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Polls provide 'political cover' for lawmakers to act, proponents say

Published: Wednesday, July 9 2014 5:56 p.m. MDT

Updated: Wednesday, July 9 2014 5:56 p.m. MDT

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Fitness Freak
Salt Lake City, UT

Read the article VERY carefully. You'll discover very easily who is behind this latest "push polling".

Its' not the first time lobbyists for cheap labor have used push polling - and it probably won't be the last.

Suggestion: do your own "polling" go to virtually any website that allows citizens to comment on illegal alien trespassers. Count the number who don't accept the idea of illegal trespassers - then (if you can find any) count the ones who do.

Why can't ALL the lobbyists for cheap labor just DROP IT; and pay their employees a decent wage?
Stop lying.

RichardB
Murray, UT

A TIPP poll, says 59 percent of voters who are closely following the border surge agree that "current administration policies and lack of focus on securing the border" are behind the crisis. One-third of political independents and Hispanics “strongly” blame the president. Six in 10 respondents say that unaccompanied alien children should be ordered to leave the country.

A new ËCNN/ORC International survey found that 62% of Americans say border security should be the main focus of U.S. immigration policy, while only 36% say a pathway to citizenship for illegal aliens should be the top priority.

A new CNN Poll found that 61% of Americans disapprove of the administration's handling of illegal immigration.

Gallop poll finds 65% disapprove of the way Obama is handling immigration. 75% also want legal immigration numbers to stay the same, or be decreased.

Earlier this week, Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto and Guatemalan president Otto Perez Molina held a joint press conference to formally announce a new program that will allow Guatemalan citizens to legally travel through Mexico in their effort to enter the United States illegally.

The worst thing we could do is pass reform with a President that refuses to enforce our laws.

techpubs
Sioux City, IA

I will agree that there is potentially a need to reform our current Immigration Laws.
1. We need to make it possible to deport these people as soon as they are identified as being here without any legal paperwork granting them permission to be here.
2. We also need to increase the fine for hiring them to $10,000 per person

1conservative
WEST VALLEY CITY, UT

Fortunately, most of America has figured out the little charade the amnesty advocates have tried to dump on the American public.

These guys want cheap labor and they want it fast.

They couldn't care less how they get it.

Light and Liberty
St. George/Washington, UT

This is simple. Charge every undocumented immigrant $3,000 to $5,000 each, secure the border, and get rid of Obama care, thus dis incentivizing coming here for free health care, and problem is solved. Oh, I forget, this is congress and the President we are talking about!

MormÓn de SunDevil Nation
Mesa, AZ

Don't over think it.... The Administration is playing from a script.... This is the "chaos" phase

RBB
Sandy, UT

Saying 91 percent want a change is not saying that 91 percent want to allow illegal immigrants to stay. My guess is 1/2 or more want stricter immigration laws or enforcement of the laws we have. The immigration system is broken because the President and the president before him have refused to enforce the law.

TRUTH
Salt Lake City, UT

Who cares about congress.....why is Obama given a pass?

Obama creates this mess.....make him own it!

A1994
Centerville, UT

Why? What changed? What is it that makes it so imperative that we 'act now' on immigration? And by the way, what does 'act now' entail? My idea of acting now means putting an absolute stop to anyone hopping the boarder. There is a good reason for a national border. Until someone has a specific plan for stopping the flow, I don't want any talk of amnesty.

Strider303
Salt Lake City, UT

There is an old saying that charity begins at home. We have a lot of unemployed and underemployed citizens who need the work being given to illegal aliens. Those who favor de facto open borders should sponsor one of these illegal aliens and assist them on the road to citizenship.

I auggest the people without proper entry documents be denied entry and let Mexico care for them. Mexico is not a poor country overall, but it lets these people cross their southern frontier and are therefore responsible and should be held accountable.

Folks, we can't cure the whole world, we need to focus on our citizens and their legitimate needs first.

These people will be a drain on us for at least one to three generations. Public health-wise this is a disaster waiting to happen as many have been exposed to serious communicable diseases and need screening to prevent outbreaks.

It's a tough world out there. If you want to ameliorate the poor conditions, organize a plan or join a program and pony up some of your money to support the cause.

Just because someone knocks at your door you do not have to open it.

DN Subscriber
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Changing our laws will not fix the problem.

The problem is that our laws are not being enforced now, and we can be certain the Obama administration will not enforce the new laws either.

There certainly are changes needed, but not the ones the amnesty advocates and liberal Democrats seek.

We need to repeal the "anchor baby" provisions. Repeal the multiple appeal process prior to deportation. Enhance the penalties for hiring illegals. Allow instant deportation for any illegal alien found within 25 miles of the border without any "due process" rights. Deny federal funding to any city that is a "sanctuary city" that refuses to enforce immigration laws. Prohibit any "refundable tax credits" to anyone not a U.S. citizen. End "chain migration" to unite families.

And, we need to enforce border security by whatever means necessary to stop people crossing into the United States illegally.

Legal immigrants are welcome, but illegal are not.

