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Published: Friday, July 11 2014 6:15 p.m. MDT

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UtahBlueDevil
Durham, NC

Liberty.... I don't know... was Moses a prophet or not? Did he not do something against Gods council, which ultimately resulted in him not being able to proceed to the promised land with the rest of the house of Israel. This whole notion that because one is a prophet means they are perfect is something we all know, or should know not to be true. Did not Joseph Smith loose part of the transcript by doing something the Lord didn't want him to do.

The scriptures are full of examples of how very religious men, are also very mortal and human. If this comes down to an argument that a faiths leader needs to be perfect and without fault for the faith to be true, all faith of all kids fails.

There was one, and only one perfect One... and that was not Brigham Young.

"Plus Mormons tend to be much more moderate in their opposition to Obama and Democrats than the Evangelicals are. Disagreeing and outright hostility are two different things!"

@Indiana H - completely agree with your statements.

UtahBlueDevil
Durham, NC

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Also note that every time the church does actually make a public stance on a political issue, Obama falls on the other side. "

Oh please, give me a break. I will give you one where they are in lock step... immigration. This trying to infuse your politics into religion is what is wrong with Utah.... and something I don't miss. There are many areas - Obama taken completely out of the picture - where constitutional law is not in synch with our religious tenants. It is ones right to live a life of adult - but we as a faith don't agree with. It is clearly legal to smoke, to drink, are protected constitutionally.... but are things we as a faith don't approve of.

Even Romney, if he had been elected, would have to act on constitutional principles over his own religious beliefs had he been elected. He would have had to protect ones right to sin.... even if he personally doesn't agree with the sin. He would have had to protect free speech, even if he found that speech offensive.

Please - lets move beyond the over simplified views of all good, and all evil here.

I M LDS 2
Provo, UT

Amen, Ralph!

I feel the same way. Well said.

KellyWSmith
Sparks, NV

@Ralph- Let's look at the facts-Obama did not have his presidency "gutted" from the very beginning. He had at least two full years of Democrat majority in the Senate and the House and ran roughshod over the constitution giving us Obamacare, a complete abomination. The Tea Party arose in protest to such actions purely from a grassroots movement. I personally am proud of what they're doing because they stopped the continued shredding of the Constitution by this administration. Their tactics may appear to be extreme but in reality it is reaction to Obama's extreme left wing tactics, and the Tea Party, a People's movement, has a arisen to try to bring it back towards the center.

Eliyahu
Pleasant Grove, UT

@KellyWSmith
"the Tea Party, a People's movement, has a arisen to try to bring it back towards the center."

Only if your idea of "center" is so far to the right that it falls off the edge of the stage. To the tea party, Eisenhower was a commie fellow traveler and Barry Goldwater was a flaming liberal.

"... ran roughshod over the constitution giving us Obamacare, a complete abomination.'

Was it an "abomination" when Romney enacted essentially the same thing in Mass.? The whole plan was based on what the Republicans had proposed several years earlier. It's time for the right wing to stop shilling for the insurance industry and look at what is in the interests of the people of the United States. If the far right wing had been around two thousand years ago, they would have had Jesus set up a stand and sell the loaves and fishes to the five thousand so he could live in comfort.

cpafred
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

Re:KellyWSmith
"He had at least two full years of Democrat majority in the Senate and the House"

Republican obstructionism required a super-majority to pass anything. There was only a super-majority for 72 days. The first 2 yrs of Obama's term were plagued by the deaths and illnesses of Senator Byrd and Senator Kennedy. Senator Al Franken, newly elected, didn't get seated until July when the long-protracted challenges to his election were completed.

Rikitikitavi
Cardston, Alberta

Schnee: talk to us all about false witness??? MR BO lies everytime he opens his mouth. There you go again with the old selective memory thing you always pull on us. Did Mitt change his position once or twice? Probably. Show me one time he lied whereas your President has a list of lies longer than both my arms.

Schnee
Salt Lake City, UT

@Rikitikitavi
" Show me one time he lied "

If you can't even remember when he did so in a debate on national television called out on the spot (where the truth was Obama called the Benghazi attack an act of terror in the Rose Garden), you must not have paid much attention.

cpafred
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

Re:rikitikitavi

Mitt Romney was awarded "Lie of the Year" for his ads claiming Obama sold Chrysler to the Italians who are going to build Jeeps in China at the cost of American jobs.

Romney has repeatedly falsely claimed that during his tenure at Bain Capital, "net-net, we created over 100,000 jobs."

Romney also claimed Obama removed the work requirement from the welfare law.

And numerous others, should I go on?

