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Published: Monday, July 21 2014 12:00 a.m. MDT

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ordinaryfolks
seattle, WA

Boy, oh boy. The 2nd Amendment fanatics are going to really go nuts with these comments.

I wonder just how much gun violence it will take for the rest of the country to tell the far, far, far right gun lovers to quiet down and accept some common sense restrictions to the unfettered death machines they so love to acquire and protect.

Of course, these means that the vast majority must take a stand, which is certainly doubtful. The NRA has convinced us they are solely responsible for our freedoms.

E Sam
Provo, UT

Hooray! Yes! But watch this space. Sensible letters like this one, on this topic, tend to bring out the worst in people.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

News flash to liberals: Criminals will not obey any of your worthless gun laws and they never will! More gun laws are about as effective in fighting crime as passing ever more laws against murder or stealing or buying and selling drugs! Some people will do it no matter what your laws say or how many laws you pass! In Switzerland it is required by law for every citizen to own a gun and they have the lowest crime rate in the world! Proving crime is not caused by guns but is a cultural problem caused in the most part by broken homes.

JoeBlow
Far East USA, SC

Patricia,

The problem is that we have basically 2 camps when it comes to guns.
You are typical of one type. (i.e reasonable, sensible, logical restrictions)

The other type will counter with the notion that when the 2nd Amendment states "shall not be infringed", this means that Anyone can carry Any Weapon, Anywhere.

This will be the type that will blast your post.

Open Minded Mormon
Everett, 00

2nd amendment, gun nuts?
Common Sense?
Ha!

They will accept the deaths of Sandy Hook, Aurora CO movies, and Viginia Tech maaacres --
and thousands of others -- all in the name of "Constitutional" purity...

-- while thinking nothing of banning the use of certain cough syrups, allegy meds, or
Muslims right to build a Cultural Center, or Same Sex Marriage.

The Real Maverick
Orem, UT

No!

Don't you understand?

Any gun control anywhere is a violation of the 2nd amendment. If I want to open carry a bazooka, tank, or atomic bomb, I should!

The only way to make the USA safer is for everyone to open carry an atomic bomb. More guns and any regulation is communism.

FreedomFighter41
Provo, UT

Anyone else remember the conservative radio commentator who complained that victims of Sandy Hook demanding greater gun control like background checks were making him a victim? Stephen Colbert played it on his show.

I saw the radical nature of some of these 2nd amendment nutcakes. And for them, any regulation is a violation of their rights.

The thing that frustrates me the most is they act like they're the only ones who love America. In reality, many of us love America and support the 2nd amendment. People like this letter writer, who propose sensible common sense ideas.

Be prepared to be blasted today. Any time you touch this topic the nutcakes seem to come out swinging. This letter will have 30+ posts in about 2 hrs. With comparisons of Stalin and Hitler, blaming Obama, and countless citations of the Constitution.

pragmatistferlife
salt lake city, utah

With a little research it's easy to see how far afield the right is today about guns.

Not only is the second amendment not about the right to carry a gun for recreation and self protection (that was an assumed right in the 1700's) but the colonies had gun control laws. They were told where they could store their guns, how much powder they could have and where it could be stored, along with how many metal balls they could have.

If we actually went back to the times you could in fact have a gun for hunting and self protection but there would be restrictions about who could own a gun and what kind of a gun could be owned.

so who's the originalists here, the right or those who want reasonable gun laws.

Atlas Smashed
Santa Monica, CA

Remember when 90+ percent of voters wanted greater gun control?

Then activist repubs in the senate killed it? Remember?

I thought we were a country ruled by the majority?

Why is it that we should be ruled by the majority when it comes to marriage, politicians and judges have no say?
But then we should be ruled by activist politicians and judges when it comes to guns, the majority has no say?

Anyone know?

Roland Kayser
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Guns don't kill people, bullets flying out of guns kill people.

Cigarettes don't kill people, cancer kills people.

Nate
Pleasant Grove, UT

@Patricia Medina

Tell me your proposal, and I'll tell you if I can support it.

Atlas Smashed
Santa Monica, CA

@ Nate

Did you even read her letter?

"It’s time to ensure that our federal laws apply to all domestic abusers, making it more difficult for these violent individuals to get guns and do more harm. Expanding background checks on commercial gun sales and closing loopholes in existing domestic violence laws will protect people in society."

Had you actually read her letter you would know what her proposal is.

