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Published: Monday, July 7 2014 12:00 a.m. MDT

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ordinaryfolks
seattle, WA

And just which political party does not approve of closing Guantanamo?

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

In MY opinion: Fate of the Guantanamo Bay prison needs to be resolved
by Bush/Cheney and ALL the Repulicans responsible for it promptly.

BrentBot
Salt Lake City, UT

Guantanamo should remain open to house all combatants until their faction (Al Quaeda, Taliban, Syrian/Iraqi fighters) cease hostilities. Why should we treat these combatants any differently than we treated enemies previously? These terrorists should not be accorded the luxury of a civilian court. And we shouldn't be giving them medical care better than we give to our Veterans in the VA.

Obama should be tried for treason for releasing five Al Quaeda leaders in exchange for an Army deserter.

Esquire
Springville, UT

This editorial makes sense and is correct (with one exception). The right wing needs to stop their abuse of Constitutional principles. Either provide a trial to the detainees or send them home. Enough already.

So, the wrong thing is the face-saving, bone toss to the right wing about "the release of five Taliban commanders being held there in exchange for U.S. Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl." It was the right thing to do. Period.

dave4197
Redding, CA

close Guantanamo, give the place back to Cuba, get out
send the prisoners somewhere else, US military prisons preferable
give the Cubans back their land, we don't need it strategically or otherwise
end Guantanamo as a US place

JBQ
Saint Louis, MO

As a Navy veteran, you have to look at this issue in the context of a war. These are prisoners of war and do not have the same rights as someone who "jaywalks" Soldiers in our military can be tried under the UCMJ and then again in civilian courts for crimes in the community. I served on a ship where two sailors were convicted of murder. Once their time in prison in South Carolina is done, then they can be charged again by the U.S. military. It is important for the security of the United States for these individuals charged with heinous crimes to be taken to a military tribunal first and then if necessary taken to a civilian court. German military criminals were tried at Nurenberg in a military court and then in most cases, they were hanged. It is just plain wrong to bring radical Islamists into the American civil justice system.

The Rock
Federal Way, WA

Trying enemy combatants in civilian courts is a nice idea, but it is totally unworkable.
When the police arrest somebody, they cordon off the crime scene and carefully gather evidence so they can build a case in court. The military does not have that option. The battle itself will probably destroy much of the evidence or at least taint it.

It can take years to bring such as case to trial in civilian court. The storage of evidence, availability of witnesses, etc. are all problematic. Military personnel get moved around a lot. It would be very costly to bring everyone together for a trial. Most people tried under these circumstances would be acquitted due to the above mentioned issues and others.

Terrorists are never in uniform. They always try to blend in with the local population. This is what spies do. Spies are executed.

Never in the history of this nation have constitutional rights been extended to enemies in war. Doing so now would be very foolish.

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Of course Guantanamo needs to be resolved. But so do a bunch of other things the are even harder to resolve. Like Terrorism, Poverty, Hunger, Education, Drug Addiction, Prostitution, Sin, War, man's inhumanity to man. Bush and Cheney weren't the start of all evil, and they can't resolve it.

Last time I checked... Obama has been president for two terms... and Guantanamo is still not resolved. So the Bush haters can't just blame it on him anymore. And it's not just Republicans either.

Google these headlines and read the truth...

"Democrats in Senate Block Money to Close Guantánamo" - New York Times

"Senate Democrats Reject Obama's Request for Funds to Close Guantanamo Bay Prison" - Washington Post

"Democrats on Capitol Hill Rebel Against President Obama's Guantanamo Bay Plan" - ABC

The blinded partisans who see anything and everything through the filtered lenses of their partisan stereotypes and their rhetoric inspired selective vision of reality... will see it as just a Republican problem, or just Bush's problem... but obviously that's not reality. It's not the whole story.

All this angst over 155 people.. who KILLED thousands in their own countries AND in America.

Irony Guy
Bountiful, Utah

Guantanamo is a stain on our constitutional republic. Try them in military courts, sentence them if they are found guilty, and close that concentration camp.

wrz
Phoenix, AZ

JBQ
"Once their time in prison in South Carolina is done, then they can be charged again by the U.S. military."

