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Published: Friday, July 18 2014 8:15 a.m. MDT

Updated: Saturday, July 19 2014 9:47 p.m. MDT

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Ifel Of'a-sofa
Alpine, Utah

School / # of Players / # of Lists

utah / 3 / 7

byu / 10 / 19

USU / 7 / 15

I guess these lists don't take into account a power conference? LOL

Steven S Jarvis
Orem, UT

These lists are about players who are expected to do great things. USU and BYU are trending much higher than Utah is and a lot of it has to do with the competitiveness of the teams they field. Utah on the other hand has disappeared from the national radar with just the Stanford blip as its only sighting.

I would love to see both Hill and Williams pick up some hardware this year.

Stringer Bell
Henderson, NV

Re: Jarvis "I would love to see both Hill and Williams pick up some hardware this year."

What Hill needs to pick up is first downs with his arm, not his legs. Good luck with that one.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@stringer bell

And what utah needs to pick up is actual victories, not moral victories. Good luck with that one.

ArgoFY
Salt Lake City, Utah

@ Duckhunter:

And what byu needs is a real conference. I would say good luck with that one, but we all know that's not going to happen.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@argofy

And how is that "real conference" working out for utah? I just see loss after loss and losing bowless season after losing bowless season. lol

VegasUte
Las Vegas, NV

Steven S Jarvis:

"These lists are about players who are expected to do great things"

Utah players just do great things. Just look at the number of Utah players in the NFL compared to byU - 30 for Utah, 9 for byU. 17 for USU, BTW. Even little brother up north is putting Bronco and crew to shame.

The only players that will be picking up hardware from that list are Chucky and Dres.

Go Utes!!

Ute Fan In Utah County
Spanish Fork, UT

They take the previous season Stats into account, then they name who is on each preseason watch list @Steven S Jarvis. Which is a lot higher for BYU because they play weaker opponents week in and week out. Give BYU or Utah State a PAC 12 schedule and they would finish near the bottom also.

Cletus from Coalville
Coalville, UT

And what we need to pick up is a bowl game, not watching byu play on tv during the holidays instead. We will have good luck with that one for sure this year just you wait and see.

Go write it down!

KH
Holladay, UT

I guess head to head wins don't matter any more to byu fans. It's who is the team with the most pre-season nomination awards.

17-14 Hurts Don't It?
Springville, UT

Ifel

You nailed it!

USU TWICE as many players recognized as Utah!
BYU 3x as many players recognized as the Utes!

Poor Utes... a diminishing trend 4-5, 3-6, 2-5 since joining the PAC10. Bowl-less 2x. What's a Ute fan to say or do?

At least there are two teams to get excited about this year.

Go Aggies, Go BYU!

daver
Provo, 00

OK so here goes fan suicide, haha: As a lifelong Cougar fan, I will say that Taysom Hill has done nothing to show me he should be on any of those lists, other than maybe a hypothetical "Doak Walker Honorable Mention" watch list. Apparently, I'm not the only one to say he hasn't proven himself as a QB. RB? Maybe. QB? No.

For other opinions, I cite another website (Vanquish the Foe) title, "The Woeful State of BYU Passing."

An interesting cable show last night featured Cam Newton and Colin Kaepernick as only the 14th and 15th-best NFL QB's, respectively. Why? I paraphrase: because instinctive running QB's as a rule, never quite develop and fine-tune their accuracy.

I truly HOPE (cause the program's survival may depend on it) Taysom defies the odds and learns to master the pocket the way Steve (Young) did.

Jason R
Sandy, UT

I really feel bad for the utah offensive coordinators... they just don't have much talent to work with. I mean, 7 offensive coordinators in the last 7 years? Utes are the doormat of bottom feeders.

The Utes are 1-15 against the PAC 12 opponents with winning records. 1-15!!! Keep holding that SOS trophy as high as you can because its the only trophy you'll be holding for decades. Strength of schedule doesn't do anything if you have a win percentage of .0625 against those teams. Haha .0625.

worf
Mcallen, TX

Utes will be limping through another football year. Dres should have transferred to the Cougs or Aggies.

Weber may bowl before the utes do.

Snack PAC
Olympus Cove, Utah

KH

"I guess head to head wins don't matter any more to BYU fans."

LOL at your desperate attempt to deflect attention to head-to-head wins, when BYU doesn't even play Utah again until 2016?

"It's who is the team with the most pre-season nomination awards."

Here's a clue:

In order to win a post-season national individual award, it helps to be included on a pre-season national watch list.

Of course, this is a foreign concept to a program that's never won a national individual award of any kind.

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State of the two programs:

BYU wins and talks about their next bowl.

Utah loses and whines about BYU's schedule.

DuckOuttaWater
SLC , UT

C'mon Utah. It's embarrassing that a PAC12 program doesn't have at least as many athletes on these lists as non P5 teams. I don't have a horse in this race (though I'm LDS so I follow BYU a lot) but the Utes have gotta start keeping QBs healthy and getting more talent. Watching Utah play my Ducks last year for instance: Utah hung close for awhile but eventually talent and depth overwhelmed them. Utah has to get more talent, and these lists portray that.

Unlike some BYU fans want to pretend though, I along with many of my Duck fan friends like having Utah in the PAC12 and everything they bring. Given time they will be a good team and get the talent and depth they need. Oregon wasn't always a juggernaut either.

sammyg
Springville, UT

Why is our premier P5 Utes lagging behind?

I was under the impression that P5 teams have better recruits than 'other' teams, thus more would be on these lists.

Please explain this disparity.

Common-Tator
Saint Paul, MN

Best of luck to all 20 of these athletes. I hope they're all incredibly successful.

Snack PAC
Olympus Cove, Utah

Utah County Utes

"They take the previous season Stats into account, then they name who is on each preseason watch list @Steven S Jarvis. Which is a lot higher for BYU because they play weaker opponents week in and week out. Give BYU or Utah State a PAC 12 schedule and they would finish near the bottom also."

Just another whiny excuse from the crimson-glasses wearing crowd.

The Utes have never won a national individual award of any kind even when they were playing WAC and MWC schedules.

The fact that few Utes are good enough to be on a national watch list is simply a reflection of how mediocre your program is. It has nothing to do with how tough your schedule is.

CDM1525
West Point, UT

Let me get this straight. Utah are the bottom feeders of the Pac12. They pretty much own BYU and have beaten them 4 times in a row? What does that say about BYU?

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