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Published: Sunday, July 20 2014 10:40 p.m. MDT

Updated: Monday, July 21 2014 6:29 a.m. MDT

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BigCougar
Bountiful, UT

@utewhatever
"A pathetic attempt by Bronco at BYU's "media day" to state his case for inclusion"

"If BYU fans are completely honest, they are jealous that Utah has a table and they don't."

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Bronco just borrowed from the Whitt playbook on that one (Google it). Whitt and Dr Hill did that for years before the timing was right and the solar systems, stars and planets all aligned. Begging publicly didn't hurt utah's chances any, they still had to wait for Texas and half of the Big 12 to decide what they wanted to do before an invite finally came their way.

As for being supposedly jealous about not having a table at the Pac12 media day you couldn't be further from the truth there. I've never attended, listened to, watched or followed on-line a Pac12 media day before. I barely paid attention to MWC or WAC media days when BYU was in those conferences because they're all pretty dull and regurgitating the same stuff I'd read for months and months.

It just doesn't light the lamp and I usually spend this time of year fishing in Alaska instead.

BigCougar
Bountiful, UT

@ecute
"Spin it any way you want. To the students, season ticket holders and fans that don't travel... It's 2 for 1"

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That's funny, for the very same reasons you've listed it also qualifies as a 2 for 1 for the AZ students that fall into that same category. So, spin it any way you want it comes up the same, you have blue envy and apparently, judging by hyper-focus on BYU by so many ute fans, it's contagious.

Schnee
Salt Lake City, UT

@BigCougar
"If Utah had a football game at a neutral site which happened to be in Provo would you expect all of Utah Valley to come out to root for Utah?!"

I would expect the salt lake valley fans to commute better than the hypothetical more distant opponent's fans and I would expect that Provo would still have more Utah alumni than it would Ohio State alumni (or whatever the hypothetical school is).

Two For Flinching
Salt Lake City, UT

@ BigCougar

Utah NEVER publicly begged to get into the PAC-12. We didn't have to.

Also, having a nationwide religion is not the same as having a nationwide fan base.

eric2002x
Miami, FL

For the uninitiated Ute fans, that Phoenix game is neutral site because of several factors, including allocation of tickets, revenue splits and TV rights. And, since it is a higher-capacity NFL stadium, offers more revenue streams overall to both teams. Win-Win.

The fact it occurs inside the state of Arizona has no bearing. Texas-Oklahoma is played every single year in Dallas, TEXAS and is considered a neutral site even though Oklahoma fans have to travel a little further to a different state. Game tickets are allocated basically 50/50. Exactly the same happens to the annual Florida - Georgia game played every year in Jacksonville, FLORIDA. Yes, Georgia fans have to travel a little further, it is a neutral site game.

BYU has been invited many times to Pigskin Classic, Kickoff Classic, Cowboys Classic games on neutral sites in the South and East due to its ability to draw fans into the stadium, generate good TV audiences, and high quality football. (Also scheduled at FedEx Field vs. West Virginia in 2016). I remember big upsets like #3 Oklahoma in 2009. Has Utah ever been invited to a National Kickoff game like these? I don't think so...

Uteology
East Salt Lake City, Utah

@eric2002x

BYU has been invited many times to Pigskin Classic, Kickoff Classic, Cowboys Classic games on neutral sites in the South and East due to its ability to draw fans into the stadium, generate good TV audiences, and high quality football. (Also scheduled at FedEx Field vs. West Virginia in 2016). I remember big upsets like #3 Oklahoma in 2009. Has Utah ever been invited to a National Kickoff game like these? I don't think so...

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BYU is high quality football? Not according to the SEC and ACC.

As of today, BYU just doesn't bring enough to be invited to a P5 league.

As of today, BYU just isn't good enough earn a major bowl invite.

LadyMoon
Crestucky, FL

The ONLY way to debunk the'Conference cold shoulder' and the lack of Power 5 consideration is simple for BYU: WIN WIN WIN!!

DuckInSLC
Sandy, UT

Uteology: "BYU is high quality football? Not according to the SEC and ACC. As of today, BYU just doesn't bring enough to be invited to a P5 league. As of today, BYU just isn't good enough earn a major bowl invite."

First off, I had to change my name from DuckOuttaWater to just DuckInSLC...seemed a lot easier I guess.

Second, don't be so hard on BYU. They do bring a crowd and fill the stands and it isn't an accident they have been invited to season inaugural classics as Eric mentioned. The reasons for exclusion that you listed above are for other things, specifically not playing on Sundays, and other "baggage" they bring with them (including a rep for being difficult). It certainly has nothing to do with quality or fan base.

You also didn't answer his question. I truly don't know, but has Utah been invited to these games?

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