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Published: Saturday, July 19 2014 2:54 p.m. MDT

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Say No to BO
Mapleton, UT

On July 7th, the Federal Government issued an intelligence report analyzing the influx of illegal alien children appearing at the southern border of the United States. They collected data in May and June in preparation for the report entitled, Misperceptions of U. S. Policy Key Driver in Central American Migrant Surge.
A survey of these migrants in late May revealed that 219 out of the 230 surveyed (that's 95%) came here because they had been told by the media that they would be given permisos simply by showing up at the border. Further, they were advised that immigration enforcement in the United States was so lax that the odds of being deported were NIL.
This intelligence reports disagrees with this DN atrticle:
"EPIC assesses homicide trends and migrant interviews suggest violence is likely not the principal factor driving the increase in UAC migration. While CBP data from early fiscal year 2011 indicates a steady increase in OTM and UAC migration, United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC) statistics— within this same timeframe— show a decline in per capita homicide rates in these three countries; El Salvador saw the sharpest decline, followed by Honduras and Guatemala, respectively."

Sore loser
tampa, fl

The US government should have been more proactive in helping the countries that are causing the problem with their crime and violence situations. Other than that, if these kids were potential GOP voters one day, The WH wouldn't let them get past the Guatemala Mexico border

BYUalum
South Jordan, UT

I am sure there are some unaccompanied children. However, most of the pictures I saw were of MOTHERS and children, plus a lot of teenage boys and men. There should be some sorting out and "redistribution" back to their homeland.

BUILD THE FENCE! If Obama won't do it, then the southern states need to do it NOW! Stop the flow. When these people know they can't get through, they will stay in their homeland. We can't take in everyone in the world who wants to come here.

There are many people from the Middle East now slipping across the border. We must build the fence! Our own safety (not just theirs) depends on it!

Fitness Freak
Salt Lake City, UT

How do we tell if they're "minor" children - or just taught to lie by the coyotes that brought them? What i.d. do they have that PROVES their minors?

I've seen pictures of the "refugees" most of them don't look like minors to me.

Also, there are literally MILLIONS (possibly billions) of "refugees" in other countries that would like to take advantage of our "free stuff" - why can't they come?

Icarus
Dallas, Texas

This is a bunch of baloney. If they were just trying to survive why do they come so far north? And wny don't we hear about the great number of children fleeing to Columbia, Argentina, etc. If this was a refugee problem it would affect the entire region, not just the southern US boarder.

DN Subscriber
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Failure to secure our border and prevent illegal trespassing across the border is the root problem for Americans.

We cannot fix our own problems, and have no responsibility, legal or moral to fix the problems of violence or poverty or whatever in every other country on earth. (Although, we do quite a bit of that voluntarily anyway.)

It is our own fault if we have passed laws (or edicts have been issued by Obama) that allow anyone who shows up to parrot a few magic words and win asylum. We all know that any citations and scheduling of hearings in the future is a total joke and that 95% of those admitted pending review of their cases will never be seen again. This effectively reduces the U.S. border, sovereignty and purported "rule of law" to a laughable fantasy but confirmation that the United States is a weakened nation that is collapsing from within.

We simply must secure the border and prevent anyone from crossing illegally. Not babysit them afterwards, but physically prevent them from touching our soil.

Legal immigration is good, illegal immigration is intolerable. You cannot support both.

one old man
Ogden, UT

"BUILD THE FENCE! If Obama won't do it, then the southern states need to do it NOW! "

Yes, let's build the fence.

But let's place the blame for failure to build it where it belongs.

That is not on Obama.

Where?

Congress.

Congress has repeatedly failed -- refused in fact -- to FUND the fence.

Remember, it is Congress that controls the purse strings. Not the President.

But it sure is handy to have him around to blame when nothing happens due to lack of funding.

MapleDon
Springville, UT

Finally gave up posting comments? Too many people disagreed with you? That's a liberal for you. You only tolerate views like yours. And it proves you're on the side of the minority on this issue. 60% of the public wants these kids sent back.

Shut the borders, fine businesses that hire illegals, ship these kids back, and under no circumstance grant amnesty to someone who entered this country illegally. The current law doesn't need to be reformed. It needs to be enforced.

And any call for compassion can easily be traced to the Democratic Party, businesses that employ illegals, or churches after new congregants.

Swiss
Price, Utah

When the South Side of Chicago is pacified by the Catholic Church or the Rahm Immanuel's Administration, and only then will I have compassion for the adolescents attacking our southern border in human waves.
Thirty of them relocated to Oklahoma are from India according to their governor. Now HHS has doubled the number from 300 to 600 and wont let the her people visit anymore. She is worried that they will be held there longer than the 120 days she was told that they would take up the army base facilities.
It looks like Oklahoma will be a dumping ground state because the have a Female Republican Governor while Louisiana and Arkansas will not.
No politics involved here.

Alfred
Phoenix, AZ

@Say No to BO:
"This intelligence reports disagrees with this DN article..."

Surprised the DN allowed the report to be printed.

A recent report by a State Immigration Service Working Group shows most illegals say they're from the Central American countries but are really from Mexico. They're reportedly instructed to say this by the coyotes who know deportation will be likely cancelled for illegals from Mexico.

@BYUalum:
"BUILD THE FENCE!"

Impossible to build along the Rio Grande River border. Where would it be built? Down the center of the river? Tough job. Can't be built on the Mexican side. That belongs to Mexico and likely would not be permitted. Can't build it on the American side which would limit Americans' access to the water and to thousands of acres in the oxbows of the winding river channel.

@one old man:
"Remember, it is Congress that controls the purse strings. Not the President. "

But remember, Obama tells us he has a phone and a pen.

@MapleDon:
"...and under no circumstance grant amnesty to someone who entered this country illegally."

I would say that anyone who enters illegally would never get citizenship, period.

Herbert Gravy
Salinas, CA

American taxpayers continue to be duped by their own federal government. How much of this nonsense are we willing to take? Apparently, a lot. We get what we vote for!

mcclark
Salt Lake City, UT

MY MY That good old Christian love and compassion are really on display here.

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