Published: Monday, July 21 2014 12:00 a.m. MDT
Boy, oh boy. The 2nd Amendment fanatics are going to really go nuts with these
comments.I wonder just how much gun violence it will take for the
rest of the country to tell the far, far, far right gun lovers to quiet down and
accept some common sense restrictions to the unfettered death machines they so
love to acquire and protect.Of course, these means that the vast
majority must take a stand, which is certainly doubtful. The NRA has convinced
us they are solely responsible for our freedoms.
Hooray! Yes! But watch this space. Sensible letters like this one, on this
topic, tend to bring out the worst in people.
News flash to liberals: Criminals will not obey any of your worthless gun laws
and they never will! More gun laws are about as effective in fighting crime as
passing ever more laws against murder or stealing or buying and selling drugs!
Some people will do it no matter what your laws say or how many laws you pass!
In Switzerland it is required by law for every citizen to own a gun and they
have the lowest crime rate in the world! Proving crime is not caused by guns but
is a cultural problem caused in the most part by broken homes.
Patricia,The problem is that we have basically 2 camps when it comes
to guns.You are typical of one type. (i.e reasonable, sensible, logical
restrictions)The other type will counter with the notion that when
the 2nd Amendment states "shall not be infringed", this means that
Anyone can carry Any Weapon, Anywhere.This will be the type that
will blast your post.
2nd amendment, gun nuts? Common Sense?Ha!They will
accept the deaths of Sandy Hook, Aurora CO movies, and Viginia Tech maaacres --
and thousands of others -- all in the name of "Constitutional"
purity...-- while thinking nothing of banning the use of certain
cough syrups, allegy meds, or Muslims right to build a Cultural Center, or
Same Sex Marriage.
No!Don't you understand?Any gun control anywhere is
a violation of the 2nd amendment. If I want to open carry a bazooka, tank, or
atomic bomb, I should!The only way to make the USA safer is for
everyone to open carry an atomic bomb. More guns and any regulation is
Anyone else remember the conservative radio commentator who complained that
victims of Sandy Hook demanding greater gun control like background checks were
making him a victim? Stephen Colbert played it on his show.I saw the
radical nature of some of these 2nd amendment nutcakes. And for them, any
regulation is a violation of their rights.The thing that frustrates
me the most is they act like they're the only ones who love America. In
reality, many of us love America and support the 2nd amendment. People like this
letter writer, who propose sensible common sense ideas.Be prepared
to be blasted today. Any time you touch this topic the nutcakes seem to come out
swinging. This letter will have 30+ posts in about 2 hrs. With comparisons of
Stalin and Hitler, blaming Obama, and countless citations of the Constitution.
With a little research it's easy to see how far afield the right is today
about guns. Not only is the second amendment not about the right to
carry a gun for recreation and self protection (that was an assumed right in the
1700's) but the colonies had gun control laws. They were told where they
could store their guns, how much powder they could have and where it could be
stored, along with how many metal balls they could have. If we
actually went back to the times you could in fact have a gun for hunting and
self protection but there would be restrictions about who could own a gun and
what kind of a gun could be owned. so who's the originalists
here, the right or those who want reasonable gun laws.
Remember when 90+ percent of voters wanted greater gun control?Then
activist repubs in the senate killed it? Remember?I thought we were
a country ruled by the majority? Why is it that we should be ruled
by the majority when it comes to marriage, politicians and judges have no
say?But then we should be ruled by activist politicians and judges when it
comes to guns, the majority has no say?Anyone know?
Guns don't kill people, bullets flying out of guns kill people.Cigarettes don't kill people, cancer kills people.
@Patricia MedinaTell me your proposal, and I'll tell you if I
can support it.
@ NateDid you even read her letter?"It’s time
to ensure that our federal laws apply to all domestic abusers, making it more
difficult for these violent individuals to get guns and do more harm. Expanding
background checks on commercial gun sales and closing loopholes in existing
domestic violence laws will protect people in society."Had you
actually read her letter you would know what her proposal is. This
seems pretty sensible to me. Now the question is, do you support it? A simple
yes or no will suffice. But if you do say no, I want to read your logic.
