Published: Thursday, July 17 2014 12:00 a.m. MDT
We don't need to modify the law, the Obama administration already has the
power to modify the laws. They are coming here for amnesty, not the
violence and poverty. They are not refugees. There are no travel advisories, nor
are churches pulling out their missionaries. People outside of the United States
must apply for refugee status. People who have already made it to the United
States border or the interior (perhaps by using a visa or by entering illegally)
can apply for asylum status.They belong back home with their
They are NOT refugees. Refugees come from places like Syria, Somalia and Ivory
Coast.A recent Border Patrol survey of those captured reveals that they
are coming here because they know we don't enforce our immigration laws and
they can get in line for Obama's deferred action amnesty program. 94% of
them said that's why they came here.If we don't push them back
home what do you think will happen? Will more come if they know the outcome of
this first wave?Let's start making the connection that our lack of
enforcement is CAUSING people to die trying to get here. We need to deter
people, not encourage them.
The amnesty advocates such as the DN would be overjoyed for these illegals to
gain Refugee status. That would be a back door amnesty. In addition to being
able to stay we would then be compelled to pay them benefits. They brutal our
country and we pay them to do it. There is no justification for Refugee status
to be granted. Like the old trail boss would say Head em up and move em out.
Tough times and challenges don't build or define's one charecter, they
reveal it. How we handle this crisis as a country tells ourself and the world
who we really are.
@FTI totally agree. The world already knows that we don't enforce our
own immigration laws and loopholes abound for illegals to stay here and maybe
get personalized amnesty along the way.The world already knows "who we
really are." We are patsies creating magnets for people to walk through the
desert and die trying to get here.This is not a new situation. It has been
decades in the making.When are we going to establish our own sovereignty
and STOP these manufactured humanitarian crises?
We cannot, cannot send these children back. The murder rate in the U.S. is about
4.7 per 100,000. In Honduras, it's 173. How can we send kids back to that
level of violence? My daughter and I were talking about this. We'll take
Obama's "deferred action amnesty plan??????"Try again.
The real name of the plan that prevents Obama from taking action now is the
"Bush deferred action amnesty plan."But the truth is so
darned inconvenient isn't it?
Thank you for this thoughful and nonpartisan editorial!
Yes, we should help – reunite them with their families back in their home
countriesFT,Yes, tough times DO define a person’s
character. The illegals show when times are tough, they are going to go where
they can get someone else to take care of them, rather than work to improve the
situation where they are. Trying to sneak in and get amnesty reveals A LOT
about their character.Red Corvette,So the LDS church is
responsible for all the world’s poor? The church DOES take care of its own
wherever they are, and many who are not yet their own.E Sam,You’d rather they die trying to cross the desert or be forced into
sexual slavery trying to get here when they see even more amnesty? Creating a
magnet that many die while they are pulled to it is NOT very compassionate.By sending them back, we are sending a message that will discourage
others from taking that very dangerous journey.Old man,There
was a 2012 BO executive order that plays a large part in this and we already
know BO ignores laws he does not like – even parts of Obamacare
Re: Prelax "They are coming here for amnesty, not the violence and
poverty. They are not refugees. "But some of them clearly are
refugees, particularly those from Honduras where the narco-cartels have taken
over. I commend the Deseret News for this thoughtful editorial.
It's big hearted to take in refugees, but there IS a cost to society. And
that cost is sometimes hard to bear. Child refugees often have traumatic scars
from what they experienced in their home-land, which are sometimes expanded and
transferred to the people in their new land when they struggle to speak the
language, fit in, earn a living like the affluent people around them. Those
issues sometimes surface in violent ways.Examples:Sulejman Talović (a refugee whose family moved to the United States from
Bosnia). Had anger issues and joined the KKK. At age 18 killed five and
wounded four at Trolley Square. Esar Met (refugee from Burma),
kidnapped and killed a 7-year-old girl. Took 6 years to even START the trail.
Now we are housing him and feeding him for life at the point of the mountain.When I look at the news paper each day, it just shocks me how many of
the high speed chases, hit and run accidents, gangs, drug bands, and other crime
involves refugees from other countries.There is a cost. Not always
to you... but to somebody...Continued...
@E SamLet the poliicans and the partisans point fingers, assess blame and
solve little. At the end of the day, there are children who need to eat and
have shelter. You're offering "to take 4" is so very inspiring.
While some protest and hold posters telling the children to go home you open
your heart and your home. Wow! We need to have the same discussion in our house.
Continued...I'm not saying we don't take in refugees.
I'm just saying, "understand the cost".Refugees
involved in crime doesn't only happen in Utah. It happens in literal
every State in the United States. Especially border States. There are
organized crime groups that make their whole living off providing fake IDs and
documentation, or stealing identities for people who need fake ID to work and
function in the USA. There are groups that seek out refugees and illegal
residents who can't find work and offer them HUGE money to help them with
their business (just selling herbs, etc). They know they won't turn their
bosses in... because that would get THEM deported...There are just a
TON of problems that bread of this problem (people coming to America
illegally).If you want to talk solutions... the solution is not
taking them all in.The solution has to start where they live. We
need to work with those countries to help make them more like the USA... instead
of their people just fleeing to the USA.They need to become a
country committed to "Rule-of-law" and most of their problems go away.
