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Published: Monday, July 14 2014 8:00 a.m. MDT

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Irony Guy
Bountiful, Utah

This Mormon supports Obama and thinks he has done a terrific job against unbelievable (literally) opposition.

IMO Obama's a better Mormon than Romney. Obama's foreign policy has kept us out of stupid wars ("contention is not of me"), while Romney would have had our soldiers getting killed all over the landscape--Iran, Syria, Ukraine, Libya, Iraq, etc. ad nauseam. He's done his best to get affordable health care to everyone ("charity is the pure love of Christ") while Romney considered the "47%"--mostly elderly, disabled, or children--to be irresponsible and not worth helping.

Yes, Obama is closer to my heritage of faith than Romney ever was.

Mark B
Eureka, CA

Why does DN use conservative funded researchers to offer explanations which follow the opinions of their bosses over and over? Could there be any connection with today's question?

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

If we look closely at Obama and measured what he has done against the steel ruler that the Constitution represents, we will find that virtually nothing that he has done is part of his duties. He signed ObamaCare, which allows the government to force us to buy insurance and which forces employers to discard their religious beliefs in order to provide the abortifacients required by Obama. He legislates whenever he disagrees with bills that he has signed. He has modified ObamaCare for political purposes. A President is forbidden to legislate (Article 1, Section 1). He used the IRS for political purposes to harass his political enemies. He invited thousands of illegal immigrants into this country and provided buses to move them, and then demands that Congress give him almost $4 billion to solve that problem. Then there is Benghazi, the G.M. and Chrysler debacles, the Solyndra fiasco,

Members of the LDS Church expect honesty and integrity in their religious leaders. It should be no surprise that they also expect Obama to have those qualities. He does not. He has not earned our respect nor our admiration.

Pendergast
Salt Lake City, UT

Could it be the DN is all for inciting the base (Religion is under attack, Mitt is wonderful, byu is a legacy program, Obama is a muslim socialist yada yada yada)?

Anti Bush-Obama
Chihuahua, 00

Because he is a Gadianton Robber. He works for and wants to overthrow the freedoms of people everywhere. He is mereley carrying out what past presidents started. Pretending to be against it with his words but not his actions.

RedWings
CLEARFIELD, UT

I find less and less of a correlation between the doctrines of my faith (LDS) and either political party.

Republicans seem to not understand charity and helping their neighbor. During the last presidential election, I actually heard someone at church discussing Ayn Rand! To even attempt to equate an atheist like Rand to Christ is unbelievable to me.

Democrats have lost me in the headlong rush to embrace immorality and secularism in all its forms. Rampant pornography, and the US AG's refusal to enforce existing laws, have made it clear that the democtratic party has no room for me in its "tent" anymore.

Equating political platform with religious doctrine is not easily done. The Church's letter at election time reminding us that the "tenets of the Gospel can be found in the platforms of all major political parties" is true.

Lastly, I pray for the time when members stop thinking that Glen Beck has any special knowledge because he is LDS. He speaks only for himself and his wallet...

Craig Clark
Boulder, CO

Why do members of the LDS Church disapprove of President Obama?

It has little to do with Obama personally so much as the political disposition instilled in Latter-day Saints by a century of General Authorities using the pulpit to make political conservatism virtually a tenet of the faith. An LDS anti-government mindset goes back to the 1800s when the Church was at odds with and at time in outright defiance of civil authority.

mightyhunterhaha
Kaysville, UT

@ Ernest T Bass and Irony Guy

Believe what you want but history will show Obama as one of the worst Presidents in U.S. History. Bush had his faults but he will not be among Obama and Carter. History will record Bush as a mediocre President.

Anti Bush-Obama
Chihuahua, 00

Irony Guy

Obama wanted to invade Syria and probably will when the mid terms are over and he's the most dangerous. He overthrew Lybia and replaced it with a much worse Government.

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

I'm not a Mormon but isn't it obvious?

