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Published: Wednesday, July 16 2014 9:25 a.m. MDT

Updated: Wednesday, Aug. 13 2014 2:40 p.m. MDT

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ordinaryfolks
seattle, WA

Sadly, it appears that the Republican Tea Party is going to engage in more histrionics to distract the public from real problems confronting the country. This talk of lawsuits and impeachment does nothing for the average citizen. It serves only to gin up the mania of the rabid right wing.

What a way to govern the country and the "Peoples house" as the US House of Representatives used to be known. It ought to be renamed the "House of Koch" or any other billionaire right winger.

procuradorfiscal
Tooele, UT

Re: ". . . the Republican Tea Party is going to engage in more histrionics to distract the public from real problems confronting the country."

Unfortunately, liberals have completely lost the bubble on the real problems confronting the country.

They're so out-of-touch, they spend enormous amounts of time and talent whining over things like global warming, abortion rights, and detainees at Guantanamo, while ignoring the invasion from Latin America, jobs and the economy, and, most scary -- the imperial, lame-duck Obama presidency.

Real people, real Americans, are really concerned about America's real problems. We're not particularly interested in the "crises" bouncing off the walls of that vast liberal echo chamber inside the Washington beltway.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

Obama has broken several laws! Someone needs to hold him accountable, period! Saying that, I know that I risk being presecuted by the IRS, Obama's disagreement punishment agency!

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

No... it's a publicity stunt. They happen in politics ALL THE TIME.

JoeBlow
Far East USA, SC

"spend enormous amounts of time and talent whining over things like global warming, abortion rights, and detainees at Guantanamo, while ignoring the invasion from Latin America, jobs and the economy, and, most scary -- the imperial, lame-duck Obama presidency."

Unless the discussion is about Social Security, Medicare/Medicaid, or Defense spending, we are ignoring the dollars and watching the pennies closely.

Make our politicians focus on the real issues.

Anti Bush-Obama
Chihuahua, 00

If it's being filed by Boehner, It has no value. He is too much of a establishment neocon to do anything really damaging.

Whatever
Springville, UT

All this impeachment talk is just a typical faux news gimmick designed to excite the low information tea party rubes.

Redshirt1701
Deep Space 9, Ut

If there is sufficient evidence to sue Obama and make him stop doing certain things or to make sure he does other things, then there is sufficient evidence for impeachment.

I wish that Congress has the moral strength to actually go through with impeachment proceedings.

GaryO
Virginia Beach, VA

"Does the lawsuit against Obama have any value?"

Absolutely, it has value.

It underscores the FACT that Republicans leaders are inclined to invent hare-brained schemes, most of which will come back to harm America and Americans.

This is just the latest in a long list.

Some noteworthy Republican schemes:

Reagonomics - Reducing taxes for the highest earners, thus reducing revenue from what it otherwise would be, and making America a major debtor nation, while doing nothing to create jobs.

Making a Federal case out of Democratic President's sexual indiscretions, instead of focusing on important issues, like Terrorism.

Failing to pay attention to terrorist activities that culminated in 911, and then attacking a nation that didn't attack us first in order to institute a plan of "nation building," and killing 4,000 Americans and 100,000 Iraqis in the process, thereby creating thousands of terrorists dedicated to our destruction, while wasting trillions of dollars, and destabilizing the Middle East for years to come.

Suing a sitting President is just another incredibly dumb idea, that could only come from top-level Republican strategists.

GaryO
Virginia Beach, VA

Hey Anti Bush Obama -

So . . . Boehner "is too much of an establishment neocon to do anything really damaging."

Great Point !!

After all, the ability to inflict damage is the greatest measure of worth for Republicans in Congress, isn't it?

And our Tea-Party-infested Congress has shown us just how much damage they can do to America and Americans.

And that's EXACTLY what we should expect.

After all, when you elect anti-government zealots into positions of government power, you can't really expect them to govern in any way beneficial to the nation. Doing so would negate the very premise that ran on . . . That government is inherently bad.

