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Published: Wednesday, July 16 2014 6:05 p.m. MDT

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Uncle Rico
Sandy, UT

"University of Utah law professor Shima Baradaran said that while prosecutors have a "pretty solid case," Shurtleff and Swallow could argue that the charges are politically motivated."

Hey Shima, do you think they are guilty or not? I don't know that people are really interested to see if the political biased card "Holds water".

Sal
Provo, UT

Becky Lockhart disappointed me when she stated on television that 'finally justice had been served.' I guess she has found them guilty without giving them the benefit of a trial.

Henry Drummond
San Jose, CA

I've read the probable cause statement. They're going to have to come up with something better than "the charges are politically motivated."

EisenhowerRepublican
SLC, UT

Mr. Shurtleff has sought our sympathy by talking about his years of selfless public service in lieu of seeking big bucks as a corporate attorney. On the other hand, he says the charges are politically motivated, implying his prosecutor is just out for a bigger elected position. His posturing defeats his own "political" argument.

DrGroovey
Salt Lake City, UT

I have a hard time buying the "politically motivated charges" garbage when, 1) the charges were decided upon by a republican and a democrat, 2) the republican controlled legislature basically came to the same conclusion, 3) everyone who has been following this case and is familiar with it knows there is something unlawful that has happened.

I'm looking forward to seeing Shurtleff and Swallow give specific responses to the things they are accused of, not just weak cries that they are being treated unfairly.

And as I have said before, whenever you have a one party state like we do, unethical behavior and corruption will flourish. When there is no opposition in politics then the politicians soon believe they can get away with anything.

The Real Maverick
Orem, UT

Politically motivated?

Because the FBI, several utah DAs (some repub), and the repub legislature suddenly have it in for repubs Shurtleff and swallow?

Huh?

If you believe in these things then I had some beach front property in Wyoming to sell ya.

JWB
Kaysville, UT

This web. Mr. Shurtleff liked power and pulled all attorneys of the State under his wing. At what cost and what efficiency did we gain. Mr. Swallow believed he was more powerful than our Governor even as a Chief Deputy to Mr. Shurtleff. That was Mr. Shurtleff;s downfall to put his man of campaign funds as his Chief Deputy. He should have put in the most qualified person not someone who maybe could skirt around laws but lived the laws. You need a top notch person of integrity at that position. The FBI may have stopped their investigation last fall but from articles they have appeared to be there every step of the way. Why? Who are they protecting? The Davis and SL DAs have worked together,bipartisan to stop collusion.

This is a black-eye but the House had the steadfastness to do something. That did help in this whole process even though the former AG's should be responsible for that cost, from their personal account. They took an oath and have a Utah bar code of ethics to live, everyday. David had Uriah and Uriah was faithful. David designed a plan for Uriah on the battlefront.

New to Utah
PAYSON, UT

As Kirk Jowers pointed out the inconsistent decision of the DOJ to drop the case and the house panels pursuit leave questions. If a guilty plea is found why did DOJ drop the case but if found innocent why did the media, the house panel spend perhaps $10 million by that time to pursue.It is one thing to make charges and another to prove them.

SharpHooks
Sandy, UT

That these two operated shamelessly in the fishbowl that is the public eye, and were so careless and blatant in their dealings is beyond comprehension.

Nobody buried them in these charges---this is not accidental.
They did enough to attract scrutiny and ultimately--felony charges.

They are not being prosecuted for an occasional favor here---a phone call there...these are some SERIOUS charges. They will not be dismissed with a slap on the wrist or token fine. Their misdeeds affect citizens across the entire spectrum of political affiliation and religion.

Sure--they proclaim their innocence---Shurtleff much more so than the quiet Swallow. But these are not just rumors of illegal activity---there are facts and evidence to warrant arrest and charges.
And before Shurtleff gets all huffy about his family being put out---what about the 5000 families at the wrong end of the B of A "deal"?
His lawyer would serve Mark well to muzzle him.

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

Holder’s injustice department chose not to press charges because they saw it would implicate harry reid. The Utah GOP wants a clean house, that’s why they are involved. too bad the national dem party refuses to clean its own house.

