One can almost certainly feel the tremendous headache this situation is causing
for Shurtliff and Swallow.Ouch!
@ riverofsonDid you know that Shurtleff and his lil cohort protected
corrupt banks and companies in taking away peoples' homes? Did you know
that they protected loan sharks from just destroying peoples' lives? Could
you imagine telling your wife that you no longer could live in a home because of
the evil practices of the bank? Could you imagine the disappointment in telling
your child that there wouldn't be a Christmas because the loan shark
charged 600 percent interest?The headaches these two men have is
nothing compared to the countless headaches they gave to our fellow Americans.
Shurtleff and Igor must be punished. To me, the question isn't whether or
not they're guilty. But how long they should go to prison for.
I would keep the two of them separate and as far away from each other as
Not something you want to be facing at this stage in your life but all you have
to do is be honest and you won't have to worry.
Conviction or exoneration first. Then you can comment with some authority on
what it means.
@AtlasThat, in a nutshell is Exactly correct. It's all fun and games
until the tide turns.I can't stand the indignation with which
Shurtleff assailed those serving the warrant, and his very proper being taken to
jail..how he continues to say how stressful this is on HIS family.And to
look right at the camera, or the Doug Wright microphone and deny all charges....
What an embarrassment to their families and the republican party. I've been
a state delegate many times over the years. I lost all respect for Shurtleff
while AG when he demanded the state board of education implement plans for
vouchers even before the election to determine if we would go to a voucher
system was decided. He was trying to sway the election through this arrogant
attitude that he knew what was best. Swallow is cut out of the same mold. I
saw right through him at the state convention and put my support behind Reyes.
Too bad other delegates didn't have the same insight. They were too busy
listening to "Queen Gayle" and her eagle forum. And people think our
caucus system to so great?
My comment referred, specifically, to the photo of Shurtleff seen above.
they've destroyed lives...now lets hope they get whatever justice they
deserve...they both made a mockery of the legal system...a case of not
practicing what they preach...
appearing in court together?how about appearing in cell #7 together?
Hey Atlas Smashed -" Could you imagine the disappointment in
telling your child that there wouldn't be a Christmas because the loan
shark charged 600 percent interest?"Come on Atlas, Shurtleff was
just walking the Right Wing talk.And Right Wing Talk says that there
should be NO regulations that impede a capitalistic enterprise from
earning/extorting just as much money as it can.If it's what the
market will bear, than GO FOR IT.. . . I'm thinking that maybe
the state should offer are certain amount of immunity to Swallow for ratting out
his mentor, Shurtleff . . . or vice versa . . . Whatever works.But
we NEED to see a conviction here.
Shurtleff has already said he wished Mr. Swallow hadn't done some of the
things he did. They will stumble on top of each other. Shurtleff was a boss
over the county DA and has to feel some shame to be charged by the official
position in the County he supervised. As an attorney and Chief law enforcer in
the state, they both believed they could enforce laws unimpeded without
consequence as others supposedly did the things they did without a problem. So
many elected officials in all parties, jurisdictions, states, and nationally
over the years. Two years being investigated gave these two opportunities to
destroy, lose,cover their rabbit tracks since it is not DNA related. Electronic
devices such as those in the IRS should have information or backups on the
State's computer systems, not just the ones in their homes since they were
performing state duties.GRAMA information is guarded and not
destroyed,by public officials. They have ethical responsibility as attorneys in
the state of Utah.Mr.Swallow resigned after the House
investigation. Both should have resigned prior to quitting the state action
against Bank of America and Shurtleff hired by their Law Firm.
As I recall, both are being charged with one or more counts of conspiracy.
Co-conspirators are often tried together, so it's not unusal for them to
appear together for pre-trial matters.Either could move to have
their case severed (be tried separately), I'd think Shurtleff would be more
likely to do so. Swallow may prefer to be tried with Shurtleff at least as to
some of the counts as he can make the argument that he was merely following
Shurtleff's direction and didn't have any pecuniary motives.
They are innocent until proven guilty, not the other way around.