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Published: Monday, June 30 2014 6:00 p.m. MDT

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xert
Santa Monica, CA

Wow. Nice cheap shot at the end, but I think you're wrong Mr. Rock. I had no recollection of Karl Bankowski having a 1-9 game. Maybe this was just a joke--but if you're going to make one, I would think you should be accurate. I would be willing to bet you that if you went in the crowd of a Ute game you would not find 1 person in 500 who would remember that Karl Bankowski had a bad game v. NC in 1981. Am I right?

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@xert

I would think if you are going to call out Rock for not doing his homework then maybe you ought to do your homework. I googled utah north carolina 1981 and the very first thing that popped up was the box score for that game. I looked at it and right there in the box score it showed Karl Bankowski 1-9 shooting. Not only that he only had 2 rebounds and 2 assists and then fouled out in only 23 minutes of play.

Of course I wouldn't take your bet because you are probably correct, there wouldn't be 1 in 500 ute "fans" that would remember it for multiple reasons. One you are all delusional and don't think any utah player ever has a bad game, two is those that were there probably suppressed that memory in order to keep their sanity, and three is that 500 people don't even attend utah games so it would be impossible to get 500 opinions on the matter at a utah game.

But on top of that you were wrong about bankowski's game because it was abysmal. lol

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@xert

Wouldn't be more accurate to...you know... check the actual box score instead of asking 500 people that probably don't know anyway? Why would the opinions of 500 utah "fans" mean more than the actual box score on whether or not bankowski went 1-9? What a strange way to try and establish the truth of something that is actually verifiable by checking the offical NCAA boxscore of the game.

UtesBy5
Syracuse, UT

@xert:

" I would be willing to bet you that if you went in the crowd of a Ute game you would not find 1 person in 500 who would remember that Karl Bankowski had a bad game v. NC in 1981. Am I right?"

Unfortunately, you are wrong and Rock is right. Bankowski, Chambers and Vranes were possibly the best frontcourt in the country in 1981. Bankowski was usually money from the corners but he wasn't against UNC that day and the Tar Heels won the game. It was a very painful 1-9 but everyone has a bad game now and again.

There are many of us that remember that game because Utah had such a good team that year. If Bankowski had just an average shooting game, Utah would have won and advanced. Painful memory that I'll never forget.

CougarSunDevil
Phoenix, AZ

I wouldn't know the score or anything either because the Utes are irrelevant. So whether anyone on their team did anything would only matter to Salt Lake City, no one else.

UtesBy5
Syracuse, UT

@duckhunter:

"500 people don't even attend utah games so it would be impossible to get 500 opinions on the matter at a utah game."

Pot, meet Kettle. If you did your homework you would have found:

Utah was 25-5 during the 1980-81 season and spent the majority of the year ranked in the AP top 10. Utah, averaging 13,403 fans per game, had the 12th highest attendance in the country.

"you are all delusional" LOL

UtesBy5
Syracuse, UT

@cougarsundevil:

"I wouldn't know the score or anything either because the Utes are irrelevant. So whether anyone on their team did anything would only matter to Salt Lake City, no one else."

I can understand why you would make such a statement based on the fact that neither of your teams have advanced to the Sweet Sixteen in over three decades.

FYI, Utah's "irrelevant" team was a top ten team for the majority of that season and had two lottery picks in the NBA draft (Danny Vranes #5 and Tom Chambers #8).

Utah basketball is currently down but has always been a nationally relevant program.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@utesby5

Uh....1981 was 33 years ago, we can't go back in time and "go into and ask" that crowd. We are talking about "crowds" (and I use that term lightly) at today's utah games. here's the exact quote from xerts posts.

"I would be willing to bet you that if you went in the crowd of a Ute game you would not find 1 person in 500 who would remember that Karl Bankowski had a bad game v. NC in 1981. Am I right?"

How could the crowd in 1981 remember something that hadn't even happened yet? He was talking about people now, you know 3 decades after that game occured. lol

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@utesby5

"I can understand why you would make such a statement based on the fact that neither of your teams have advanced to the Sweet Sixteen in over three decades."

Or 3 years as BYU just "advanced to the Sweet Sixteen" 3 years ago. But hey 3 years, 3 decades, what's the difference? We've already established, from xert, that utah "fans" memories are selective at best and non existant in reality. lol

CougarSunDevil
Phoenix, AZ

Utesby5.

How long ago was all this? 30+ years? If this is relevant, than I guess ute fans are wrong about BYU's 1984 NC in Football, that must be relevant too, which would then trump Utah's two BCS wins.

UtesBy5
Syracuse, UT

duckhunter:

My bad. Since it's only happened twice in history, I had forgotten that byu had advanced to the Sweet Sixteen with Jimmer.

FYI, Utah averaged over 8,600 fans per game last year. I've had season tickets for decades and was at the 1981 game so that blows your theory that no current fans that attend Utah basketball games would remember.

1980-81 was a great year in WAC basketball. Utah and Wyoming tied for 1st and BYU was one loss behind them. All three ended up ranked and several players from the three teams played in the NBA (Vranes, Chambers, Mannion, Ainge, Kite and Charles Bradley from Wyoming). This was the only other year BYU reached the Sweet Sixteen with a one point win over Notre Dame. Fun basketball year for the state.