Rigged polls to produce the desired results to create news stories are not journalism, but propaganda.

carman
Wasatch Front, UT

Here is immigration reform:

1) Enforce current laws and secure our borders.
2) Ship any and all who enter the country illegally back to their country of origin, and take the costs out of the foreign aid that we provide to their country.
3) Create a work visa that brings those who LEGALLY come here can use to work in this country. Base the number of visa's issued on the number of workers needed and justified by an independent panel, and institute a lottery system by class of workers needed to determine who is given the visas. Limit to 3-5 years, and allow them to re-enter the lottery when their visa expires.
4) Tax the employer and employee of those with work visas to cover the full cost of their being here, including emergency medical, processing costs, and their fair share of the cost of maintaining police, fire, etc.
5) Citizenship should remain difficult to obtain. Allow for moderately more liberal "resident" status, but this would not include the right to vote.
6) Grant citizenship to newborns ONLY if their mother is a U.S. citizen. Otherwise the child could obtain only the status of the mother.

Brian Utley
Freedom, IN

A great strategy on the part of those within our government who are charged with executing our laws: Don't enforce the existing law...so that folks will think there are no laws or that the laws don't work. Then moan and groan because the legislative law makers don't change the laws to something the executors would rather enforce. It's called "tantrum" politics. We've seen it before. We'll no doubt see it again. I just wish we weren't seeing it this time...for the sake of all these misplaced, mistaken immigrants.

rph
Arlington, VA

The commentary of on this article reveals that a very small percentage of readers actually understand U.S. immigration law and its procedures, and what the president can and cannot do. I am astonished that so many think that President Obama is not enforcing U.S. immigration laws. What, I must ask, exactly do the people who say this think the federal employees working for the Department of Homeland Security's CBP, ICE, and other organizations do with their time, since they're apparently not enforcing federal law? Can the astute readers point out exactly what laws are not being enforced? Do these commentators have evidence or proof that the Obama administration has stopped deporting illegal immigrants, other than the bluster of political talking heads? Since when does the Affordable Health Care act grant free healthcare to illegal aliens? Did you know that many illegal aliens have been receiving free health care for decades because they cannot pay and that cost is passed onto the tax payer?

Very few of you know little, if anything, about U.S. immigration law beyond the inaccurate rhetoric of the Right. Please educate yourselves before repeating, and thereby perpetuating, popular falicies.

BU52
Provo, ut

They didn't poll me. My response would be that we won't know if we need to change the law until we actually enforce the existing law. Currently its like the pirate code, more of a suggestion.

mohokat
Ogden, UT

Reform? How about just enforcing the law and send a message that if you are caught here out of status you are immediately and without any phony hearings deported. These illegals have some form of a carrot dangling and always know that weak kneed politicians will give them a pass. These polls are phony just ask do you favor amnesty in any form and the result will be different.

Uncle_Fester
Niskayuna, NY

No nation can long survive without enforcing its laws and borders. Illegal immigration threatens the health, economy and sovereignty of our Nation. Illegal immigration is an affront to legal immigration. In Colorado an investigation by the Secretary of State's office was found that thousands of illegal immigrants attempted to vote and some of them succeeded. Our jails are full of illegals so much so that courts now need to address at trial the immigration consequences of any plea and failure to do so may result in reversal. Really? From the perspective of the average citizen this should not even be an issue. You commit a crime while a guest here, you are sent home, period. They should all be sent home anyway.

watchman
Salt Lake City, UT

It doesn't surprise me that such a high percentage say they want 'immigration reform' especially when one considers the recent invasion of illegals that keep coming across our southern border. Most people who are paying attention to what is happening realize that something has to be done.

All the talk about liberalizing our immigration laws and giving a pathway to citizenship, along with a president that has relaxed existing laws, is very likely the cause of the southern border invasion. These things open the door to the 'milk and honey' temptations that people of the third worlds see.

The sad thing is that so many of our citizen, church and business leaders have supported this travesty.

Is it any wonder that such a high percentage of those polled say that we need reform?

One only needs to read the comments on this article to get a truer poll.

SCfan
clearfield, UT

rph
Why don't you educate yourself by listening to the people who work on the border and what they say. They will tell you that the Obama administration has tied their hands to turn back these illegals. Remember when during Bush, ICE went after illegals who were working in the country. Bush told them to stop. When the minutemen went down to light up the border, Bush called them vigilanties. Don't even go there with trying to imply that both Bush and Obama have not been open border guys and ignored the written law. That's why we have this problem. No real obeying of the law by the previous administrations. You'd better do like Obama should have done and get out of that tax payer funded bubble you live in in Arlington and see what's happening in the real world.

Uncle_Fester
Niskayuna, NY

rph, while I appreciate what you are attempting to suggest, what people mean by "enforce the law" is to apply the penalties for unlawfully entering the country, deport people who do not belong here and generally act to secure the borders against continued abuse by non-citizens. Also, as a citizen I note that I don't want to support the costs of health care for non-citizens who are here illegally. The law and enforcement provisions are found in U.S.C. and the C.F.R. Surely you don't suggest that illegally entering the country is not something a sovereign nation has a right to prevent. Prevention and expulsion is what is meant by "enforce the law."

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