A part of me is not wanting the Jazz to match this offer. I mean he is a solid
role player but I do not see him as an Allstar worthy of a max deal. It would be
Andrei all over again. Fans will want him to grow better than this and this may
be his limit. Not to mention he can not be a clutch go to guy. that is in my
If Hayward doesn't want to be in Utah, let him go. This smells so much
like the AK deal. He's good but max contract worth? Highly doubt it.
This is a bidding war gone wrong. Another reason to focus outside of the NBA.
Keep him...the SA Spurs will benefit.
@forgetyourself & @AI Cougar Actually no it is not an AK
deal. The new CBA has shorter contracts. AK's was 6 years and this is 4
years with a player option for just 3 if Hayward opts out. This still allows
cap space to sign Burkes and Kanter when the time comes. So, it is not the same
as the AK deal at all.The Jazz will likely match simply because they
essentially need to spend the money to be near the league minimum or they get
nominal fines. The alternative option is to sign a salary dump like a Biedrins
to sit on the bench. Would you feel better about giving the additional 4-5
million/year over what Hayward is obviously worth to a guy to sit on the
bench?They basically have to sign him because they can't afford
to let him go for nothing. Clearly multiple teams were interested in talking
big money with him which means his market value is close even after poor
shooting last season so he probably is tradeable should the Jazz decide to do so
in a year or two if he does not improve.
What about the 15% trade clause in the contract. That would hurt the Jazz if
they opt to trade him down the line. Also, the 4th year player option hurts, if
he turns out to be a bust - it could be a Raja Bell scenario all over again.
This match is iffy, but looks like it would be better to match than to lose him
for zero dollars. The only other option is a sign and trade with Charlotte or a
multiple team trade, bringing in someone similar or better than Gordon. But I
don't know who that might be. Let's see if Lindsay can pull another
rabbit out of the Jazz hat.
Whichever team he ends up with (probably ours), all eyes will be on every
mistake or hesitation he makes with so much criticism on top of him. Is his skin
thick enough to handle that pressure? I hope he can play beyond these
expectations of not deserving these $$$. I'm excited anyway for the games
to get started to see what we indeed have.Go Jazzboys!!!
@panamadesnews I'm not necessarily saying it is the absolute right
decision...just not equivalent with the magnitude of the AK deal. Ian Thorpe of ESPN says "..Gordon Hayward is the biggest winner in free
agency..." When asked who is the biggest loser in free agency he said:"Thorpe: Whoever pays Hayward's salary. He is a nice player.
I'm a fan. But the odds of him playing into that kind of value are very
small. His team will struggle to recover down the road from this
mistake." It bothers me just on principle even more given the
fact that we are following Michael Jordans lead on a contract. He is known as
one of the worst owners/managers/NBA talent evaluators there is and we are going
to take on a decision/contract he made?Lindsey better be prepared
for some serious backlash if Hayward doesn't turn things around.
A max player is player you build a team around.and Gordon is NOT max
player that you build a team around.I mean is Gordon really like a
Duncan. or kobe or james or...IIf you tie up the money and a place
for Gordon, then you will mire the Jazz in mediocrity for years, only to try
rebuild again.Now if you could trade him for something worth
Sure he's being over paid for what he's demonstrated so far. However,
I'm all in favor of matching given the alternative options, all of which
are worse than matching.Unfortunately, there is not a line of top or
even middle caliber free agents hoping to sign with Utah--fans would be happier
if we weren't in denial about this.Also, this isn't
exactly a max deal depending on how you define max. There are a lot of players
who will be paid more than he will be, including non-franchise players. This
will only increase in the next couple of years.Assuming we sign, we
should then give him our full support.
Tim Duncan opted to accept the last year of his contract at 10.3 million. He is
not the best player in the NBA, but is the "best" player on the
"best team" in the NBA. Why would the Jazz even think of matching. Let
Charlotte have him and deal with his contract that they wrote up. The Jazz can
find a player that would be as good or better than Gordon and can also develop
some good players, and we will be all right. Just my opinion (I have the Larry
Miller mindset, sorry).
please Jazz, do not match this offer, major mistake! Let Hayward go, a max
contract isn't going to help him with his pouting, feel sorry for myself,
non shooting self.
Signing Hayward will not put jazz on a championship contender even a playoff
team. As much as I like him as a player, the contract is too much to absorb.
Might as well loose him than keep him and his contract will be a liability soon.
9 - 10 million will be more realistic on his caliber but not 15.