UtesBy5
Syracuse, UT

cougarsundevil:

"How long ago was all this? 30+ years? If this is relevant, than I guess ute fans are wrong about BYU's 1984 NC in Football, that must be relevant too, which would then trump Utah's two BCS wins."

Huh? This article was written about a game that was played in 1981. Utah basketball has had a great deal of success since that game.

I was pointing out that ASU hasn't reached the Sweet Sixteen since 1975 (over 3 decades) and BYU hadn't reached since 1981 (over three decades). Duckhunter has since reminded me that BYU reached the Sweet Sixteen for their second time in school history, three years ago.

FYI, Utah has 15 trips to the Sweet Sixteen including seven trips from 1981 to present. Utah basketball has always been a relevant program.

CougarSunDevil
Phoenix, AZ

"FYI, Utah has 15 trips to the Sweet Sixteen including seven trips from 1981 to present. Utah basketball has always been a relevant program."

When was Utah's last sweet sixteen appearance? When was Utah's last trip to the NCAA tournament? I don't care what happened in 1981, 1984, 2004, or 2008. What happened last year?

Utah lost to St. Mary's in the NIT.
ASU lost to Texas in the NCAA
BYU lost to Oregon in the NCAA

So, pick which team you'd rather cheer for. I'll take ASU and BYU over Utah any day. Oh, but go ahead and remind us about the head to head. You beat BYU and split with ASU in basketball and beat BYU and lost to ASU in football. Congrats. I'll still take a Bowl game (win or lose) and an NCAA tourney trip (win or lose) than an NIT loss and a bowl-less Christmas.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

Gosh utesby5 but you and xerts apparent lack of google abilities is just making this to easy for me. Let's review your comments and then let's prove them all to be false.

"Duckhunter has since reminded me that BYU reached the Sweet Sixteen for their second time in school history, three years ago."

From the official NCAA tournament records.

BYU Sweet 16 appearances.

1950, 1951, 1957, 1965, 1971, 1981, 2011

Last time I counted that is 7 times "in school history" not 3 times, in fact 7 times is more than 3 as many times as 2 times but let's not let actual facts interfere with your attempts to make a false point.

Oh and before you try to make the other false statement utah "fans" try to make about BYU baksetball claimng they have only made it to the Elite 8 once in school history, they have in fact been to the Elite 8 three times. Once again from the offical site.

BYU Elite 8

1950, 1951, 1981

Interesting to note that many of utah's appearances in the sweet 16 or elite 8 were longer ago, or just as long ago, as those appearance by BYU.

UtesBy5
Syracuse, UT

cougsundevil,

"I don't care what happened in 1981, 1984, 2004, or 2008."

So why did you read and respond to this article about a game played in 1981? Slow day? Looking for an argument?

As a reminder, this article was about Dante Exum's father playing against the University of Utah in 1981 as a member of the UNC Tar Heels.

You jumped in with this negative comment: "I wouldn't know the score or anything either because the Utes are irrelevant. So whether anyone on their team did anything would only matter to Salt Lake City, no one else."

I'm sorry that I even acknowledged your post.

CougarSunDevil
Phoenix, AZ

"Slow day? Looking for an argument?"

Ask DN why they write these. Is it a slow day for DN? Are they looking for an argument? Only Rock would know.

"As a reminder, this article was about Dante Exum's father playing against the University of Utah in 1981 as a member of the UNC Tar Heels."

Part of it was, the other part was about BYU.

"You jumped in with this negative comment: [see prior post]"

It's a statement of fact. Does anyone outside of Salt Lake care about Utah in 1981? Does anyone in New York? Dallas? Phoenix? Gainsville? I assure you...they don't.

My comment about being irrelevant is a matter of perception. Ute fans, such as yourself, believe utes are relevant because of what they did X years ago. I determine if a team is relevant for what they did 12 months ago to present. Having said that, ASU is relevant. BYU and Utah, not so much.

"I'm sorry that I even acknowledged your post."

I'm sorry your feelings were hurt.

UtesBy5
Syracuse, UT

cougdevil:

"It's a statement of fact. Does anyone outside of Salt Lake care about Utah in 1981? Does anyone in New York? Dallas? Phoenix? Gainsville? I assure you...they don't."

What local stories were printed in your Phoenix newspapers today? Anything about ASU? I didn't go search it out because I couldn't care less about what's going on with ASU, yet your local people in Phoenix probably do. I realize this is proving your point but I have to ask, why do you care to read and/or post on a 1981 story that mainly Utah Jazz and U. of Utah fans would be interested in?

FYI, since I don't care about BYU, I didn't read or post about the other part of this article. See how that works? If you don't have interest, don't read or comment.

rvalens2
Burley, ID

@Xert

I guess I'm 1 in 500, because I was at that game and remember how poorly Bankowski played. I was devastated when the Utes lost. I even remember where I was sitting (almost center court 8 rows up). Everyone had expected the Utes to beat NC and advance, due to the home court advantage. But it just wasn't the Utes' night. Too bad too, because that was one of the best Ute teams of the past 40 years.

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