It seems like the majority of the fans agree that while Hayward normally does
provide some reasonably good stats, he really isn't a go to guy in the
clutch and that he also really isn't worth bringing back if his agent gives
the FO a poison pill (max contract) to swallow. Personally I'd have no
problem letting him walk, especially if he does a moneygrabber. In general the
guy just comes across way as being way too timid. He's just the opposite of
a player like Malone that liked to stand up to any kind of NBA bullying and even
deliver plenty of his own personal punishment when push comes to shove at the
end of the game. Or a player like D Williams, all the great Jazz players had a
really gritty toughness for digging out a win. Stockton once said that he'd
rather cut of a finger than a lose a game. To me Hayward is the kind of player
that gets beat up by the other kids on the play and then needs to go home to mom
and have her make it all better.
I agree with Tinn- GH is a good compliment player to work off of other good
players. He hustles all the time on the court so no complaints on attitude and
not giving it his all-he does- but NOT to break the bank on please. I wonder if
even he doesn't agree with that. So if getting all he can for him and his
fam. then good luck at looking a pressure biting in the behind, and you wishing
you were still with the Jazz family making 10 mill. a year and loving the
direction we're going !
I am worried that we may have another Andrei Kirilenko scenario. He is not worth
the full payout since he is not consistent at all. I like him for the right
price, but not for the full payout. I have a feeling that if he leaves Utah, he
may do better in other markets like Arizona and that is why the Jazz are afraid
of letting him go.
Looks like the Jazz are learning. Jazz let the "market decide" on Mo
Williams, Millsaps and the fellow that went to Portland. Jazz pretty much know
what Hayward wants so hopefully this contract will reflect that otherwise expect
another team to offer him a bunch.AK47 never quit playing hard. He
should be still playing for the Jazz. The Jazz turned the team over to Williams
and Boozer and blamed AK for all their shortcomings.
The "rumors" that the Jazz are going to match could just be a sly
negotiating ploy by the Jazz, to try to scare other teams away from offering a
max deal. If the Jazz wanted him for a max-type deal, they could have had him
last season. His play this season was OK but certainly should not have
increased the Jazz's desires to have him back for a max contract. If he
indeed gets a max-type deal from another team, I'm not certain that the
Jazz will match. The Jazz, however, are so far under the cap that they may
overpay for him and then get a lot of cheap players at other positions.
Do people honestly believe the Jazz are going to bring back Carlos Boozer to
rescue Chicago from their salary cap problems? Sorry Bulls, he's all yours
On Sportscenter, as ESPN was projecting what it would take to resign their Big3,
I saw Hayward pop up in the SG list with his projected salary. They project his
salary at $10.5 Million, which I think is about right. I even asked a few
friends at work who are into hoops (I live in San Diego) what they think Hayward
is worth. They say about about $9-11 Million, but definitely not Max. They think
he's a good player, but not a star yet. So I'm curious to see if
Phoenix/Boston will actually offer him a Max contract. They too have to consider
the risk of tieing up their Salary Cap. The Jazz should definitely match any
offer, and frontload it since they still doesn't hurt them now. He would be
at minimum a good trade asset. It would also be awesome if they could somehow
land Chandler Parsons. He's a great 2 way player and would be perfect for
the Jazz. If Bulls amnesty Boozer, I bet Jazz pick him up as a backup PF. He
would be cheap for a year. Let's see what happens..
Alpiner"Still don't understand why they let Millsap
go."Maybe he wanted to go. Nobody knows for sure.
I wouldn't give him a max deal. I hope they make the deal frontloaded so
they can keep some of their other players when the time comes.
Those who can't stop singing Hayward's praise are simply forgetting
history. Rewind back several years and look at Andrei Kirilenko. I encourage you
all to look at Andrei's stats before he received his max contract.
I'll give you a spoiler, they are very very similar to Hayward's. Both
averaged 16 pts a game on a bad team. Kirilenko though shoot a superior FG
percentage. How scary is that??? Hayward shot 41 percent from the field last
year, Kirilenko consistently shot over 44. Rebounds, assists, and on down the
line they are similar. How did Kirilenko's contract work out? Was he worth
his max deal? I think everyone knows the answer to that. I fear sometimes we are
blinded by Hayward because he's a nice, clean cut, white guy that is a nice
basketball player. But let's not kid ourselves, just like Kirilenko, we
WILL regret giving him a max deal. It will set the franchise back years
financially and keep us in the lottery.
Still don't understand why they let Millsap go.
Basketball is a many faceted game.....and Hayward has the best total command of
all those facets I've seen in a long time.....He can pass, shoot, rebound,
defend, steal, block shots, and do them all well. Last season, he was the focus
of opponent's defenses, and he still managed to lead the team in scoring
and steals and finish in a virtual tie with Burke for the team lead in
assists....To have a "shooting" guard lead the team in assists is
notable, and it indicates Hayward's "team first" attitude...In my
opinion, it would constitute a major mistake to let this kid get away.
Kent Bazemore of the Lakers is a free agent and he was defensive leader in his
conference in college and last season he averaged above 13 ppg. Seems he might
be able to play Jazz style game of defending as well as having a stroke on the
ball.Hayward loves the attention he is getting but he was
disappointing last season as a go to guy. HE lacks the Kobe killer instinct but
I hope he can figure a way to stay with the Jazz.