Published: Thursday, July 10 2014 12:00 a.m. MDT
Republicans can only win national elections when they can prevent Democrats from
It is fundamentally unAmerican to place these burdens upon the right of the
people to vote. Those politicians who in the name of vote integrity find ways
to suppress voter turnout ought to be declared enemies of democracy. That is
what they are . We have very little voter fraud in the country. The fraud is
not that someone might vote who is not a citizen. The fraud emanates from those
who would place substantial burdens on unwanted voters.Follow the
politics and the agenda of those who vote to, and propose a suppression, of
voters. That is the enemy of our country and the concept of democracy.
Great column by Mary Barker!Things have unquestionably gotten
better, even in the South, but to expect things to be completely healed is
naïve. My wife is African American, from the South, and we'll be
travelling back to see her mother and siblings later this month. I've met some older African Americans who still deeply distrust the
government, who keenly remember the Tuskeegee Experiements, who sense the gains
of equality may just be a veneer that hides much more powerful and currently
quiet racism.I've met Americans who witnessed members of their
own community lynched. Yes, these folks are very wary of not just getting
government ID, but of showing it to anyone outside their immediate social
circle.If Republicans genuinely believe voting fraud is rampant,
they should support a national Voter ID system, like Mexico has done in their
efforts to increase voter turnout. If we can shell out $4 Billion to better
secure the south border in an emergency situation, we can afford a national
voter ID program.The invective shown by Republicans reinforces old
Oh please Mary, take it back to Berkely. There is no voter suppression in
asking for the same thing that every cash checking store, car dealer, clinic,
library, airport, school, job, bank, police officer, loan officer, car rental
agency, furniture rental company, welfare officer, ect. ect. ect. ask for. To
ask that a person prove citizenship and eligibility, by proper ID, before using
the most important and only means of changing the country is the most patriotic
and common sense thing any reasonable citizen can expect. Many elections, even
Presidential, have come down to a few votes. Even ONE illegal vote is way too
many to allow. Not asking for ID to vote will result in the same thing that
Obama has caused by implying that if you get to America you can stay. Look at
the results. A mess.
So Was the last 2 Presidents elected? or NOT
And a big PS. The only real incident of voter suppression that has happened
recently was the Black Panthers standing near polls in Philadelphia to
intimidate voters. I notice the Justice Department and Eric Holder did not give
a darn about that. Yet they make up a false argument that an American citizen
should not be asked to show ID for voting, when everything else in America
requires one. Obviously the only reason Democrats don't want people to
show ID is because they are preparing to use illegals to throw elections.
Otherwise they would not have any qualms about ID.
Excellent article, Mary. Its just too bad happy people who are here are too
blind to see the truth.
Hmm. No mention of the IRS.
There may have been significant voter fraud in the 2012 election. The media
reported that in two counties in Ohio, the total votes cast exceeded the number
of eligible voters. In thirty-one counties in Ohio, voter "turnout"
exceeded 90%, Obama won 100% of the vote in 21 districts in Cleveland. Obama
received 99% of the vote in districts where GOP observers were removed.I'm not claiming that fraud only happened on the Democrat side. What
I'm claiming is that fraud occurred. For that kind of fraud to occur,
there has to be people behind the scenes formulating fraud and instructing
others on how to commit fraud. There has to be election officials who allow
ineligible voters to vote. It's not just the voter who committed fraud;
it's all the people who were involved and candidates who did not demand
investigation when their victory was suspect. You can draw your own
conclusions, but until things are totally cleaned up, no one can ever be sure
who really wins an election.
A recent news article spoke of an immigrant (did not say if she was legal or
not, but since she could not legally vote, I have to assume she was illegal) who
used a motor voter initiative to register to vote while she got her
driver’s license. She then illegally voted. The purges of voter rolls
and voter ID laws are necessary to prevent such incidents of voting fraud.You need ID to buy some types of over-the-counter cough medicines;
requiring ID to vote is NOT overly burdensome. Driver’s licenses
don’t cost any money; to say requiring state ID is burdensome is a blatant
lieAnd nowhere does Mary mention the overt racism of the black
panthers and similar groups – not that the existence of those thugs
excuses the actions of white racist thugs, but we should not forget that they
exist.Roland,Dems win national elections by: •lying about the GOP•registering illegal aliens to vote•voting early and often•intimidating white voters in Philly
and other similar places
Barker: "In striking down part of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, requiring
districts with a history of racial discrimination to seek preclearance before
changing election rules, Chief Justice John Roberts said, 'our country has
changed.'"I actually agree with Justice Roberts. Things
have changed, but not entirely for the better. As Barker noted, voting rights
violations have moved north. I would agree with the SCOTUS ruling striking down
federal oversight of voting in the old Confederacy, but only to the extent that
northern states are also engaged in voter suppression and also need oversight.
