Comments about ‘600 strong, BYU athletes are in a service league all their own’

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Published: Monday, July 14 2014 10:00 a.m. MDT

Updated: Monday, July 14 2014 11:09 a.m. MDT

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Silent Lurker
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Note to DN staff: Almost everyone does some volunteer work or Pro Bono work on a regular basis. The LDS church has long been an advocate of volunteerism and community service. Do we really need an article everyday about how wonderful BYU is? If it isn't their prowess against inferior sports opponents it's their compassion and volunteer work. Enough already! Your daily articles are skewing the true perspective of the good being done.

IA Cougar
West Des Moines, IA

There are haters out there regarding BYU everything. Nothing can ever utter from their anonymous keyboards that is positive about BYU. Regardless of all that hate, this is really what BYU is all about and why I love BYU. It's genuine and it's more than sports. We don't need the mighty Pac12 for this. Congrats to all of the athletes at BYU for taking on a cause bigger than themselves and for losing themselves in the service of others. You are all champions to me.

I'm sure all of the Utah schools have service programs in place and I salute any institution for doing it. I'm proud to support a school that makes it a focus. In the end, it will count for way more than wins and losses.

Thanks for the article. Go BYU!

Y Grad / Y Dad
Richland, WA

I, too, like to hear about the positive things people do with their lives. Keep them coming!

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

"No other university reports anything of the magnitude or scale of these athletes."

That's why I love the University of Utah Pac 12 utes. We are the classiest university in the state and don't need to tell everyone about all the great things we do and all the great people(alum, students, athletes) we have.

We just do it.

Twin Lights
Louisville, KY

Chris B,

Au contraire. No university I know of leaves any good work unreported. State, private, religious. All of them.

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

Twin,

How would you know if the University of Utah did something and didn't need to publicize how great we are?

CodyCougar
Madison, SD

Chris B.

I have one absolutely mouth-stuffing statistic for you.

Average ACT of entering Freshman:

BYU 29
UU 22

And all your smack will never compensate for that.

Twin Lights
Louisville, KY

Chris B,

Not an issue with Utah or any other school. But the six colleges my immediate family has attended (a mix of small, large, public, private, and religious) and the several others for my sister's family never hold back. They take every chance to let their alumni (donors) know the positives for the school. If the U is not doing this, they may need a new Alumni relations person.

Joey K
Sandy, UT

While I admire the athletes doing things the right way and serving their community, the claim that BYU is a "missionary tool" for the LDS church is not true. For all of the service done by these no name athletes at speaking engagements, etc., none of it will make up for the animosity sparked by Max Hall's hate-filled rant, the Branden Davie's scandel and BYU's selective Honor code enforcement which has been proven to disproportionately target minorities, and the gang rape scandal under Crouton. The LDS Church needs to realize that athletics and religion don't mix. I know many more people who have been turned off by Mormons as a result of interactions with BYU athletes and fans than have been turned on by service, good sportmanship, etc.

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

Twin,

And yet you still haven't answered how you would know if Utah did something and didn't publicize it? How are you certain of every service event Utah has done and that you're so certain every event it publicized afterwards?

Crickets, crickets

Silent Lurker
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Twin Lights

There are many very large organizations that serve in silence. The LDS church silently does much more that BYU and makes very little of it public. I have often wondered if BYU has a PR department tasked with having at least one article (often sports related) ready on a daily basis for the local media. I am not questioning that there is good being done but it does seem as though it might be being done for recognition and not true christian compassionate service. The constant band beating by BYU makes it apear as though they are trying skew public opinion about BYU. I believe BYU is a fine institution and preforms a very worthy role of service but perhaps could do so with little less seeking of acknowledgement for their good works.

Silent Lurker
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Cody Cougar

It's not how you enter a University or College but with what knowledge and character you leave it with. ATC scores mean nothing.

Sports Are Great
Salt Lake City, UT

Silent Lurker,

You're right, ACT means nothing. Unless of course one is measuring work ethic and intelligence, in which case, the Ivy League schools would disagree with you.

CougarSunDevil
Phoenix, AZ

Chris B

"And yet you still haven't answered how you would know if Utah did something and didn't publicize it? How are you certain of every service event Utah has done and that you're so certain every event it publicized afterwards?"

It's because they didn't. I get stuff from ASU and NAU all the time touting the Tillman run, scholarship needs and how the students perform community service, including what they did. If I didn't get those types of literature, I'd assume they were doing nothing, which is why EVERY college touts their wares.

Taysom4Heisman
Heber City, UT

@Chris B

"And yet you still haven't answered how you would know if Utah did something and didn't publicize it?"

I would like to ask you the very same question about BYU. Not everything we do is publicized either.

ekute
Layton, UT

Taysom4Heisman

Yes it is.

Silent Lurker
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Sports Are Great

I would also point out that Ivy League schools are more concerned with how much knowledge you gained and what level of integrity you leave with than the ACT score you entered with.

Chris from Rose Park
Hartford, CT

@Cody Cougar and Sports Are Great

Poor form to bring up ACT scores in an article like this. It has no bearing to the conversation and it wasn't even a good comeback at that. All you did was insult a wonderful student body that is seeking higher learning. Does that make you feel bigger than Chris B? Feel happy that you just insulted the merit of the school attended by J. Willard Marriot, Lavell Edwards (Master's Degree), and Thomas Monson.

Let's just get along and realize that both BYU and the UofU (and just about every other school) do good for their respective communities.

Objectified
Richfield, UT

@ Chris B:

If you are representative of a typical U supporter, then it's probably the other way around. At the level you've beaten the drum of any and/or all Ute accomplishments, it's most likely that any and/or all of that school's accomplishments are quite exaggerated. Especially in comparison to other universities in the area.

I've still not been able to determine why you and a few other Ute supporters (such as Silent Lurker) are almost always the first to jump on and comment about every article concerning BYU. That level of fixation (obsession) is somewhat difficult to understand.

@ Silent Lurker:

Are there actually articles about BYU's accomplishments every day as you claim, or is that another of your exaggerations? What daily articles have there been this past week? I'd honestly like some verification to your rhetorical claims.

There's a simple solution to your issue. Why don't you and Chris B just not read anything in the paper with BYU in the title? It would then be one less thing for you two to complain about on a regular basis. You and all of us would then be happier.

Brio
Alpine, UT

@ Silent Lurker:

If, as you claim, there are many big organizations that render substantial service in silence, then how do you know more about such things than the rest of the public... especially if all that service is done silently?

Also, how exactly is it that you personally know what Ivy League schools are most concerned with regarding knowledge and integrity? What specifically qualifies you to represent their acclaimed priorities in those areas... or are you just once again making up something that sounds good?

Is it really so difficult to simply acknowledge the goodness of public service... any public service, regardless of its source? The fact that volunteer work is being rendered is truly what's important here.

It's an out-of-skew ego issue to turn such things into a competition... (i.e., my school renders more service than your school, etc.). Based on some of the above comments, it appears time for a reality check.

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