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Published: Friday, July 4 2014 6:56 p.m. MDT

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Uteology
East Salt Lake City, Utah

The reason Sebastian Telfair got a free agent contract has nothing to do with his stats from last year in China.

It's the fact that he is a proven 13 year NBA veteran. It seems Dick (aka Jimmer fan) left that fact out when he tried to compare and validate Jimmer's NBA qualifications. A better comparison would have been Telfair's NBA career.

Pearl.94
Riverton, UT

Jimmer's defense is not as bad as people think. He plays better D than James Hardin. Somebody needs to give him a decent chance.

JinaYi87
Norman, OK

Telfair is not a 13 year veteran: He was drafted in 2004 (Which was only...10 years ago). And has moved teams pretty much every year. OKC is like his 10th team. So no one really seemed to think he was indispensable. He has had 6 NBA seasons shooting below 30% from 3. And pretty much no other redeeming qualities. Not gawdy numbers. So yes, let's compare Jimmer to Telfair's NBA career; there was a reason Telfair was in China: 47% > 30% from 3.

Is Jimmer NBA quality? Who knows. I think it would be cool if OKC picked him up. I have no idea what Sam Presti is thinking getting Telfair. Awful pickup in my opinion. I think most of us for OKC would way rather have Jimmer. He could shore up Sefolosha's dip in shooting.

jazzhater
Humble, TX

This article pinpoints my opinions on the Jimmer situation. He's by no means an all-star, or a starter, but he's better than a lot of guys in the league. I hope he gets another shot, Ute fans comments notwithstanding.

Oh, Pearl.94 - I'm from Houston and a Rockets fan...your assessment on the Beard is accurate.

Uteology
East Salt Lake City, Utah

@JinaYi87

Is Jimmer NBA quality? Who knows.

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How about the coaching staff of Kings and Bulls not to mention most NBA scouts and experts.

My bad, Telfair indeed has 10 years of NBA experience averaging about 21 minutes per game as mostly a journey man. He's a role player, which apparently is in demand in the NBA. We will see if they think Jimmer is NBA quality in a similar role.

But my statment still holds, Telfair wasn't offered a contract for his game in China. No idea why Dick used those stats.

Cougar Nation, the reason Jimmer is still a free agent is not due to lack of shooting skills, it's everything else:

“I think Jimmer is a terrific open shooter. He has an offensive skill-set. He has the desire. [But] Jimmer Fredette has never shown that he can do all that much in the NBA,” a veteran NBA scout told Breitbart Sports. Fredette, he explains, lacks the physical attributes required to play at an elite level in the NBA. “Where’s the strength? Where’s the foot quickness? Where’s the length? He’s way down in the equation physically in the NBA.”

Y-Ask-Y?
Provo, UT

I've said it before, and it will say it again: Jimmer is overrated.

jazzhater
Humble, TX

He didn't use his stats from China. He just mentioned that he played in China last year. The stats he used we're from the last time Telfair was in the NBA

Uteology
East Salt Lake City, Utah

@JinaYi87
"So yes, let's compare Jimmer to Telfair's NBA career; there was a reason Telfair was in China: 47% > 30% from 3."

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There's a reason why Sacramento couldn't even get a "bag of chips" for Jimmer, and had to cut him.

I find it funny that Jimmer fans are ripping Telfair, a nine year NBA veteran whose was traded to (aka whose skill set was in demand by) several NBA teams during his career.

From what I have read Telfair was brought into OKC to provide more depth at the point guard. As a Jimmer fan you should already know Jimmer can't play the point. If not let me remind you what experts have said:

"Jimmer Fredette will be in Europe in a year or two. He has no future in the league. None. He can't create his own shot, he has a hard time coming off screens for a shot and he's not a point guard."

Uteology
East Salt Lake City, Utah

@jazzhater

He didn't use his stats from China. He just mentioned that he played in China last year. The stats he used we're from the last time Telfair was in the NBA

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I stand corrected, apologies to Dick!

Captain L
Provo, UT

The BYU/LDS haters don't have a problem bashing Jimmer, it isn't based on facts just on hate. Jimmer hasn't been given a truely good opportunity ,and if he does get one he will produce, he isn't a great or even a good defensive player but he's not so bad he can't be used. Those who hate him ignore the facts, his shooting is among the elite and he just needs a coach and team that chooses to use him properly. Jimmer can put the ball on the floor and create both for himself and for others, if he gets the chance he'll show it.

BigMagoo
Layton, UT

@Uteology

So, the scout said: "Where's the strength? Where's the foot quickness? Where's the length? He's way down in the equation physically in the NBA."

