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Published: Sunday, July 20 2014 12:00 a.m. MDT

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Shaun
Sandy, UT

The same could of been said about Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, Carter, etc.

E Sam
Provo, UT

Plus, I've gained ten pounds since he became President, and our cat also died. Darn that Obama! To be serious for a second, though, what you really mean is, this is a President who supports policies you disagree with. That's it. That's all.

embarrassed Utahn!
Salt Lake City, UT

This "letter" misses the mark.
This is a poorly written piece that doesn't reference anything in the spot-on and well-written article by Richard Davis.
This letter reminds me of the spoiled child who covers his ears and protests "na, na, na, na...I can't hear you!"

President Obama won the National election twice, very convincingly, but that is completely overlooked by people who just can't accept the basic rules by which we all play. Self-righteousness is a character flaw and is also frowned upon by religious leadership.

From what I see and hear, Patriotism is not a Utah thing and (R)-Mike Lee's assertion that Utahns have an "extra gene" of patriotism is demonstrably false by the support shown for OUR President. In my opinion, many Utahns have an "extra gene" of self righteousness and then another extra gene of "poor sportsmanship"

P.S. I am extremely proud of our President! Our Nation will continue to recover from the disasters created from the previous administration when Barack Obama hands over the reigns to the next president (who will also be a Democrat.)

LOU Montana
Pueblo, CO

Short but interesting thought but not very original. During the Bush years the moral fiber of America deteriorated. After the false tragedy 911 Bush leans over the podium and tells America to go shopping and shopping they did go! Bigger homes and bigger cars and bigger life style. It was like a scene cut right from Roman history. Everyone was busy shopping and buying that our constitution was molested, Homeland Security Act and PATRIOT Act was passed without notice. When it all came crashing down who gave Wall Street (the greediest of the greedy)a bail out? The porn industry grew so much during the Bush years that they even asked for Government assistance for their failing industry. Two wars and Bush never attended one funeral, crashing economy and illegal aliens flooding our country with cheap labor and then the party was over and Bush was gone. Clean up the mess Obama and take the blame for the sickest era in American history.

You see Joseph Conrad your letter does not mean anything to those of us who tried to stop the horrors as our country fell during the Bush years.

ordinaryfolks
seattle, WA

I thought the same things when Bush the second was President, and the country survived.

I appreciate the fear and loathing you have of Obama, however misplaced. However, the country will survive and indeed has flourished for a great many.

Don't worry so much, in a couple of years you will have a chance to elect a new President. In the meantime, try a little thought reflection. I found it most useful during the Bush years, and most especially at the end of his term when the economic world fell apart.

pragmatistferlife
salt lake city, utah

Couldn't disagree more.

His foreign policy has proved to be enormously effective..unless you are looking for a bully and more war.

His spending stopped a depression and he has now cut deficit spending by three quarters. The annual deficit will be less than it was a year before he took office.

The scandals and cover ups...all faux scandals. Nothing covered up in Benghazi, nothing covered up with IRS. Nothing to fast and furious. Republicans have investigated them until the microphones are worn out and nothing...nothing.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

I recently took my family to see the Dinesh D'Souza movie "America". Most compelling for me was something Abraham Lincoln said on the back of a train as he left Springfield, Illinois for Washington DC on Jan 27, 1838 to be our President and occupy the White House, He was overwhelmed with the task before him of a much devided nation. "If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide." A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within. Do yourself a favor and go see the movie! You will learn much!

george of the jungle
goshen, UT

I wonder how many people don't complain com paired to the people who do. I wouldn't complain, I simply don't buy it again. So how exactly do we get these guys a second time.

airnaut
Everett, 00

@Mountanman
Hayden, ID

You know -- Abraham Lincoln was a Progressive Liberal - Don't you?

BTW-- Pres.Obama is facing a similar divided America that Lincoln did.
Liberal vs. Conservative...same, same.

The Real Maverick
Orem, UT

@ MM

Dinesh D'Souza is the right's Michael Moore. Watch his stuff to be entertained, not informed.

So what's the solution?

The right has made it no secret that they hate Obama. So one would think that if Obama really was the train wreck he's accused of being, that the right would have no problem finding a candidate that could beat him.

So why has it been impossible to beat him? Why is the right looking at 16+ years of straight democrat rule?

Is it because people just don't understand the right's awesomeness?

Is it because McCain, Palin, Romney, and now Bush are just so awesome?