Mormons are fiscally responsible and yet barack has added more to the national debt than almost all past presidents combined, and he will have reached that mark before he leaves.

He promised he'd cut the deficit in half in his first term - he increased it

He promised the most transparent presidency and had done the exact opposite.

Mormons expect honesty - and barack has been anything but that.

Craig Clark
Boulder, CO

Why are the views of Catholics not represented in this poll? Seems a glaring omission to me.

riverofsun
St.George, UT

When first moving to Utah many decades ago, we were sadly surprised at the non diverse makeup of the state. Utah was so very different than most of the US.
Our's and other's older relations, still living during the 1960s, 1970s and 1980s, were sharing their very angry vocal intolerance concerning the changes in diversity throughout the nation.
Very loud and vocal rants were witnessed and heard by younger members of their families.
This made so many newcomers to Utah so very uncomfortable and sad hearing such hatred.
Appears, unfortunately, that many middle aged and younger Utahns listened to what their grandparents had to say, and took it to heart.
The last few years of comments on the DN boards, greatly support this historical fact of Utah's past.

JoeCapitalist2
Orem, UT

Obviously the only reason Mormons dislike Obama is because the church is full of racists, right? There can't possibly be any correlation between his unpopularity among largely conservative Mormons and all the lies he has told, his big goverment policies, and his incompetence in doing his job.

There have been so many that I have lost track of all the "phoney scandals" where Obama has feigned outrage, promised to "get to the bottom of the problem", and then done everything he can to cover it up.

ordinaryfolks
seattle, WA

Of course LDS members don't like Obama. Societal and church pressures make it incumbent on Mormons to vote in lockstep.

Grown up religious sects don't need to enforce conformity. Dissent keeps leadership on its toes, and responsive. One day this will be the LDS value.

FreedomFighter41
Provo, UT

Because Obama is a Democrat.

Mormons are taught sometimes by members at church and all the time through conservative media that Democrats are evil and Republicans are good.

If Obama had been labeled a Republican, we wouldn't have any problem with him. The truth is, Obama is far more conservative than. Mitt Romney.

It's that simple.

There You Go Again
Saint George, UT

The majority of leadership of the LDS Church is Republican.

The majority of membership of the LDS Church is Republican.

Your standing in the LDS Church is questioned if you are not a Republican.

Your standing in the LDS Church is questioned if you watch/read/listen to anything other than approved Republican Party/FOX News/Drudge sources of information.

And the DN asks why members of the LDS Church, in the United States, disapprove of President Obama?

Riverton Cougar
Riverton, UT

@Earnest T. Bass,

"On Obama's worst day, he's still significantly better than Bush was on his best day."

You're talking about golf, right? Because that's certainly not true of presidential responsibilities.

@steamroller

"First, their champion Mitt Romney lost to him."

That could contribute, but isn't anywhere near being a leading factor.

"Secondly, most LDS members are sheep in the sense that there was once a notion presented by one of the hierarchy of the church that you can't be a good Mormon and a Democrat at the same time."

There is more truth to the good Mormon/Democrat thing than you care to admit. The church does chime in on political issues if they're moral issues, and each and every time the Democrats are on the wrong side of the issue. Plus there are issues like financial well-being and self-reliance that are at odds with Democrat policies. I know liberals who have left the church because it got in the way of their political views. Never heard of a conservative leaving for that reason.

We should pray for Obama (we should pray for everyone), but it doesn't make him right.

The Real Maverick
Orem, UT

Simple.

Obama beat Mitt Romney.

So of course we're gonna dislike Obama.

65TossPowerTrap
Salmon, ID

This Mormon voted for him twice. Let's be honest, many Mormons are very conservative to the point of being irrational.

Mister J
Salt Lake City, UT

to JoeCapitalist2 moments ago...

Yet, true believers deify the Free Market and overlook the incompetence/greed of Mitt, Wall St, & their ilk in 2007 & 2008.

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