Here are some combine stats of him compared to other "athletic" guards that nobody mentions:

Jimmer:
Bench Press: 14 reps
3/4 court sprint: 3.21 secs
Agility: 10.42 secs

Deron Williams:
Bench Press: 15 reps
3/4 court sprint: 3.25 secs
Agility: 10.83 secs

Chris Paul:
Bench Press: 10 reps
3/4 court sprint: 3.22 secs
Agility: 11.09 secs

Damian Lillard:
Bench Press: 13 reps
3/4 court sprint: 3.34 secs
Agility: 11.15 secs

If the accusations of being to weak or slow are correct, then what are these 3 all-stars doing in the league? Did they jog through the combine? The only other explanation is that despite the preconceived notions, Jimmer is one of the faster and stronger guards in the league.

Jimmer needs a consistent chance, but everybody goes by these untrue accusations about his athleticism, size, and defense. And when he's out of the NBA, Ute fans will continue to ignore these facts and stick to the narrative that the best Cougar ever was too small and slow for the NBA. Now at least you know.

ekute
Layton, UT

Da Bulls will gladly trade Jimmer, Boozer, Brewer and a couple of draft picks for the Beard.

Y-Ask-Y?,
Only in happy valley is Jimmer overrated. Everybody else knows that he's going to Europe or a coaching job in Glens Falls or at LPHS.

Henry Drummond
San Jose, CA

With his long-range shooting skill there is a place for Jimmer in the NBA. Still, I wouldn't play hard to get. Blaming poor teams and bad coaches is wearing thin. Four coaches on two teams have limited Jimmer's minutes because of poor defense. That can be fixed. Get it done.

Brio
Alpine, UT

The anti-BYU commenters are so predictable that its almost funny. The is absolutely nothing Jimmer could do to warrant a positive comment from any of them. They will never get over the humiliation he laid on their team. Therefore, their criticisms need to be taken with a grain of salt and then discarded afterwards.

Sacramento has (or had) one of the worst coaching staffs in professional basketball. They make Tyrone Corbin look like a genius in comparison. My high school coach seemed more competent.
Chicago simply had no room for him when he landed there so late in the season.

Jimmer is still one of the best shooters in all the NBA. And his defense is rated better than literally half of the current Jazz roster. On top of that, he's a genuine class act... unlike many of his detractors. He'll definitely end up somewhere in the NBA.

Uteology
East Salt Lake City, Utah

@BigMagoo

If the accusations of being to weak or slow are correct, then what are these 3 all-stars doing in the league? Did they jog through the combine? The only other explanation is that despite the preconceived notions, Jimmer is one of the faster and stronger guards in the league.

Jimmer needs a consistent chance, but everybody goes by these untrue accusations about his athleticism, size, and defense

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Ben

You'll have to ask the 29 NBA teams that would not trade with Sacramento if they are true or not. I just quoted you what was said.

Uteology
East Salt Lake City, Utah

@Captain L

The BYU/LDS haters don't have a problem bashing Jimmer, it isn't based on facts just on hate.

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You mean like the fact that not a single NBA team would trade for Jimmer?

The fact that everyone, including the Jazz, would love to have Jabari Parker?

Hopefully, Parker signs with the Jazz after his rookie contract. Maybe by then Jimmer fans have will have excepted reality.

Rockarolla
West Jordan, UT

May be time for Jimmer to hit the road to Europe or Aisa. He's a good player and just needs to find the right team. Either way, he probably made more money last year than most of us and is a heck of a young man.

FT1/SS
Virginia Beach, VA

At least they allowed him to put LDS BULLS on his jersey. Prior to his draft, this is pretty much where I thought he would be after his first contract. Great guy, but just dos'nt have the overall skills.

sammyg
Springville, UT

The Ute obsession for Jimmer is palpable.

By the way... Jimmer got standing ovations up and down the parade route in Provo yesterday.

He's already done what most Ute fans said he couldn't... make it to the NBA.

I wonder when the U of U will do what the 'fans' said it would do in football in the PAC 10?

I think I'll humor myself and watch a Youtube of Jimmer vs. U of U.

It will forever be an all time classic. Just the half court shot was amazing enough.

Man in Charge
Chihuahua, 00

Brio

"Sacramento has (or had) one of the worst coaching staffs in professional basketball. They make Tyrone Corbin look like a genius in comparison. My high school coach seemed more competent.
Chicago simply had no room for him when he landed there so late in the season."

And if a next team signs him ,it will be their fault that he can't get off the bench and so on and so fourth. It's never Jimmers fault, it's always the teams fault right? Minutes in the NBA aren't given, they are earned.

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