Not for the same crime. Says so in the US Constitution... 'nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb...'

"It is just plain wrong to bring radical Islamists into the American civil justice system."

Civilian court is much preferred by the Commander-in-Chief for jihadist criminals since he needn't sign a death warrant which would go contrary to certain teachings.

The simple answer to the problem is to just change the name from Gitmo to say... 'Rehab Camp for Wayward Jihadists.'

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

@BrentBot
Salt Lake City, UT

Why should we treat these combatants any differently than we treated enemies previously?

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1. We are no longer at "war".
2. per the Geneva Convention Article 118:
"Prisoners of war shall be released and repatriated without delay after the cessation of active hostilities."

If you ever want OUR POWs released,
then we must play by the same rules.

procuradorfiscal
Tooele, UT

Re: "Many of the issues surrounding the legal status of the Guantanamo detainees remain unsettled."

No they don't. The legal status of persons detained on the battlefield fighting against America is absolutely clear. Has been all along. There's not the slightest legal doubt.

It's the political status of reckless, feckless liberal politicians that is here at issue. And that issue is best presented as, "When will they lie down and accept the status of political carrion that they've so carefully earned and so richly merit?"

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

@LDS Liberal,

You REALLY think Terrorists have called a truce???

You really do have a strange (partisan inspired) sense of reality.

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Truth is... even if we withdraw our military... nothing is over. Terrorists are STILL looking for ways to harm infidels, especially Americans and Jews.

If you weren't aware of that fact... you need to get a better news source.

The people these detainees worked with in that past (and they people they would work with again IF released) have THIS VERY WEEK renewed their threats and desires to harm Americans anywhere and anytime they can! It's NOT OVER!

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You can go back to your pre-9/11 mentality and presume nothing's going on, because your hero has calmed everything... but these recent threats are specifically aimed at Obama (not Bush). So at least in THEIR minds... NOTHING has changed.

YOU can pretend it's over now... but it's not. Not by ANY stretch of the partisan imagination.

So go ahead and quote your rhetoric and the Geneva Convention... but this is different. These are NOT POWs. The conflict with AlQueda isn't over. It will NEVER be over (for them)...

Flashback
Kearns, UT

Let's get the Military Tribunals going and get the bad guys taken care of. Then we can close Gitmo until we need it again.

There You Go Again
Saint George, UT

"...In our opinion: Fate of the Guantanamo Bay prison needs to be resolved promptly...".

Or at least not until the Republicans have milked this issue for all its political worth.

Anti Bush-Obama
Chihuahua, 00

Never going to Happen as long as the current Government is in power. All they will do is just talk about closing it or close it and relocate it. Get the globalist out of power and it will really close.

Esquire
Springville, UT

@ Anti Bush-Obama, you can't be serious. This is much more than a partisan political issue or a reason to attack the current President. Republicans have fought resolution of this and threatened the President over moving prisoners (remember the proposal to move them to federal prisons?). The GOP was mad because of the recent prisoner exchange. I don't care what the rationalization is, this problem needs to be finally resolved. And to the extent any Democrats side with the GOP on this issue, I will say the same to them. Obama has wanted resolution for some time and the Washington establishment has said no. Cheap shots at the President serve no purpose whatsoever.

Brer Rabbit
Spanish Fork, UT

We could do like Vietnam where we declared victory and went home. Here all that we have to do is declare victory, which Obama has already done, and let them all go home to fight another day. That seems to be what we are headed for.

Anti Bush-Obama
Chihuahua, 00

Esquire

Once again. I am not a Republican. I despise them as much as the Democrats. Who made the rule that I have to be for one party or the other? I'm not even on the Bird. But I am smart enough to know that the Globalist control both parties in the United States. I know any talk about closing Guantanimo Bay is just talk as long as the Globalist are in power.

Swiss
Price, Utah

Open the Gates and let them out in Cuba. Then we will have a place to put all those crossing the southern border illegally. Great medical and housing facilities already prepared. One night when all is quiet pull out our people and leave the gates open.

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