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Published: Wednesday, July 2 2014 10:40 a.m. MDT

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bigv56
Cottonwood, CA

Expertise in one field doesn't always carry over to another. Com mom core is a joke and will have people screaming. Quit shoving vegetarianism down our throats.

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

Bill Gates is a Socialist and wants a Socialist solution to education which is that the Federal Government creates a one size fits all platform for all kids. As we have seen ANYTHING the federal government puts its hand to turns into sour milk (Obamacare) so Gates "common core" needs to be killed once and for all. Gates is known for his underhanded tactics in the business world as the CEO of Microsoft and the outright stealing of teachnology from Apple as well as the hundreds of other underhanded shady business dealings against Novell and other tech companies. I worked at Novell during those years and Gates and his illegal tactics are well documented. Bottom line - DO NOT TRUST BILL GATES for ANYTHING!! As for common core - Glenn Beck is on a crusade nation wide this summer to expose common core with a documentary he and The Blaze created showing in theaters across the nation. States across the nation are rejecting common core once they dig into this ugly thing and discover the fine print. Socialized medicene and Socialized education...the progressive way.

Kings Court
Alpine, UT

As a teacher, I'm getting sick and tired of these people who have never taught a classroom full of kids a day in their lives telling me how to do it. They lack any real credibility. There are certainly problems in education, but I've been teaching long enough to realize that much of those problems stem from a decayed culture, decayed family values, and lack of any accountability on the student in our education system. At least in most other countries, test performance has a direct impact on a student's educational future. In America, they are just data collection tools for everyone other than students and their teachers. It is just insane. Why would anyone take these tests seriously when they don't really mean anything to the test taker?

jsf
Centerville, UT

Oh no patriot you just invoked the name of Glenn Beck, who has no college education. Oh that's right neither does Bill Gates. Liberal criteria for opinion or understanding a college degree.

michaelitos
Salt Lake City, UT

Despite Mr. Gates faults, Common Core is as solid as they come. The standards are excellent! Just what we need to be able to compete on the global stage.

IQ92
hi, UT

I was told by a Utah university president that the organizations that change the slowest are religion and higher education.

Pac_Man
Pittsburgh, PA

@michaelitos

Standards are great, and raising them is even better, but improving standards without solving underlying issues is pointless.

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

re:michaelitos

"Drink'en the coolaide" it sounds like brother. As solid as they come huh? HA! What do you know about Common Core? Anything? This Federal "Obamacare-like" program is ANYTHING but solid and in fact it's math cirriculum is HORRIBLE. Yes I have seen it and read though it. The math cirriculum alone is enough to put this sorry beast out of its misery but throw into that toxic mix the inclusion of Socialist ideology into the English and Social Studies and you have a program so bad only the US federal govt could be responsible for. The REASON America is failing is BECAUSE of the Federal bureaucracy and you are begging for more? Name one Federal program that isn't a disaster of inefficiency and waste. Any? By the way - the US military is NOT the US government.

YouAreKidding
Salt Lake City, UT

Here are a few random ideas on how to reform education:

1) Eliminate the ESL program. Like common core, it is socialist-driven and is an excuse for students to under-perform,
2) Start handing out "F"s again in grades 1-8. The notion of an "N" (needs improvement) is ridiculous,
3) Hold kids back who don't pass their classes. Repeating a grade never killed anyone,
4) Adopt the policy of the State paying only for 13 years of education (K-12 grades). If you get held back in 4th grade (for example), the second year of 4th grade is on you and your parents. And, if you graduate from high school early, you get that many years of money from the State to use toward college. (Look, there's a consequence to both flunking school and excelling in school)...

Only by holding students and parents accountable for their decisions (yes parents-far too many parents are letting their kids get away with all of the nonsense that goes on in schools today) will education begin to improve. BTW, my wife is a teacher and I see firsthand through her and my own children what a mess the education system is.

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

"the most frightening words in the world are I'm from the government and I'm here to help"

Ronald Reagan

Shaun
Sandy, UT

Can anybody tell me without bias tell me what is wrong with common core? I hear people say it is horrible but specifically why is it bad and please refrain from saying it is socialist because that does nothing to educate somebody on why it is good or bad.

michaelitos
Salt Lake City, UT

@patriot
Actually, I know much more about the Common Core than you appear to. For example, you criticize the "math curriculum". However, curriculum is not included anywhere in the Common Core. The core represents a set of education standards that define what students should know and be able to do to as they move on to post-secondary training, college, or a career.

