This ever did and ever will exist when the
powers of the Melchisedek Priesthood are sufficiently manifest; else how can the
restitution of all things spoken of by the holy Prophets be brought to pass? It
is not to be understood that the law of Moses will be established again with all
its rites and variety of ceremonies; this has never been spoken of by the
Prophets; but those things which existed prior to Moses' day, namely,
sacrifice, will be continued.” (Hof C v 4 p.211-212). JS was
aware religious Jews had no sacrifice for sin(No Messiah)and need a temple
rebuilt. The sacrificial system was "imposed until the time of
reformation" (Hebrews 9:10). Christ's sacrifice was the once-for-all.
Donn,He was greater than the temple. The master of the house is
always greater than the house over which he presides. But he was crystal clear
that he considered the temple to be His Father’s house. Agreed? Christ
was clear that the temple was important, right? Let’s just get that one
point clear before we move on to anything else.No disagreement with
Paul. We are (also) the temple of God. We may have the presence of the Holy
Ghost in our lives.I am familiar with the term Cohen and their
historic lineage. Giving men specific authority (as in a priesthood - we can
argue the specifics later) are clearly outlined throughout the New Testament.
RE: TwinLights, "He would have condemned it as a waste." True,He
Fulfilled their purpose:(Jesus) one greater than the temple has
come! Jesus Christ. It is in Christ’s church–as Jesus’
mystical body–he fulfillment of the O. T. prophecies regarding Jerusalem
and the Mountain of the Lord. The promise of a land, will be fulfilled in a new
heaven and earth in the consummation (Rom 4:13; Heb 11:9-10. Christ
is the New Temple . “For we are the temple of the living God” (2 Cor
6:16)–what use remains for a future literal temple? That to which the
temple had pointed, is now a reality through the work of the Holy Spirit.
The Aaronic or Levitical priesthood ended with the death of Christ. The
entire function ,and the term Cohen means, ’one who stands up for another,
and mediate the cause.” Before the *Great Sacrifice ,the priest had to
stand in the gap for the people and offer animal sacrifices. Do Mormons still
carry out this function. No! Therefore their office is insignificant.
Actually this is not Gothic. Gothic architecture features spires, windows with
Gothic arches, and other elements, none of which are apparent from the
illustration of the new Meridian temple. It has a certain Byzantine sense to
it, but Gothic it is not.
I have seen (from the outside) Oakland and Los Angeles, and (inside and out)
Dallas, Houston, Salt Lake, Oklahoma City, and Nauvoo. I have seen pictures of
all the rest. I have yet to see a Temple that was not beautiful. Even before I
was LDS, I thought Temples were beautiful buildings; now that I am, I am even
more convinced.When I see the negative comments above, I am reminded
of Ether 12:26 ...
The commitment to consecration and sacrifice made and then reinforced in the
temple spillover into community service and volunteerism.If temples
were a waste, Christ would not have cleansed the temple twice. He would have
condemned it as a waste. He didn't.
Temples are usually built in response to need and utilization. Saints in the
Meridian area will be blessed.
What a enormous waste of money. If only the LDS church used its vast wealth for
good rather than evil.
RE: Big Al, your total lack of understanding of why the LDS Church builds
temples.… I saw No temple in it, for the Lord God Almighty and
the Lamb are its temple (Rev 21:22).Soon after the 1988 survey,
plans were underway to change the endowment ceremony again (the ceremony had
been modified many times since its introduction in Nauvoo, Illinois in the early
1840's). In 1990, the revised ceremony became effective:This
time period when Israel would have No temple nor sacrifice was predicted by (
Hosea 3:4-5 TLB)… “ Israel will be a long time without a king or
prince, and without an altar, Temple, priests, or even idols! Afterward they
will return to the Lord their God and to the Messiah(Jesus), their King, and
they shall come trembling, submissive to the Lord and to his blessings in the
First of all, my message is to Hutterite. All your comments (which only occur on
articles referring to the LDS Church) are so negative. Please stop, because you
are not benefiting anyone.Second, people are always accusing the
Church of "wasteful" spending on temples...but nothing could be further
from the truth. Temples are the "House of the Lord." They are the
holiest places on earth to members. If you read the Bible, which apparently many
who criticize the Church do, you will find that Christ held the temple most
sacred. Only few accounts of his anger occur in the scriptures, but one is in
relation the temple being desecrated. Those who truly understand Christ and his
mission know that it was not a temporal, political or social mission. What good
would homeless shelters do if, in the end, all mankind was damned? The work of
salvation is the most important work. This was and still is Christ's
Hutterite, as a designer who took a modern architecture class, I'd have to
disagree--most of these temples are very Frank Lloyd Wrightian with a little Art
Deco. Sure, the older ones have some gothic elements, but FLW or modernist
inclinations easily make up the majority.In the San Diego area where
I live, is probably the most recently constructed temple that could be called
gothic. Is has elements relating to that, but they are done in such a clean and
contemporary way that it feels much more approachable and friendly.