Utefan60
Salt Lake City, UT

Again the DN publishes a letter without any basis. This behavior is not worthy of good members of my Church. I am glad that the DN published the original letter by Richard Davis. That letter was the talk around town because it was so shocking to see the DN actually print something well written and not belittling. Mr. Davis had a well reasoned letter. This was done by an honest educated man about the state of our support for our duly elected President.

The Real Maverick
Orem, UT

Does the right want more cheese with its whine today?

All I get out of this letter is more sour grapes about Romney losing. Too bad so sad.

Actually provide a candidate next time. The right hasn't come close to winning an election in quite some time!

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

The "progressive liberals" of Lincoln's time were nothing like the progressive liberals of today. Lincoln was not a liar. Obama doesn't know the meaning of the word, "truth". Lincoln had integrity. Obama measures integrity by how many votes it would bring - you can keep your insurance - you can keep your doctor - it will save each family $2,500 a year - I'll cut the deficit in half. Lincoln tried to bind up the wounds and reunite a divided nation. Obama pits white against black, poor against rich, lazy against those who work. Lincoln would have recoiled against people calling for same sex marriage. Obama is their champion. Lincoln would have protected the unborn. Obama wants even those babies who survive a partial birth abortion to receive no medical help. Lincoln did everything he could to help the vets. Obama puts them on a two-year waiting list.

Obama is no Lincoln. Lincoln would have had no use for Obama.

liberal larry
salt lake City, utah

I can't think of one major economic or social statistic, from the national murder rate, to the yearly budget deficit, that hasn't improved under President Obama.

The only thing that is seems to have declined is the civility, and credibility of the "loyal" opposition.

Lightbearer
Brigham City, UT

Re: "Most compelling for me was something Abraham Lincoln said on the back of a train as he left Springfield, Illinois for Washington DC on Jan 27, 1838 to be our President and occupy the White House."

So Lincoln left for Washington to be president and occupy the White House 22 years before he was elected (in 1860)?

He wasn't even elected to Congress till 1846.

Re: "Do yourself a favor and go see the movie!"

Or read the review at "Forbes" (Conservapedia lists "Forbes" as a conservative magazine). To quote just one line: "All of this would be scary if D'Souza's documentary were at all grounded in reality."

Re: "You will learn much!"

But in light of the 20-some-odd-year mistake on Lincoln's departure for Washington to become president, how much of it will be true?

one old man
Ogden, UT

Was this letter delayed in the mail for something like seven years?

UtahBlueDevil
Durham, NC

"We have weak foreign and domestic policies, extremely excessive spending, lying, cover-ups and scandals, disregard for the Constitution and a deterioration of our moral fiber"

And yet Christ still managed to set the example of how a Christian should act in circumstance far worse than anything imagined by today's self persecuted and victimized crowd. All I hear is incessant moaning and nashing of teeth because of the unbearable conditions we live in today.... and it makes one wonder what our own forefathers would say to our protestations, when they endured far greater hardships, and violations of their rights and liberties.

We live in a day of far greater freedoms than in any other time in history.... and we as a people act with contempt and selfishness. A true reading and understanding of history would help many understand the many blessing and freedoms they enjoy that few before them ever imagined possible.

Hutterite
American Fork, UT

I could enumerate a number of reasons why people around here vote the way they do, and don't like the President. They wouldn't get published here, no matter how close to the truth.

RBB
Sandy, UT

Wow, I am amazed that anyone could think Pres. Obama's foreign policy is a success. The US has alienated most of our allies. The militant wing of Islam is spending faster than ever. China is bullying its neighbors. We renigged on an agreement with Poland to base defensive missles there. Russia annexes a large chunk of Ukraine and Obama cannot even convince the European countries to enact any meaningful sanctions. Even Europeans who did not like Bush acknowledge that at least Bush would do what he said he would do. The US credibility has sunk to new lows. If your goal for foreign policy is to neuter the U.S., yep quite a success.

This is an administration that has run in campaign mode for 6 years and now has no clue how to govern.

RedShirt
USS Enterprise, UT

To those that say that Bush was so much worse than Obama, how was he worse? The only way that Bush was better was because the magnitude of his programs was less than Obama's. They both are doing the EXACT same things. Bush and Obama are Progressives that think government can make things better. If you think that Bush was so much worse than Obama, how are they different besides race and political party? Bush and Obama are the same.

To "airnaut" actually, Lincoln was a conservative libertarian. A Progressive Liberal would have spent massive amounts of money on failed programs to free the slaves, and then wouldn't be able to figure out why there was still slavery after spending all that money.

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