This seems pretty sensible to me. Now the question is, do you support it? A simple yes or no will suffice. But if you do say no, I want to read your logic.

JoeCapitalist2
Orem, UT

Even though I support the 2nd ammendment, I think we need some sensible restrictions on access to guns.

Unfortunately, the subject of "gun control" is as volatile as "abortion rights". Advocates for both issues refuse to give an inch to the most common sense restrictions. They see any regulation as the "camel's nose in the tent" where the other side will continue to push until it gets its way.

I find it funny that so many people who mock the NRA for its hard line stance on gun rights don't see any hypocracy when they refuse to even consider laws that restrict late-term or partial birth abortions.

procuradorfiscal
Tooele, UT

Re: "We must take action and demand change."

Must be a proud graduate of community organizer college. Maybe a classmate of Obama.

Just for the record, there is no such thing as a common sense gun-control measure. Every single so-called common sense proposal risks both abuse by doctrinaire, true believing disarmists, as well as cynically and illegally disarming a law-abiding citizen at his/her most critical moment of need.

And for what? Nothing, really. It's an acknowledged, unyielding fact -- there simply is no way to keep guns out of the hands of a determined, evil person, regardless of their mental state.

It's hard for liberals to admit, but the truth is, laws only deter the law-abiding. They have, not the slightest effect on lawbreakers or the deranged.

procuradorfiscal
Tooele, UT

Re: "The thing that frustrates me the most is they act like they're the only ones who love America."

I'm sure the truth about feckless, reckless gun control laws is frustrating to those who don't love America, but want to act like they do, as part of their leftist schtick to disarm and control America and Americans.

Make no mistake -- the poorly concealed gun control agenda is control. Over America and Americans. Pure and simple.

Atlas Smashed
Santa Monica, CA

"Must be a proud graduate of community organizer college. Maybe a classmate of Obama."

I'll never understand this. Many right wingers use cheap shots like these at Obama. Yet, if he's merely a community organizer, why then has he soundly defeated every single republican opponent he's faced? McCain and Romney were destroyed in their elections by a mere community organizer.

How sad is that?

"Just for the record, there is no such thing as a common sense gun-control measure. Every single so-called common sense proposal risks both abuse by doctrinaire, true believing disarmists, as well as cynically and illegally disarming a law-abiding citizen at his/her most critical moment of need."

And this is why the right wing should just be ignored.

Let's move along with sensible reforms and let common sense prevail. To the right, any gun control is somehow unconstitutional.

I'm sorry, but your views are not supported by the majority. Land aren't we supposed to be ruled by the majority? That's what folks like you claim when it comes to marriage. Why can't it apply to guns?

JoeBlow
Far East USA, SC

"Just for the record, there is no such thing as a common sense gun-control measure."

Not if you take them to unreasonable and illogical conclusions.

I can list MANY "common sense gun-control measures"

Illegal to carry a gun on a commercial Airplane
Illegal to be intoxicated in a public place with a gun
Illegal for a minor to possess a gun in a public place

These are certainly "gun control measures". Which are not common sense?

Irony Guy
Bountiful, Utah

Newsflash to Mountainman...
"Bank robbery laws will not stop bank robbers from robbing banks. Therefore, why have such laws?" This is about as good as your argument gets.
Laws that automatically deprive domestic abusers of their weapons will at least send a message and at best save some lives. Let's do it.

one vote
Salt Lake City, UT

Gun crazy encourages gun crazies.

airnaut
Everett, 00

@Mountanman
Hayden, ID
News flash to liberals: In Switzerland it is required by law for every citizen to own a gun and they have the lowest crime rate in the world! Proving crime is not caused by guns but is a cultural problem...
7:10 a.m. July 21, 2014
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Mountanman,

1. Switzerland is a Socialist Country.
2. Switzerland has a 100% military obligation.
3, The Swiss – therefore – have a 100% mandatory background check.
4. After their initial enlistment, the Swiss remain life-long "MILITIA" members [you know -- that silly ignored part of the 2nd amendment YOUR type conveniently always ignores], and keep their State issued weapons -- with NO ammo.
5. Weapons are heavily regulated -- permits and licenses are required.
6. Switzerland BANS weapons to its criminals and lunatics.
7. Agreed about the cultural statement -- Switzerland [and Japan for that matter] have lower crime rates because they have a better Civil and Social Society with higher standards of living, not because they have more guns.

8. Your fantasy land of make-believe is Somalia, Go live there.

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