Mixhigander.Why would a person read the Deseret news when they live in
michigan if there not Mormon? Just curious.
Michigander,You are welcome to do this with your buildings in
Monongahela anytime you wish.
To Michigander:Your comments belies your total lack of understanding
of why the LDS Church builds temples. Jesus did many things to help people,
including the poor and unfortunate, other then give them money and affordable
housing!Those of your ilk no doubt think a talented pianist could
play a beautiful sonata by plunking on the same key over and over again--no
chords, no runs, no melody--just the same single key in a rueful attempt to
achieve a beautiful song.BTW, are you aware of the financial output
of the LDS Church to help the groups you mention? This is IN ADDITION TO
building of temples to provide spiritual nourishment and strength. You get it?
Playing a beautiful song by using the entire keyboard??
Also, affordable housing for migrant farm workers, and those who are more than
willing to work hard, but have been hit hard by the Great Recession.
All these buildings should be converted into townhouses or condominiums for
homeless veterans, senior citizens, assisted living facilities.
Can someone please update the Dallas Temple to white granite like the Boise
temple? Or totally reconstruct it to look like the cool Portland temple? I
mean, temples are supposed to be glorious. Gray is not glorious. White is a
glorious color. Where can I submit a request? I think a lot of Dallas/Ft. Worth
Texans would agree with me.
I'm sure that the first presidency has no idea where temples are needed.
They are probably using a dartboard and a map. I'm sure that the bar code
that is scanned in every time a person enters is never used to help track temple
attendance and indicate the areas where another temple is justified by existing
usage in the area. Probably, the work done in the temple is probably never
recorded here on earth either... (Tongue planted firmly in cheek!!)I
have lived my life in several areas where a temple was a 6 hour or more drive
away. When the church started building smaller temples in areas where a full
size temple wasn't feasible it was a huge blessing for those that had to
travel long distances to attend. I'm sure those in Idaho who are getting a
temple in their back yard are thrilled for the opportunity. Temples will
continue to dot the earth as the work of the Lord moves forward. They are an
essential part of the Plan of Salvation. In spots where there is a large
concentration of LDS members those dots might be closer together.
To "Hutterite":You must be thanking your lucky stars that
you (listed from American Fork) live ~300 miles from the new Meridian temple, so
you won't be forced to look at it from time to time.The design
of the Mount Timpanogus temple (in your back yard) is quite different from
Meridian. I hope you feel that temple incorporated "inspired
architecture." Or you could drive to downtown Provo within the near future,
or head the other way around the point to view Oquirrh Mountain, Draper, or
Jordan River. Quite a variety for anyone possessing such a discerning eye for
inspired architecture . . .
Not sure a 20 minute temple ceremony would be much better than a temple
app...glad a prophet executes the Lords' will more than caveman...just
Every place I've been in the last 10 years they have talked about the poor
attendance and the need to encourage more members to attend. Many old timers
have told me the % of attending members was greater when they had to go farther.
With that in mind, do we need all these additional temples?
Has the look of the Alberta Cardston Temple, The Hawaii Temple and the Arizona
Temple. Not unusual at all.
Has the look of a Mosque.Temples seem to be a waste of funds. Why
not add a room or two to Stake Centers for the temple work cutting the ceremony
to 20 minutes or so? And marriages can be conducted in the chapel. It's
not the temple that authorizes marriage for time and eternity. It's the
priesthood authority conducting the ceremony.
I have a hard time believing that anyone would have to look at the Temple if
they didn't want to. Some people just have to complain about everything.
Not the prettiest of designs for sure.
Another gothic monolith. Where's the inspired architechture? I say that not
as a member, which I'm not, but as someone who has to look at these things
from time to time.
The article is confusing. It says the building will be 70 feet tall, with a
spire extending to 120 feet. BUT - in the next paragraph it says the temple
doesn't have a traditional steeple. And the architect's rendering
shows a dome rather than a steeple. I'm no expert, but that dome
isn't adding another 50 feet to the height of the structure.(I
live about 15 miles away from the site, and am looking forward to seeing this
interesting new design take shape!)