Even though I support the 2nd ammendment, I think we need some sensible
restrictions on access to guns.Unfortunately, the subject of
"gun control" is as volatile as "abortion rights". Advocates for
both issues refuse to give an inch to the most common sense restrictions. They
see any regulation as the "camel's nose in the tent" where the
other side will continue to push until it gets its way.I find it
funny that so many people who mock the NRA for its hard line stance on gun
rights don't see any hypocracy when they refuse to even consider laws that
restrict late-term or partial birth abortions.
Re: "We must take action and demand change."Must be a proud
graduate of community organizer college. Maybe a classmate of Obama.Just for the record, there is no such thing as a common sense gun-control
measure. Every single so-called common sense proposal risks both abuse by
doctrinaire, true believing disarmists, as well as cynically and illegally
disarming a law-abiding citizen at his/her most critical moment of need.And for what? Nothing, really. It's an acknowledged, unyielding
fact -- there simply is no way to keep guns out of the hands of a determined,
evil person, regardless of their mental state.It's hard for
liberals to admit, but the truth is, laws only deter the law-abiding. They have,
not the slightest effect on lawbreakers or the deranged.
Re: "The thing that frustrates me the most is they act like they're the
only ones who love America."I'm sure the truth about
feckless, reckless gun control laws is frustrating to those who don't love
America, but want to act like they do, as part of their leftist schtick to
disarm and control America and Americans.Make no mistake -- the
poorly concealed gun control agenda is control. Over America and Americans. Pure
"Must be a proud graduate of community organizer college. Maybe a classmate
of Obama."I'll never understand this. Many right wingers
use cheap shots like these at Obama. Yet, if he's merely a community
organizer, why then has he soundly defeated every single republican opponent
he's faced? McCain and Romney were destroyed in their elections by a mere
community organizer.How sad is that?"Just for the
record, there is no such thing as a common sense gun-control measure. Every
single so-called common sense proposal risks both abuse by doctrinaire, true
believing disarmists, as well as cynically and illegally disarming a law-abiding
citizen at his/her most critical moment of need."And this is why
the right wing should just be ignored. Let's move along with
sensible reforms and let common sense prevail. To the right, any gun control is
somehow unconstitutional. I'm sorry, but your views are not
supported by the majority. Land aren't we supposed to be ruled by the
majority? That's what folks like you claim when it comes to marriage. Why
can't it apply to guns?
"Just for the record, there is no such thing as a common sense gun-control
measure."Not if you take them to unreasonable and illogical
conclusions.I can list MANY "common sense gun-control
measures"Illegal to carry a gun on a commercial AirplaneIllegal to be intoxicated in a public place with a gunIllegal for a
minor to possess a gun in a public placeThese are certainly "gun
control measures". Which are not common sense?
Newsflash to Mountainman..."Bank robbery laws will not stop bank
robbers from robbing banks. Therefore, why have such laws?" This is about as
good as your argument gets.Laws that automatically deprive domestic
abusers of their weapons will at least send a message and at best save some
lives. Let's do it.
Gun crazy encourages gun crazies.
@MountanmanHayden, IDNews flash to liberals: In Switzerland it is
required by law for every citizen to own a gun and they have the lowest crime
rate in the world! Proving crime is not caused by guns but is a cultural
problem...7:10 a.m. July 21, 2014========= Mountanman,
1. Switzerland is a Socialist Country.2. Switzerland has a
100% military obligation.3, The Swiss – therefore – have a
100% mandatory background check.4. After their initial enlistment, the
Swiss remain life-long "MILITIA" members [you know -- that silly ignored
part of the 2nd amendment YOUR type conveniently always ignores], and keep their
State issued weapons -- with NO ammo.5. Weapons are heavily regulated --
permits and licenses are required.6. Switzerland BANS weapons to its
criminals and lunatics.7. Agreed about the cultural statement --
Switzerland [and Japan for that matter] have lower crime rates because they have
a better Civil and Social Society with higher standards of living, not because
they have more guns.8. Your fantasy land of make-believe is Somalia,
Go live there.
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