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Published: Tuesday, July 1 2014 12:00 a.m. MDT

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Twin Lights
Louisville, KY

No, no, no. It was a nice cool (insert month here) in (insert obscure place here). So that can't possibly be true.

And there don't forget the global conspiracy to promote man-made climate change by the nascent green energy companies. The poor oil companies can't possibly compete to get their message out.

Hayden, ID

Sorry Global Warming Alarmist– Climate change itself is already in the process of definitively rebutting climate alarmists who think human use of fossil fuels is causing ultimately catastrophic global warming. That is because natural climate cycles have already turned from warming to cooling, global temperatures have already been declining for more than 10 years, and global temperatures will continue to decline for another two decades or more.

Sandy, UT

Why are Utahns so AGAINST facts? Man is responsible for global warming.

Springville, UT

@ Mountanman, what a fiction you spin.... Perhaps you could share the source of your assertion that global temps are cooling. This should be fun.

Centerville, UT


In your opinion, is anyone who believes in climate change an alarmist? Do you call someone an alarmist because you think it makes your position more persuasive? (In my opinion it does not. It just makes you seem dogmatic.) If not, why do you do it?

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

The debate is over? When did that happen? Can government "close" a debate when MOST scientists have not signed on? When MOST scientists want to see better methods and cleaner data? Just because Al Gore says that the debate is over does not mean that it is over. He cares so little about the climate that he jets around the world in his polluting private jets without regard to the damage that he is doing. All he cares about is the big paychecks and the popular acclaim. If he were serious and if those who tell us that global warming is real were serious, they would teleconference instead of jetting of to conferences where they wring their hands and tell us unless the governments tax us to death that we will die from heat exhaustion. (By the way, my furnace kicked on last night on the 1st of July. It was set to come on at 57 degrees F.)

Hayden, ID

Micawber. Experience isn't science but it is still knowledge. We are not experiencing any of the catastrophes some people promised. Much of the "science" that has been touted has been show to be manipulated and massaged. In fact, we are experiencing the opposite of nearly everything they were so alarmed about-that makes them alarmists, doesn't it? That's why.

seattle, WA

Those who claim the majority of scientists don't know for a fact that our global climate is changing are spreading disinformation. And they know it.

Sad that fact is debatable. Sadder still for our grandchildren.

The Real Maverick
Orem, UT

But but but... The Koch bros and their lawyers who denied that tabacco smoke was unhealthy say that global warming is just a hoax for der guvmint to control me!

@ Mike Richards

99 percent of scientists believe that global warming is happening and we are the #1 cause. You may use my dictionary to look up what "majority" means since you obviously don't.

Lastly, why not clean up this planet? The Lord placed us in charge of it. He trusts us to take care of it. Would a father entrust his car out to his son and be happy if the son didn't take care of it? So why do some of you believe that it's okay to trash the planet which The Lord gave us? Won't his judgements come down on us? What will our excuse be? "But but but, we wanted more money"?

Sorry repubs, this debate is over. The rest of us have moved on.

Irony Guy
Bountiful, Utah

I'm constantly amazed at the determination of "conservatives" to refuse to conserve anything. Ongoing irony.

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

Some of the things suggested have always made sense: reduce, reuse, recycle, etc. but I reject the basis given. June has been abnormally cool. I guess that is the result of "man-caused" global warming?

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

I am aware of climate. I am also aware of our local weather. That is what I experience first-hand. I don't pretend that it constitutes the whole of global climate, but it's a small part. And a relevant local part.

Speaking of being aware of climate (and I would add, being aware of the Weather)... I heard on KSL news lasts night that this year we have had 2 days that were "above average" temperature.

I'm not suggesting that means it's not hotter elsewhere, or in other years. But it IS saying it's not hotter here... THIS year.

I know some will just blow this off. But I want them to think about something. IF this weather fact reported on KSL had been the other way (that all but 2 days were ABOVE average temperature)... I suspect you would have seen that as significant. So when it's equally extreme in the other direction.. why is it NOT significant???

Only 2 days warmer than average so far this year, and the year is more than half over...
That seems significant. Local... but significant.

Doesn't disprove Global Warming... but it's a fact to be aware of.

Virginia Beach, VA

Mike Richards -

"The debate is over?"

Well, yes it is.

Sure, we will always here distant yapping, but all serious debate is over.

"The debate is over and the verdict is in. Global warming is happening and humans are the primary cause."

Tyler D
Meridian, ID

@Twin Lights – “The poor oil companies can't possibly compete to get their message out.”

Nice Jon Stewart-like observation.

Whenever I hear about the so-called corrupting influence grant money has on scientists as compared to the corrupting influence of the world’s richest industry – and one that has found a TV network willing to wrap its propaganda in the American flag (not surprising given this TV Network’s largest shareholders) - I’m reminded of the Parable of the Mote (or speck) and the Beam.

No One Of Consequence
West Jordan, UT

When the dust settles after efforts to end global warming have instead destroyed the economic engine that has given us the highest standard of living in history, will the global warming believers be willing to reopen the debate?

Ain't over till it's over.

Salt Lake City, UT

@ No one of consequence

I sure hope we are all wrong but unfortunately at this point there is no reason to believe that. SO if we go through many efforts as individuals and a society to green the environment, create energy independence, clean the ugly two month Salt Lake valley inversion, develop cheaper energy, release the stranglehold of corporate influence in DC and THEN we find out the 3% of scientists were correct OF COURSE we will reopen the debate.

Open Minded Mormon
Everett, 00

Gotta love it when "good" Latter-Day Saints are so anti-Environment and Anti-Science,

While the LDS Church devotes and entire web-page on progressive Environmentalism, Conservationism and Stewardship of the Earth [not ownership] and her resources.

And owns and operates a world reknown University [which teaches Scientific theories such as Global Warming, Evolution, Marxism, and Sociology.]

salt lake city, UT

@ Mike Richards & Montanman
Some are still debating the world is flat and the sun orbits the Earth. Problem is those groups don't have the Koch Brothers deep pockets to fund a politcally based science project.

Frozen Fractals
Salt Lake City, UT

@lost in DC
"June has been abnormally cool. I guess that is the result of "man-caused" global warming?"

At SLC it was .25F below average on the month (-.5F on highs, tied on lows). You want to pick one location on the planet with near-average temperatures, after the warmest April and May globally on record... and question climate change with it?

" I heard on KSL news lasts night that this year we have had 2 days that were "above average" temperature."

That's incorrect. SLC had a stretch from Feb 7 to March 10 where every single day was above average. 19 of 30 June days were above average (the month was .25F below average because some of those 11 below average days were way way below average, most notably the 17th which was 53/43 when average is 84/57). February was 7 degrees above average, March was 5 degrees above average, June is the only month this year we've been below average.

Eagle Mountain, UT

Question for everyone... on what studies do you base your opinion?

It is interesting a scientific topic is largely political. That were you stand on abortion or the Iraq war can be used to determine what you believe about climate change.

Because it is a scientific question, rather than political...on what studies do you base your opinion?

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