BrentBot
Salt Lake City, UT

Schnee, please tell me one falsehood Mitt Romney told. (Contrary to Harry Reid's protestations, Mitt paid his taxes.) Obama's list is very long: Fast & Furious; Benghazi cover-up, not a "smidgen of corruption" in the IRS targeting of Conservatives and religious organizations, "if you like your doctor, you can keep him", ACA (Obamacare) will save the average family $2,500. When a majority of Democratic delegates to the Democratic Convention voted to exclude God from their platform, Mormons saw the true objectives of Obama and his acolytes.

Brahmabull
sandy, ut

KellyWSmith

Funny, of all 6 reasons you listed as to why you don't like Obama, all 6 could also be applied to Joseph Smith... interesting.

UtahBlueDevil
Durham, NC

"When a majority of Democratic delegates to the Democratic Convention voted to exclude God from their platform, Mormons saw the true objectives of Obama and his acolytes."

Wouldn't that be cool if that were actually true, instead of some fabrication continually perpetuated by those bent on creating this false narrative to justify their own feelings. From an AP article at the time we read,

"Obama intervened directly to get the language changed both on Jerusalem and to reinstate God in the platform, according to campaign officials who insisted on anonymity to describe behind-the-scenes party negotiations. They said Obama's reaction to the omission of God from the platform was to wonder why it was removed in the first place."

And the language was put back in on a floor vote - by the majority. So as you can see, the recounting you are telling is basically a fabrication. Yes, the language was dropped, and then it was reinstated back at Obama's insistence... and sustained by the majority. Yes there were decanters.... some who even boo'ed. But the far right recounting is just.... false and misleading.

Doug10
Roosevelt, UT

truly sad

Bob A. Bohey
Marlborough, MA

My faith and testimony tells me that Mormons dislike with President Obama isn't really about his politics and leadship style.

Riverton Cougar
Riverton, UT

@Schnee

As an example of a Romney "lie" you bring up Benghazi!?!? You can't be serious! Even liberal sources admit that Obama's dealings with the Benghazi issue and his insistence on it being a result of mob violence from a video is very suspicious at best.

You might have a point about Romney's comment if Obama had not insisted that terrorists were not involved until 2 weeks AFTER he supposedly said it was a terrorist attack (and then again even liberal fact check services had to admit that Obama and the moderator were wrong, although of course it didn't go public).

Socal Coug
San Diego, CA

I'm not sure how all the "racism" comments are even allowed on this story. Why would that even be a topic in this story? Really people?

A Guy With A Brain
Enid, OK

Article title: "Gallup poll: Mormons like Obama least of all faith groups"

Practicing/faithful Latter-day Saints know that:

- America is a land blessed above all other lands.
- They know WHY America is a land blessed above all other lands.
- They know the value of freedom.
- They know when freedom is being attacked, despite fancy wrappers and pronouncements it is not being attacked.

It's nice to know that Mormons, politically speaking, are the wisest of the wise.

Riverton Cougar
Riverton, UT

"I will give you one where they are in lock step... immigration."

I didn't know the church advocated for illegal immigration. I'll have to look it up again in the church's statements.

xert
Santa Monica, CA

I have to say that this is one of the most disturbing thread of comments I've ever seen on the Des New website. Whether this note is approved or not, I would like to ask the person who moderates this board to consider something. You disallow posts for almost anything that questions the integrity of church leadership and yet you would allow a high school student to post remarks that compare our President to Satan. You allow others to call him evil. Isn't this slightly hypocritical and in some ways a bit insane? Truly--look over some of these posts and ask yourself if you are helping in any way to serve the public or to make the world a better place. Ask yourself if you are being fair. I know that I myself wrote of my disagreements with Mr. Romney last election and had many posts rejected. I want to also say that I never, ever compared him to the devil or thought or spoke of him as being evil. People, get a hold of yourselves. Anger and hate are what we need least in these times.

bj-hp
Maryville, MO

I have always voted Republican for President and basically this comes from the following:

I disagree with abortion on demand. The Democratic party agrees with this as a whole. I support the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints stand which is abortion may be necessary in case of rape, incest or if the life of the mother is in jeopardy.

Big Government: This is a big one for me where I believe as the founding fathers that we need a strong Federal Government but most laws should stay within the states. However, I disagree when a state wants to succeed from the Union. That right destroys the country as a whole. Though this has become more numerous in recent years I still object to it.

Same-sex marriage: This has been defined by the US Government and the Supreme Court of this land as between man and woman. It wasn't until a certain degree of society has baggered others to accept this lifestyle as good for society. That is baloney in the worst way.

These three areas make up my stand against the Democratic party. It doesn't matter upon race, religion or gender.

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