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Published: Tuesday, July 15 2014 7:25 p.m. MDT

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let's roll
LEHI, UT

I'm more than willing to give Mr. Shurtliff and Mr. Swallow the presumption of innocence until the legal process concludes.

By the same token, Mr. Shurtliff shouldn't expect me, or anyone else, to give any credence to his attempts to ascribe any political or untoward motivation to the charges until the legal process concludes.

BYUalum
South Jordan, UT

I believe in the legal system. In the meantime, all those who live in glass houses should not throw stones!

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

I can't imagine facing 15 years in prison at their age and stage of life when they should be enjoying grandchildren and retirement. It is hard to know who is guilty or innocent and who is telling the truth when politics is involved. Where there is smoke there is at least some fire so I suspect these men will most likely be facing some sort of behind bar time.

marxist
Salt Lake City, UT

Does anybody besides me see the humor in calling Utah "the best managed state" in the midst of this mess? Makes you wonder just how much filth there is, doesn't it?

Nothing is going to change until Utahns (especially LDS Utahns) decide that they will not face damnation if they vote for non-Republicans. Don't want to vote for a Democrat? There are other options.

JustGordon
Cottonwood Heights, UT

I find it telling that the political corruption story in Utah of the 21st century has generated only two comments, neither of which express outrage that the chief law enforcement officers of this state are charged with numerous counts of breaking Utah law and ethics violations. By the way, the charges could end up resulting in sentences of up to 30 years, not 15.

Uncle_Fester
Niskayuna, NY

I worked for Client #9 in NY and we all saw how that went. My view of this is that politics corrputs and the more power that office holders have the more likely they are to commit criminal acts.

FWJ
Junction City, KS

Evidence that this is indeed a witch hunt for political purposes: Gill refers to the charges as "minimal", yet insisted upon both the S.W.A.T. style service of a simple search warrant, (bordering on police brutality) and upon arresting them at their homes, as if the charges were much more serious,for example gun running. The only legitimate reason for such tactics are political, nothing in the charges warranted such excessive use of the enforcement branch. Such antics make for some great theater but they are still Cromwellian (Man For All Seasons) and indicative of motive.

JWB
Kaysville, UT

Politically motivated? The House of Representatives of our State had enough for Mr. Swallow to resign as AG. That as a lot of
Republicans involved in that process. Mr. Swallow was Mr. Shurtleff's chief deputy and chief adviser. Mr. Shurtleff should have been seeing the actions that he was doing as "little by little" going in the wrong direction for the AG's office. There were plenty of their staff that noticed the trend. Mr. Reyes wants not to have a black hole over his office but when the past 4 years or more happened, it is a good day to see action taken by the House and DA's of two Utah counties and the Department of Public Safety involved in the cleanup of alleged violations. Mr. Shurtleff had plenty of time to do the right thing in his prior office after some of the alleged violations surfaced in 2012 against candidate Swallow. He stuck with Swallow by officially pushing him to get elected the last week prior to the election. He said awhile back that he now wishes "John" hadn't done some things. Their camps are now divided and Rome fell. Pride still is there.

Befuddled
WEST VALLEY CITY, UT

marxist
Salt Lake City, UT -

I recall seeing Harry Reid's (democrat) name in the story, will be interesting to see where that leads. The very nature of politicians regardless of party is unethical! That has to change! These jobs were never intended to be career positons but a call to civil service.

Lolly
Lehi, UT

This case has sure cost a lot of money to gather evidence. The thing that still haunts my wife and I is the raid on the Shurtleff home when law enforcement knew that Mark was not home. Confronting an innocent teenager with drawn pistol can't be called anything but abuse. We shall see how this all turns out but as the Governor said yesterday, it is a huge negative on the state of Utah's reputation.

bullet56
Olympia, WA

I find it interesting that local officials are out of shape over the FBI bringing charges. It makes sense if locals are all of the same party and mind set. Let truth shine its light of investigation and evidence on the scene.

midvale guy
MIDVALE, UT

@marxist-I don't believe that dishonesty is specific to any single political party. I'm sure there is a pattern of corruption in many parts of Utah politics and national politics but I would challenge you to prove that it is party specific in any way. The fact they were raising the money to bribe Harry Reid (DEM) says a lot too. One might jump to the conclusion that he can be bought as well. I would hope if the feds had any evidence on him they would pursue it as well. I do not agree with the judge waving the $250,000 in bail. These gentlemen were charged with enforcing the law and in turn broke the law and should have to go through the same problems normal people go through when they get into the system. I will definitely be voting this judge out at the next possible election.

jimhale
Eugene, OR

Let's not reject such allegations with a "it couldn't happen in Utah" attitude. Corruption in Utah government dates back at least to the early seventies - the days of Democratic governor Calvin Rampton - when left turn lanes on State Street were sold left and right.

1Observer
Cottonwood Heights, UT

These kinds of charges are typically things you see in other states. It is tragic that two people entrusted by the citizens to uphold the law seemed to have such disregard for that law. I find it laughable that some commenters claim that you should vote Democrat, non-Mormon or whatever. Unfortunately, corruption knows no political or religious bounds. Take a look at California, New York, Alabama, Louisiana or nearly any other state and you will find politicians of all stripes involved in criminal or unethical activity. Fortunately, my experience is that most of the people elected to political offices are good people trying to do the right thing. But there are scoundrels and that is who we hear about in the news, not the 80% who are trying to do the right things in the right ways. If we want good people in office, we need to encourage good people to run and we need to carefully examine candidates and vote for them on their merits and not on their political party or religious affiliation.

GaryO
Virginia Beach, VA

Hey Patriot -

" It is hard to know who is guilty or innocent and who is telling the truth when politics is involved."

When is politics NOT involved in criminal cases?

If individuals from the wrong side of the tracks violate a law, the repercussions for them will ALWAYS be considerably worse than for someone in the right social class.

Money talks in Utah's Criminal Justice System, and so does social status, having the right friends, and belonging to the right religion. Not only does it talk, but it's very persuasive.

And that's not just true in Utah.

I'm surprised these two were even charged, given the fact that their peers, friends, and colleagues in Utah's Criminal so-called justice system are the ones doing the charging.

one old man
Ogden, UT

Just a note. Any connection between this case and Harry Reid were cleared a long time ago. Investigators found no evidence any connection existed.

dalefarr
South Jordan, Utah

Good comprehensive article by the D-New. It's nice to see that journalism is not dead at the D-News.

Tekakaromatagi
Dammam, Saudi Arabia

The Grandmother Rule, "If your grandmother knew what you were doing, would she approve?" If the answer is no then you shouldn't be doing it.

Don't accept favors from people you are investigating. Even if there is no quid pro quo. It looks rotten.

dalefarr
South Jordan, Utah

If Swallow had been appointed, he would have been fired but nothing else would have happened.
Neither Shurtleff nor Swallow would have been prosecuted for their alleged criminal acts. And if we ever have a corrupt Governor, or any other corrupt prominent politician, it's unlikely an appointed AG would ever act. Ditto for politically connected white collar criminals. The solution is not to make the attorney general a political plum to be awarded to a loyal member of the political network.

New to Utah
PAYSON, UT

Politics is the central theme of this whole affair. Sim Gill the Democrat Parties most visible Utah point man for both Holder and Obama is going to be accused of playing politics. Choreographing the excessive force in searching Swallow and Shurtleffs homes and then having them arrested at their homes makes compelling theatre. It also raises questions of motive.My opinion is that there is clearly problems in the system. Utah law needs to be tightened up.It looks like it is going to be a long and bumpy ride.

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