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Published: Sunday, July 20 2014 8:05 a.m. MDT

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Danite
Salt Lake City, UT

As far as the tribe thing, I'm not at all surprised by this. "Members" see themselves in a harmonizing brotherhood and sisterhood with total strangers, all it takes for the comraderie is the sighting of their CTR ring or other indicators. This is one of our most powerful tools, we are connected with very diverse individuals by our common faith. To me, this is a small indicator of our Zion seeking theology. Let us continue to be united, and "have favorable views on other Mormons".

marxist
Salt Lake City, UT

But you'll note that in Utah at least Mormons very much dislike Democrats or anybody left leaning. Harry Reid is much despised by Utah Mormons.

Drewdove
Anaheim, CA

As a new Mormon (March 2014) I have nothing but love for my brothers & sisters. I tend to give my fellow Mormons the benefit of the doubt and it has paid off every time. I think it's this that will turn up the temp in time as more join us and join in on the fun.

gittalopctbi
Glendale, AZ

@marxist, Harry Reid is much despised by a lot of people, not just in Utah. :)

Gene Poole
SLC, UT

@marxist... I would venture to ask if there is a purpose to your baiting for controversy or are you sharing an opinion that is based upon a large section of interviews that you have personally obtained. Are Utah voters conservative? Based upon voting statistics: yes. Do they vote party line? Not necessarily. If a candidate of a party proves by previous actions that they will be of best service for the community, then they are elected - not by party line. Because they are - ready for it marxist - honorable! I'm left handed - on occasion - so, I guess I'm left leaning. ;) As for considerations for Harry Reid, it has nothing to do with his party affiliation or his membership in the LDS Church but his complete disdain for the First and Second Amendments to The Constitution of the United States and other indications of socialism, cronyism and nepotism that make him a tad bit despicable to some right leaning folks.

Don Bugg
Prince Frederick, MD

The problem with "marxist's" generalization is that many or most of the Democrats in Utah are Mormons.

U-tar
Woodland Hills, UT

Harry Ried is not well liked by Anyone that leans to the Right, not just Mormons.

bj-hp
Maryville, MO

Marxist: You will find that many Latter Day Saints as a whole dislike or distrust Harry Reid or anyone who is a self-proclaimed Democrat regardless where you are at anywhere in the Untied States. Harry Reid would be welcome to any LDS Church meeting in the United States but he would be highly criticized for his LIBERAL leanings. Don't just say Utah as it is nation wide.

Gary Kinney
Huntington Beach, CA

@marxist. Harry Reid is despised by many more than just Utah Mormons. The way he conducts himself and attacks others who do not think like him is despicable. His lying and underhanded dealings in government make me often wonder how he stays active in a Church which teaches the opposite of being truthful and honest in our dealings. IMO he is a very poor example of how we should act toward others. Definitely not the example I want of a good Letter-day Saint.

There You Go Again
Saint George, UT

Temperature readings by whom?

In not so polite conversation, there are some white new-comers to the Saint George area whose disdain for blacks and hispanics barely exceeds their disdain for Mormons.

So what?

"...All that proved about Mormons is that Americans don't feel much warmer or colder about them than they have for the past eight years...".

Some Americans do, some Americans don't.

Interpretation of poll driven data tends to be a function of the audience the interpretation is designed to please/impress/sway.

BTW,

"...political perspective...".

The temperature rating for Mormons is in the 40% level just above atheists and Muslims.

"...underlying reality...".

Maybe, maybe not.

Kings Court
Alpine, UT

Coming from outside Utah, I can testify that non-Utah Mormons don't have a high regard for Utah Mormons.

Schnee
Salt Lake City, UT

I'm surprised there wasn't a partisan gap in 2010 since that was after Prop 8 and considering it's amongst the most conservative churches (by which I mean greatest percentage of members say they're conservative) in the nation.

