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Published: Sunday, July 6 2014 12:07 p.m. MDT

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Hutterite
American Fork, UT

Anybody die from using cigarettes in the same time frame? Many times more than those that abused alcohol, I suspect.
You can pick who you want for demons. But it always feels to me that demons are picked because they are necessary to keep the flock in check.
Reality doesn't work that well. Ignore it.

ordinaryfolks
seattle, WA

I wish someone would explain to me why there are such stringent laws against marijuana, which is a much less toxic drug, while we have a rather lackadaisical attitude toward alcohol?

And nicotine is widely available, which is known to be another extreme health hazard.

Could it be because big Booze and big Tobacco have more political influence. Or is this just another example of selective outrage?

Drugs, booze and alcohol should be seen as public health problems. Our war on drugs has done nothing more than increase the prison population, while not lessening dependence on opiates or designer drug concoctions. There is no magic bullet to human failures. However, by now we should know that prison is the least attractive option.

What in Tucket?
Provo, UT

People who drink rationalize a lot. According to Medscape the medical online review journal there is no amount of alcohol that is safe. It is a carcinogen, cancer causing drug. A large study in England named it the most dangerous drug over heroin and cocaine. It is life shortening no doubt.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

"A report last month by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found that excessive alcohol use accounts for 1 in 10 deaths among working-age adults ages 20-64."

This means statistically speaking, if you drink, you run a 4200 percent greater risk of dying from alcohol poisoning than being killed with a gun (even in Chicago). And liberals want guns banned? The numbers speak for themselves; why would anyone with a brain drink alcohol?

Really???
Kearns, UT

Before I start, let me clarify that I don't drink. I, like many other residents of this state, have chosen not to drink based on the religious culture in which I was raised; the laws imposed on everybody doesn't make any difference in my choices.

I believe the real solution to this problem is to take a serious look at the causes of binge drinking. What can we do to reach out to our neighbors who are the most vulnerable and likely to over drink and the get behind the wheel of a car? I am glad to see some local companies offering free taxi rides for people on those holidays when people are most likely to drink more liquor.

I think we should see how our laws compare to those of New Jersey. That state, after all, is doing a better job at limiting alcohol-related deaths than Utah. I know one thing that state doesn't do--it doesn't create laws that stigmatize individuals who choose to have a drink with their dinner.

FT
salt lake city, UT

Oh the irony of the DN and it's loyal posters advocating society limit the use of alcohol for public health reasons but not strongly advocating affordable health care to our less fortunate citizens. Look around, obesecity seems to be a much bigger health care risk to Utahns than alcolhol. Maybe we should see a call to limit ice cream consumptions and all you can eat buffets?

Impartial7
DRAPER, UT

Obesity is the #1 killer in the US. I realize that donuts, soda & ice cream aren't taboo in Utah, maybe the Legislature should focus on that issue than continuing their heavy handedness on consumers of alcohol.

Owl
Salt Lake City, UT

Those who deflect the discussion on the public health problems of alcohol by talking about any other subject have misplaced their efforts. If one focuses on health care, air quality, tobacco, marijuana or obesity others can say, "Well, what about the alcohol problem?" Addressing one issue does not imply acceptance of other problems. Simply because we cannot solve everything at once don't mean society can't solve them sequentially.

southmtnman
Provo, UT

Mountain man:

"This means statistically speaking, if you drink, you run a 4200 percent greater risk of dying from alcohol poisoning than being killed with a gun (even in Chicago)."

You misrepresent the facts. Merely drinking alcohol does not put anyone at increased risk. It is the "abuse" ("excessive use") of alcohol that is the problem.

Responsible consumption is encouraged by responsible public education and reasonable regulations. Outlawing the purchase of alcohol on Sundays? What sense does that make?

carman
Wasatch Front, UT

To Hutterite:

I really hope that the DesNews will let me challenge your post on the basis that it is 1) irrelevant to the topic 2) just another pot-shot at organized religion and a thinly veiled attack on the LDS Church.