RE 2bits "We need to work with those countries to help make them more
like the USA."You mean imperialist like the USA? That might
help them, but they just don't have the appropriate muscle. The reason so
much of Latin America is a basket case is in part due to the exploitation of
these countries by American capital.
This is not a complex issue. Unfortunately, three entities want open borders and
amnesty: the Democratic Party, businesses that employ illegals, and churches.
Their reasons are all the same: gain. And it's the selfishness
of these three groups that have caused this crisis. As long as they get what
they want, they're happy, regardless of the impact on our country and its
citizens. That's the reason no border has been put in place, laws
aren't enforced, and why there's this never ending call for the reform
of our immigration laws.And trying to imply a holier cause is
incredibly manipulative and offensive to any thinking person. Where's the
compassion for the millions of citizens who have lost their jobs to cheap
illegal immigrants? That's right, there isn't any.Did the
editors ignore the fact that 59% of Americans want these children shipped back
and only 27% believe efforts should be made for them to stay here? Why don't the editors show their real, sincere compassion by letting
illegals have their jobs, wealth, positions, homes, and identities? Then I might
believe them. Until then, it's nothing but propaganda.
Perhaps we need to take a look at how effective past refugees/immigrants have
been. Let's take Mexico for example.We have 11.4 million Mexican
nationals living in the USA.Add to that 7 million illegal aliens from
Mexico.They send home about $2 Billion in remittances EVERY MONTH.How has that impacted the violence in Mexico? How has that deterred illegal
immigration from Mexico?Is this what you want?Not me. Let's
start enforcing our immigration laws.This latest issue at the border is
merely an microcosm of the overall immigration program. Too many loopholes and
not enough enforcement. And worst of all, politicians pandering for votes and
elites who are citizens of the world looking for us to provide cheap labor and
government benefits.I refuse to allow progressives to give away our
Its' hard to understand all the racism on behalf of commenters here
today.They seem to ONLY want to allow persons of hispanic heritage
to immigrate to the U.S.What about the 3 or 4 million Somalians who
would like to claim "refugee" status?, or the million or so Bosnians?
Don't they deserve the same shot at citizenship? How about the million of
Syrians who have been displaced? Should we let them ALL claim "refugee"
status?Why not?Last week a couple of Congresspersons visited
Guatemala and debunked the myth of "refugee". I think (hope)that pretty
much everyone knows that the latest wave of illegal immigrant trespassers are
actually winding up on our southern border because "coyotes" are urging
them to come to the U.S. as our guests. For a "nominal" fee of course,
(5-7k)the coyotes have convinced them that the U.S. will provide them housing,
room and board, for, well......pretty much as long as they want.Of
course, the Obama administration isn't doing much to dispel that myth.IF things are so bad in central america, WHY hasn't this administration
recalled their ambassadors and embassy staff?
Should there be a major war in the Middle East, should Israel's citizens be
allowed to immigrate to the United States and become citizens?Or..Are only "some people" able to come to America in large groups?
Re: ". . . the Obama Administration has dispatched a team of investigators
to try and disrupt such criminal enterprises."Yeah -- for all
the good that'll do.The only real solution is to re-assert
control over our borders. That's not rocket science. By abrogating and
ignoring important responsibilities, in favor of political expedience, the Obama
administration created this problem. It's now up to Obama to fix it.He has got to release the stranglehold he has on border enforcement,
empowering, rather than harassing resources in states and counties that are
willing and able to step in and defend themselves from this invasion. Bring in
the National Guard, as well, as a temporary fix.He should enforce
and strengthen existing laws that sanction greedy employers, who are the
culprits that create the demand for illegal workers.And, he's
got to support a quick change to a well-intentioned, but foolish Bush-era law
that promises sanctuary to these kids.It's not hard. Obama has
the solutions at hand. He should stop thinking like a Democrat and start
thinking like an American.
@Marxist,Re: "You mean imperialist like the USA"...No... I mean what I said (not the strawman words you like to put in my mouth).
Read what I said. They need to be more committed to "RULE-OF-LAW"
(their own laws). I'm pretty sure they don't want drug dealers
killing people and corrupt politics to be "legal".That's where they need to start... not by becoming more
"Imperialistic".==============I always laugh a
little when people call America "Imperialist". I always think of the
British Empire (now THAT was Imperialist). There were British colonies in North
America, but they had many others... Canada, British Isles, India, Australia,
Africa (for their slave trade), Egypt (1799), the capture of Java from the
Netherlands (1811), the acquisition of Singapore (1819) and Malacca (1824) and
the defeat of Burma (1826), etc). Many of these colonies still bear some form
of the British flag (AKA Union Jack) today.The British Empire is
over now... but the British Empire, the Ottoman Empire, etc, are what I think of
when I think "Imperialists". Not the United States. What
colonies does the United States have? What countries do we actually control?
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