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Both sides in same-sex marriage recognition case await word from Supreme Court

Published: Thursday, July 17 2014 8:25 p.m. MDT

Updated: Friday, July 18 2014 9:22 a.m. MDT

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Mike702
Hamilton, 00

If Sotomayor goes to the full court, and they decide not to grant a stay, will the Governor and AG get the hint?

SAS
Sandy, UT

@Mike702:

Of course not. You're forgetting the way we do logic in Utah. One starts with the conclusion, and works backward to the facts.

DN Subscriber
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Appropriately and properly, Utah and Utahns will obey the law. Even stupid, bad laws.

Hoping for the "wise Latina" (Obama's term, not mine) Justice to grant a stay is a nearly hopeless "Hail Mary Pass" attempt at this point.

Just because something is declared to be legal does not make it right or moral or good for society.

Remember, same sex marriage is just the first misstep down the slippery slope. How can anyone object to plural marriages, or marriages between adults and children, or people and their pets or farm animals. After all, every argument about same sex marriage "rights" applies equally to all those options. Just because something will eventually be declared to be legal does not make it right or moral or good for society.

This is just one small fault line (among many) in the decay and collapse of our country and indeed, western civilization.

one vote
Salt Lake City, UT

Will he be impeached?

poyman
Lincoln City, OR

So we get Sotomayer as an overseer of the 10th circuit??? Guess we got the short straw.

Hutterite
American Fork, UT

Shouldn't the state comply with the law "just because"?

Understands Math
Lacey, WA

@DN Subscriber wrote: "Remember, same sex marriage is just the first misstep down the slippery slope."

Just because the results are inevitable in your imagination does not make it so.

benny02
slc, ut

way go gov...."we will comply if justice sotomayor doesnt grant a stay' you wont have a choice...another reason why my gov is a huge embarrassment...

collegestudent25
Cedar City, UT

Why so many liberal commenters on a clearly conservative paper.

intervention
slc, UT

@dn subscriber

Do you know why your slippery slope argument has actually never been made in a court of law with relation to this issue?

EPDesign
Salt lake City, UT

So the state is going to survive after all.

firstamendment
Lehi, UT

Will I be forced to pay taxes to support it? What happens if I refuse to obey Monarch Shelby and his harmful opinions, and if I continue to support the Constitution and Government by the People, for the People, and of the People?

@ collegestudent25 they're propagandists, some are probably paid, they work in shifts, and are most active on Conservative papers (and have been called upon to first "destroy the Utah brand." They are the inheritors of the Wandervoegel tradition (read about that on defend the family). Those paying to promote the agenda probably get tax breaks. The IRS probably will never do anything about any of this, but if you donate money to protect children and marriage they will post your name on the internet, you will probably be fired from your job, and when the IRS is caught, they will probably use your tax dollars to pay their fine.....that's how America is under the regime.

Interloper
Portland, OR

The question over same-sex marriage iS settled. Accepting it in the states whose governments haven't is a matter of 'when," not 'if." Those states can face reality or continue to drag their feet. Either way, gay marriage in the U.S. will encompass more and more states. Ultimately all, one suspects.

firstamendment
Lehi, UT

Will I be forced to pay taxes to support it? What happens if I refuse to obey Monarch Shelby and his harmful opinions, and if I continue to support the Constitution and Government by the People, for the People, and of the People?

firstamendment
Lehi, UT

@ collegestudent25 they're propagandists, they work in shifts, and are most active on Conservative papers (and have been called upon to first "destroy the Utah brand." They are the following a certain tradition that is not new (read about that on defend the family). I don't know if those donating to promote the agenda get tax breaks? If they did the IRS probably will supports it. Speaking hypothetically (can't even tell some truths here anymore), if you donate money to protect children and marriage the IRS just might post your name on the internet (not saying this has been done, guess we can't say that), you just might be fired from your job ("")and if the IRS were caught only a few Conservative talk show people might have hypothetically reported on it and hypothetically discussed what might have happened if the IRS used your tax dollars to pay their fine.....that's how could become, if we were under liberal rule..... ;) hypothetically of course.

firstamendment
Lehi, UT

It would be wise for all of us to visit defend the family and read some of the articles there.
There are some good ones by Jewish authors etc. about what is going on in our Country, and how it has happened before.

Try searching for "Crafting Gay Children" or the "Wandervoegel" etc.

May all go well America, may God save us, and hopefully someone will be able to protect the First Amendment.

Shaun
Sandy, UT

@Dn subscriber. You do realize marriage is a legal contract? So a dog can not enter into a contract. Also I believe children are allowed to marry an adult with parent consent at the age of 14 in Utah. They might have changed that law. If so a minor can not legally enter into a contract.

Brightenpath
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Those who want to experiment with the marriage and the family should take a lesson from a highly intelligent group: the scientists, engineers, and management of NASA:

On the Space Shuttle Columbia's last flight, once control problems were observed, and loss of all hydraulic pressure was noted, pilot McCool tried to restart 2 of the 3 auxiliary power units "as they worked to attempt to restore orbiter control" at the very end (Columbia Crew Survival Investigation Report, page 1-20).

The Columbia astronauts never realized what had gone wrong; they ran out of time needed to troubleshoot the problem - as will we. It will be too late. We ignore the lessons of history, especially in the vital areas of marriage and family, at our own peril.

"As with the O-ring erosions that ultimately doomed the Challenger, NASA management became accustomed to these phenomena when no serious consequences resulted from these earlier episodes. This phenomenon was termed "normalization of deviance" by sociologist Diane Vaughan in her book on the Challenger launch decision process."

Well put, Diane.

cjb
Bountiful, UT

Questions for the governor.

Do you believe that obeying the law is more important than protecting Utah against the destruction of society and massive loss of life brought on by plagues of Biblical proportion.

Or do you not believe in the proclamation of the family?

Ranch
Here, UT

@DN Subscriber;

Bigotry & discrimination is legal; that doesn't make it right or good for society. I note the way you denigrate J. Sotomayor by putting quotes around your description. You made quite the attempt to diminish her; you failed. All you succeeded in doing is demonstrating your own biases.

Your "morals" (promotion of bigotry) isn't good for society; stop fighting against what is right and good, equality.

@collegestudent25;

Do you want to live in an echo chamber?

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