Bloodhound
Provo, UT

I'm LDS and don't care for these stories. Let's get over ourselves and stop worrying about whether or not people think we are "important," "good," etc. We make up a tiny, tiny fraction of the world's population and most people don't look to us for advice. They probably never will.

ThornBirds
St.George, UT

Many throughout the country will interpret Mormons needing some help in bringing that temp down to normal. Their temperature is in need of some generic medication in order to temper that high and mighty attitide to the level of the rest of the population.

bellsandbells
Columbia, MO

My fellow LDS are like me. When I am with many other groups, I am out of place…the odd ball. That is why “Mormons” like “Mormons” better. I have always lived where I am the only LDS in the crowd or there are only a few of us. Still, I feel more comfortable with my fellow LDS. When traveling or moving, I can go right into a church group and feel I am at home immediately. Or call for help if I am in a strange town. You are never alone when you have immediate family all over the world.

gmlewis
Houston, TX

Ultra-Extreme Liberals justify their positions by denying the existence of divine commandments through an over-emphasis on God's mercy. Ultra-Extreme Conservatives justify their positions by focusing on the divine commandments through an over-emphasis on God's justice.

Moderates fall somewhere in between, but the ultra-extremes dominate the conversation. Since Mormons have great faith in living by the Lord's standard, it is understandable that they tend to be predominately conservative. They need to resist the propensity to be ultra-extreme to the extent of forgetting God's mercy.

BYU Joe
MISSION VIEJO, CA

The idea that Reid is "despised" by Utah Mormons exhibits the frustration many have with us. The concept of disliking Reid is flawed - better put is "I don't like his politics" - big difference. I don't believe him to be a dishonorable man. I think he is a good man doing what he believes is right - even when he knows much of his tribe disagrees.

Some try to equate being a good Republican with being a good LDS with being a good American.

Fight the political battle but I have a small news flash - In the end politics do not win - theology does and it turns out its all okay - even if Barry occupies the White House instead of Mitt.

Its more about the woman at the well and the Sermon on the Mount than it is about whats happening in Rome. The Mormon Moment will come when we exhibit our love and kindness not our political might.

Having said that - I sure wish Reid would have lost that election - he bugs the snot out of me on a political level.

HaHaHaHa
Othello, WA

Your inept, high, or way out of touch, if you think Reid is only despised by Utah Mormons.

Wilf 55
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

And what about how Mormons are viewed internationally? There people like Harry Reid or Jim Dabakis have rendered an enormous service to the Church during the "Mormon Moment". They showed that not all Mormons were right-wing Christian extremists (as they are often presented). Also, the actions of "Mormon building bridges" were picked by international media and gave an excellent impression of Mormon diversity and love for our gay brothers and sisters.

However, since then, Utah's fight against same-sex marriage and the animosity toward dissenters have again plunged the Mormon image in the negative. The point here is not to argue about SSM or excommunications, but to understand what kind of news determines the image of the Church. If Church PR wants to improve that image worldwide, for the sake of missionary work, it does not seem we're on the right track.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

Gene Poole:

"Do [Mormons] vote party line? Not necessarily. If a candidate of a party proves by previous actions that they will be of best service for the community, then they are elected - not by party line."

Nope. Not true. Consider Utah's state attorney general election of 2012. The Democrats ran Weber County Attorney Dee Smith. Smith was a well-respected prosecutor with an impeccable record. The GOP ran John Swallow, whose OWN legal experience was little more than that of a political fixer and fundraiser. Swallow defeated Smith with 65% of the vote.

In the prior AG election (2000), the GOP's Mark Shurtleff defeated Democrat Reed Richards with 57% of the vote (to Reeds 40%). Richards' CV included serving as a Weber County attorney, and subsequent deputy AG under Jan Graham. Shurtleff had been, for a short time, a Salt Lake County commissioner with not a long résumé as an attorney.

And now Shurtleff and Swallow are under indictment for multiple felonies.

Clearly Smith and Richards were the better candidates, but they didn't fall under "party line" voting practices.

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