Congressional revision of the CRA should extend federal voting oversight to the
entire country, not just the South.
To lost in D.C.:"Roland,Dems win national elections by:•lying about the GOP•registering illegal aliens to vote•voting early and often•intimidating white voters in Philly
and other similar places"I've seen no evidence to support
your claims. Please provide some. There are fewer than a dozen documented cases
of in-person voter fraud in each of the past few national elections.
The Republicans are clearly desperate to suppress the votes of Democratic
voters. They even carelessly admit it (as in Pennsylvania). Absolutely no one is
fooled by the Republicans' righteous push to control nonexistent voter
fraud--themselves least of all.
Hearing republicans complain about "voting fraud" is funny considering
questionable voting methods and a few interesting phone calls from 41 and his
son who was the governor of Florida gave W the White House.
happy2bhere:Those "Black Panthers" were nothing but one guy
in a beret standing around outside a polling place. The only reason anybody
knew he was there was because Fox News chose to freak out about it.What strikes me about this whole argument how spoiled and self-entitled
conservatism has become in this country. Why bother trying to convince
Americans of the validity of your message when you can just live in your own
echo chamber and make excuses for losing elections instead?
@Mike Richards,I don't know what "media" reports you
are referring to, but Snopes debunks some of the allegations contained in your
post. You say in two counties in Ohio, the turnout exceeded the number of
eligible voters. Snopes says this is false. The official Voter Turnout
statistics for Ohio show Wood County recorded a total turnout of 64,342 voters
in a county with 108,014 registered voters. That's about 60% voter turnout.
I went to that official site to verify how many Ohio counties exceeded 90%. None
of them did.You say "Obama won 100% of the vote in 21 districts
in Cleveland (According to Snopes, the reported claim was Wood County, not
Cuyahoga County). Obama received 99% of the vote in districts where GOP
observers were removed." Snopes looked at the precinct-by-precinct breakdown
of the official voting results from Wood County. It determined that President
Obama received nowhere close to 100% of the votes cast in any of that
county's 97 precincts. The highest percentage he achieved in any one
precinct was 75.5%
Now it's bringing people her illegally and having them vote in exchange for
citizenship and welfare. That's all they advertise in Mexico on the TV here
is going to the United States and getting free welfare. Nothing at all is said
about better opprotunities because there are none.
@Mike Richards,(continued)Also, according to the Edward
McClelland, in 16 counties here in Utah, Mitt Romney's percentage of the
vote exceeded the 84 percent President Obama received in his hometown of
Chicago. Some small voting precincts here showed no votes for President Obama. I
think this accurately reflects political beliefs in Utah and is not evidence of
voter fraud. And I don't think the people of Ohio are less committed to
voter integrity than we are.
To sign up for insurance on the health exchange, my son was required to show
evidence of who he was, drivers license. Are all these posters telling us how
the requirement will suppress democrat voters, telling us they support democrat
voters not being allowed to purchase of obtain health insurance through the
exchanges. Was that not the purpose of the ACA. I love how we hear how the
Repubs must hate blacks and minorities, but forget the Repubs were the party of
the blacks in the south. The party continually attacked by the Democrat infused
KKK. The racists of today and yesterday are no more a par of the repubs today
than the KKK is part of Democrats today. Saying they are, is just
lying to the masses of illiterate voters to get their votes.
Mary Barker's article is an unsubtle attempt at beginning to inspire
minority voters for the upcoming 2014 and 2016 elections. We'll see
hundreds more just like this one, from liberal journalists, attempting to scare
voters to the polls. With so many Democrats dispirited (and less likely to even
bother to vote) by the pathetic performance of Barack Obama, this will be the
strategy to "fire up the base". It's much easier to point fingers
at "Republican meanies" than find any accomplishments or substance to
get out the vote.
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