Howard Beal
Provo, UT

This isn't going to go anywhere. Our country has too many pressing issues and no time for this garbage.

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

@ GaryO,

Re: "It underscores the FACT that Republicans leaders are inclined to invent hare-brained schemes, most of which will come back to harm America and Americans"...

So... do similar hare-brained schemes DEMOCRATS tried during the Bush administration say the same thing about them? Or is it only when Republicans do it???

You never know... SOME people's partisan-blinders work that way you know.

Like when several Democrats wrote up Articles of Impeachment for President Bush... and submitted them, and actually got enough support to bring it up for a vote!

Is that not a similar thing? So.. does it not say the same about Democrats? Or are your blinders on today?

FT
salt lake city, UT

It holds political value, nothing else. The GOP strategy since day one has been to run out the clock. This is just another tactic. We all see the picture quite clearly of Senator Nero (aka Boehner) playing his fiddle while our great country burns.

procuradorfiscal
Tooele, UT

Re: "Suing a sitting President is just another incredibly dumb idea, that could only come from top-level Republican strategists."

You mean people like Dennis Kucinich? He sued both sitting Presidents Bush and Obama over his unhinged aversion to war. Other Democrat iconoclasts also filed lawsuits that were quickly dismissed. High-level Congressional Dems, including John Conyers, Keith Ellison, Jerrold Nadler, and Cynthia McKinney also made a run at impeaching President Bush. Nancy Pelosi indicated she would support the move, if only she weren't in Congress.

Top-level Republican strategists are certainly not the only incredibly dumb denizens of the la-la-Land inside the Washington Beltway -- they've got plenty of Democrat company.

Atlas Smashed
Santa Monica, CA

The GOP needs to take attention off a recovering economy and successful Obamacare.

So if this impeachment nonsense distracts enough people, then yes, it will have value.

Schnee
Salt Lake City, UT

It's a publicity stunt mostly though they did pick something that they at least have a long-shot bid with. However... what if they win? Okay all that happens is that the employer mandate for Obamacare goes into effect immediately, something the Republicans don't even want.

ordinaryfolks
seattle, WA

procuradorfiscal

Just which Democratic House Speaker aided and abetted the fringes of his/her party to indict, press a suit, impeach or in any way file charges against Bush?

Crickets, me thinks.

Your position is untenable, and you present us a false equivalency. The Speaker of the House, Mr Boehner, is the highest elected official who bears the initials G.O.P.. after his name and title. As such he ought to adhere to a higher standard than satisfying the kook fringe of his party. Unfortunately for the American public, we are now about to be subjected to an endless pseudo-scandal that will deliver absolutely nothing to the base, to the public in general, or to the ideals of good governance because this man is a witless wonder. And this is the highest elected official that the Republican/Tea Party has given us. A higher power is needed to save us and our country.

airnaut
Everett, 00

Sure --

Right after we sue Bush/Cheney for their pillaging and plundering!

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

@FT,
What was the Democrat strategy from the day Bush took office?

2000 - Democrats angry at the closeness of Bush's election promised to block ANYTHING he proposed.

2006 - Nancy Pelosi got on TV and promised to roll back everything he got his first term, and tie up Congress in continual investigations, funding battles, impeachment, etc.

Google "Confident Democrats Lay Out Agenda"... (Washington Post May 7 2006).

"House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (Calif.) said in an interview last week that a Democratic House would launch a series of investigations of the Bush administration, beginning with the White House's first-term energy task force and probably including the use of intelligence in the run-up to the invasion of Iraq. Pelosi denied Republican allegations that a Democratic House would move quickly to impeach President Bush. But, she said of the planned investigations, "You never know where it leads to."

Do you remember NONE of this? Google it... read the whole article... they promised to roll back everything he did in his first term and block ANYTHING he tried to do this term.

What goes around comes around. Democrats are just getting payback... and whining.

Screwdriver
Casa Grande, AZ

Millions of dollars in campaign contributions is it's value.

Did you mean to ask if it has merit?

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