How you meet those standards (curriculum) is still very much the responsibility of individual teachers, districts, and even parents. If you had truly "read it" (meaning the Core Standards), then you would know this already!

From the USOE's website: "Common Core State Standards define what students need to know; they do not dictate how teachers should teach or how students should learn... Common Core does not dictate what lesson plans, programs, or textbooks teachers will use for curriculum. Local teachers, principals, superintendents and school boards will continue to make important decisions about curriculum and how their school systems are operated."

michaelitos
Salt Lake City, UT

@Pac_Man
I actually agree with you whole-heartedly. But we have to start somewhere, and a set of standards that emphasize college and career readiness is better than nothing. Thanks for the comment.

the truth
Holladay, UT

Any one who does their honest research on common core knows it is more a than about standards.

The devil is in the details.

The worse thing is it is a gate way for the federal government to get more control over your schools and your children, and over education.

Education should and must be locally controlled.

Students are not all the same and should not be treated the same. but common core does this, to the lowest common denominator, turning schools into factories and all students into just a some widget who are all the same. it is set for failure.

Common core materials from tests to reading materials are filled and loaded to the brim with leftist propaganda.

These are just a few of the problems. The extreme left dictating "standards" will never be a good thing.

gittalopctbi
Glendale, AZ

Yes, education reform is difficult, Mr. Gates. And it becomes even *more* problematic when people like you who have lots of money to throw around think that they have the answers. But you don't.

Just goes to show you that sometimes, self-made mil/billionaires let their success go to their heads and now they are the world's panacea to all problems whether they know anything about it or not. Like the teacher posted above, it is frustrating and infuriating when people who have never spent time in a classroom teaching think they have the answers.

Howard Beal
Provo, UT

Bottom line, teachers are confused and overwhelmed by the constant "innovations" in education. They are also overwhelmed about stupid policies that don't hold parents or students accountable for attendance and behavior. Teachers are also overwhelmed by the number of students they generally have to teach and the non-stop paperwork required of them by their districts and state legislatures. Teachers are further discouraged by the general lack of pay, respect and shrinking of benefits but yet the workload increases. Finally, teachers are discouraged that they are the one force on the battle lines of education that basically gets ignored when it comes time to talk reforms.

Long Lost America
Salt Lake City, UT

@gittalopctbi

Thank you for your insight, Best post of the day.

Larene
Cedar City, UT

Education is improving in Charter schools, Private schools and Home Schools. The only place it is getting worse is Public Schools. Who is stopping true educational reform in public schools? Teachers unions of course. We need to empower teachers and parents with school choices. We have great teachers in our states and many of them have great ideas they are not allowed to implement. We need more choices and less government intrusion and we would be amazed at the imptovement that would follow.

LoveBoxesCkTops
Kaysville, UT

Bill Gates is a man whose values couldn't be much farther from Utah values. His money has funded more abortions than almost anyone in the world. He believes in population control and shrinking the population 10-15%. A wise man would consider his leader before he follows.
Yet, our Governor welcomes this eugenicist and his loathsome views into the state with open arms by signing Utah up for his "education reforms" without any real public consideration.

In two years it has done a great deal to destroy the math competency of our state. Kids who loved math, hate it. Parents and teachers are frustrated. And, during the interim session the State Board of Education warned that without significant investment (lots more money) for professional development (teacher training) Common Core math would fail. Wake up Brenda Hales! It has failed already.
It is separating our students from our traditions, our literature, our values and our history by replacing literature with politically correct informational text. We trade Robert Frost for Robert Reich and the teachings of social justice. We trade Henry Davis Thoreau for Al Gore.
Governor Herbert, Utah students deserve better. Get Utah OUT of Common Core!

Pac_Man
Pittsburgh, PA

@michaelitos

I think we agree on a lot of things. College-bound students need to be more prepared but the barrier for most seems to be cost. However, I think it is those who are not heading to college without marketable skills who need our attention.

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