Addressing alcohol abuse has NOTHING to do with keeping "the flock in check". It is a serious problem that destroys peace in families, causes thousands of innocent deaths on our nation's roads each year, ruins lives and causes untold harm to the brain and liver, and contributes significantly to obesity, heart disease, gout and diabetes. These are facts.

I am glad that many are awakening to the damage that unbridled consumption of alcohol causes. It has nothing to do with religion, except to those who want to twist every discussion into an opportunity to address their pet cause...

FT
salt lake city, UT

@southmtnman
I have found those conservatives that cry the loudest about goverment intrusion are the first to try to limit the freedoms of others. What they seem to encourage is freedom to be only just like them.
One of my most cherished memories was having a drink with my 93 year old grandfather on the afternoon of his wife of 55 years funeral. Grandpa had several drinks a day well into his 90's before passing. A tradition that I have carried on for over 30 years while maintaining great health thru proper diet and excercise.
Education and respect of alcohol can lead to most people responsibily using the drug. Conservatives fear and mis-information campagin is the wrong way to go.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

@ FT: Every alcoholic I have ever known (unfortunately I have known far too many) thought he was "drinking responsibly"! Evidently, one in ten will die from "responsible drinking"! The best advise ever given me about drinking was; never, never take your first drink! The fact still remains that out of 10 people who choose to drink, one will die from it! That is not misinformation. What is gross information is that drinking alcohol is harmless and is "fun". I wonder if we would accept those odds with anything else we choose to do for "fun"?

JSB
Sugar City, ID

A few of suggestions:
1) Raise taxes on alcohol--a lot. Alcohol taxes should be high enough to pay the social costs of alcohol abuse.
2) If not permanent revocation of all driving privileges, at least a much higher fine for drunk driving and a few years of no driving privileges.
3) Publish the names and photos of people convicted of drunk driving and put it on line similar to the sex abuse convicts. Perhaps fear of adverse publicity will make people think twice.

Brave Sir Robin
San Diego, CA

@ordinaryfolks

"I wish someone would explain to me why there are such stringent laws against marijuana, which is a much less toxic drug, while we have a rather lackadaisical attitude toward alcohol?"

Great question. Here's the answer: Outlaw both of them.

carman
Wasatch Front, UT

Dear FT:

I am ok with alcohol in moderation for anyone who has not made a personal or religious commitment to not consume it. I have dined with friends and colleagues around the world who drink in moderation and responsibly. This is not, however, the only way that alcohol is consumed. Many people from all socioeconomic classes abuse alcohol to the detriment of themselves, their families and their communities. For those who won't or cannot drink responsibly, and it really doesn't matter which, it causes incredible heartache. Anyone who believes otherwise does not live in the real world. I have seen the problems associated with addiction, including alcoholism. It is devastating to anyone it touches.

FreedomFighter41
Provo, UT

And these same conservative posters claims that they're not trying to legislate morality?

Wow

marxist
Salt Lake City, UT

Your illustration makes we want a beer!

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

A Doctor friend of mine told me once that without alcohol, tobacco, and diabetes.. he would lose more than half of his patients. And by far the highest revenue generating of his patients.

But we are constantly told by some groups of people that we need to be more LENIENT.

They want marijuana legal everywhere. How do you legalize recreational marijuana use... but continue regulating Alcohol consumption, or maintain ANY laws that regulate harmful substances???

I'm pretty sure NOBODY abuses alcohol, or marijuana, or any other harmful substance in America today. (sarcasm) actually it's rampant, and becoming ever more and more accepted by society in general as the MTV generation gradually takes over.... I'm sure it will be for the better...

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

@marxist,

No, it's not the illustration's fault. It's your brain, and YOUR Pavlovian response to images like these that make you want beer.

Go get some if seeing an image of it makes you want it. You've been well trained. That's why beer commercials are so easy and effective. Just show some pretty people with beer... and some people will have to run out and get it.... It's like the sound of the ice cream truck for some people.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

FT
salt lake city, UT
@southmtnman
I have found those conservatives that cry the loudest about goverment intrusion are the first to try to limit the freedoms of others. What they seem to encourage is freedom to be only just like them.

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Perfect!
And that is why I take issue with them with just about everything they say and try to do.

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