JWB
Kaysville, UT

"They're going to want to fight," said Brett Tolman, a former U.S attorney for Utah.

He appears to be still federalized as the DOJ didn't want to get into state politics and laws. Racketeering has a definition in Utah which could be different than federal law. We also have some type of ethic laws even though the Legislature and the Governor have avoided that topic since now. We have had problems in the past with speakers of the House, Lieutenant Governors and Legislators but we don't necessarily want to highlight our problems to the world. Everyone is doing it can be bad for our children and grandchildren but also others know that is not an excuse for us doing it.

These men violated our trust as citizens of our State of Utah. What is worse, is, they were supposed to know or their staff know and to ensure the AG knows what the laws are and mean, to real people, and especially attorneys within the State Bar. Ethics and integrity are more than law, the basis for a civil society and for trust. Trust in God not trust in men or women with intent to deceive.

Aeron
Provo, UT

Why does he have crutches?

Kings Court
Alpine, UT

Crime or politics? Really? I can't believe this is even up for debate. There should be no excuse making in the media for corruption. Politicians will be politicians is a terrible mindset for the peoples of a democratic society to nurture.

RBN
Salt Lake City, UT

While the charges certainly appear justified, the timing is interesting. Mr. Gill is locked in what looks to be a real battle for County Attorney. Charging allegedly corrupt politicians certainly looks like a good campaign strategy.

UtahBlueDevil
Durham, NC

I knew someone would try to spin this back to being about Obama and his cabinet. Nice spin Lost... you are as reliable as the sun rising.

Since Lost decided to takes us there....the first line of this piece struck me as ironical in stating "Investigators spent nearly two years building a criminal case against former Utah Attorneys General Mark Shurtleff and John Swallow,"

How interesting few are calling this a cover up or a conspiracy when it take two years to build a case strong enough to pursue arrest warrants when all the work was done in the safe confines of the state of Utah. And yet when it takes two years to bring a terrorist to justice in a yet to be stable foreign nation.... that rises to the level of high crimes and cover ups.

Justice takes a long time. Longer than most want or have the patience for. It will be interesting to see where the threads of this end... who is attached at the other end of these allegations. If these men were trying to gain unjust influence, we need to see who was on the receiving or giving side.

regis
Salt Lake City, UT

There is no question these guys broke the law. It's found in the Utah Code at Section 67-16-5 and states:

(2) ... it is an offense for a public officer or public employee to knowingly receive, accept, take, seek, or solicit, directly or indirectly for himself or another a gift of substantial value or a substantial economic benefit tantamount to a gift ... if the public officer or public employee recently has been, is now, or in the near future may be involved in any governmental action directly affecting the donor or lender ...

There is no question that both Shurtleff and Swallow accepted gifts from persons who were the subjects of governmental action taken or to be taken by the AG's office. They broke the law. And the law in question carries felony penalties.

Anti Government
Alpine, UT

Get rid of the corruption regardless of who or where it is found......and that goes for local, State, or Federal politicians.

The stench and the consequences are having a dramatic effect on all of us.

Quit choosing sides based on politics and just get to the truth. If people on either side don't want to follow the rules then they need to be gone.

NeilT
Clearfield, UT

aeron: Shurtleff injured his leg in a motorcycle accident.

mcclark
Salt Lake City, UT

The worst thing Shurtleff did was stabbing thousands of Utah home owners in the back so he could get a cushy job. His own lawyers were outraged when Shurtleff dropped the suit.

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

Bluedevil
It is good to be reliable, unlike BO and his injustice department, or anything else he does. Thank you.

But, since you brought it up, harry reid is not a member of BO’s cabinet. Glad I could explain that to you.

Despite the two years spent, the injustice department chose not to prosecute. If it is such a strong case, why did they not prosecute?

The issue of making an arrest in an instable country is separate from a cover-up. What you imply is akin to saying since the spoon was dirty, the meal must not have been cooked. Yeah, somewhat related, but two separate issues.

And few are calling this a cover-up, because it is not. BOTH parties are looking to clean up the mess; with BO and his ilk, only one party is interested in cleaning the mess, the other party, the dems, is interested in covering up the mess.

If these guys are found guilty, throw the book at them. But give them their day in court.

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