BYU football: Faith in program’s direction, leadership a key to success

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  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, UT
    July 1, 2014 4:12 p.m.

    Utah may have had a slightly higher strength of schedule than BYU the last 40 years for one reason: every year Utah has had BYU on its schedule and BYU has had Utah on its schedule. That has lowered BYU's strength of schedule overall the last 40 years and raised Utah's.

  • Christine B. Hedgefog Salt Lake City, UT
    July 1, 2014 12:28 p.m.

    u-pac "Too much talk and far too few victories in big games = BYU football"

    Ironic when the U has renewed it's least in the pac's basement apartment again this season already.

  • Cletus from Coalville Coalville, UT
    July 1, 2014 10:33 a.m.

    "That's a nice security blanket to feel that way. Doesn't matter if its reality or not, if it makes you feel better, keep telling yourselves that!"

    Of course--

    We have a nice security blanket to feel good because we are in the PAC. Doesn't matter if its reality that we win or not, but if it makes us feel better, we keep telling ourselves that!

    Go Utes!

  • Bigtimecoug Houston, TX
    July 1, 2014 10:29 a.m.

    As an independent, BYU has an easier path to a national championship than the bottom feeders in the PAC 12.

  • CodyCougar Madison, SD
    July 1, 2014 10:23 a.m.

    I for one am extremely disappointed with the direction of BYU Athletics. Cecil Samuelson and Tom Holmoe have lacked vision and energy to help BYU remain competitive! Besides being owned by our rival to the north in just about everything last year, few athletic teams over the last few years have distinguished themselves nationally. A high place finish in men’s XC and women’s soccer appearance does not make up for demise of once proud programs (in men’s and women’s track, women’s XC, men’s v-ball, baseball, etc.). And being in an irrelevant conference with recent snubs by major conferences for even scheduling a game—let alone conference inclusion are insults of national proportion. I do have hope that President Worthen will have the conviction to make the changes needed in athletics to fill the leadership void.

  • Scores Idaho Falls, ID
    July 1, 2014 10:08 a.m.

    Utah played "roughly" the same schedule as BYU during those 40 years....except for: Did the utes play Miami, Michigan, Pitt, UCLA, Washington, Baylor, Texas, Oklahoma, Oregon, Georgia, Ohio State, Wisconsin, Missouri, Iowa and others during that span of years? No! BYU always tried to upgrade their schedule the best they could since being in the WAC and Mtn. West. U played lower tier teams just hoping to get a winning record. We all know whey U are in the Pac Conference. It's all about the money. It certainly isn't about winning, until that is, you actually do it.

  • Joshua20 Apex, NC
    July 1, 2014 9:49 a.m.

    It's ironic that the author starts with "faith is anything but a foreign concept at BYU" and then uses the word "faith" in its non spiritual definition, which is "complete trust or confidence in someone or something." The word faith in the scriptures means that as well as something much more. The spiritual faith as used in the scriptures fits that definition, plus:
    1) It is a gift from God. It is not just derived from one's own self.
    2) It is based in truth. As Alma described, " if ye have faith ye hope for things which are not seen, which are true." (Alma 32:21) (See also Mormon 3:12)

    You can have complete confidence and trust in something that is NOT true or will NOT happen. That belief or confidence is NOT spiritual "faith". I believe the "core principle" at BYU is spiritual faith, not the faith used in this article.

    Yes, I'm aware that the cougar fight song uses "faith" in its non-spiritual definition.
    Also, as a side note, another definition of "faith" which is also found in the scriptures is one's belief system or religion. (e.g. Alma 14:16, Hel. 9:16)

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    July 1, 2014 3:34 a.m.

    Sorry but 10 wins this year would not be impressive at all. Beat Texas again and go 12-0 and then maybe there is an argument for BYU in a big game.

    June 30, 2014 8:41 p.m.

    Well lets see - Utah played roughly the same schedule as BYU over the past forty years - do they have the fourth best winning record?


  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    June 30, 2014 8:14 p.m.

    "I’m just going to have blind faith that whatever happens we’re going to be considered in that conversation. Whichever path we’re going on right now will be the right path."

    Wyoming and Utah state tell themselves the same thing.

  • DEW Cougars Sandy, UT
    June 30, 2014 7:02 p.m.

    Hey Cougar Fans, are you guys making comments on Utah side. I'm not doing it. What is wrong with them above and especially those two guys first in line. Have Faith U above for this Utah football season.

    Go Cougars!

  • SEC Rules Seminole, FL
    June 30, 2014 6:00 p.m.

    Let's see...

    Ute fans can stand the fact that won a national championship, because they don;t think we deserve it.

    BYU fans can't stand the fact that the Utes are in the PAC12, because we don't think they deserve it.

    Hey...I think I just found some common ground between us. Alas, they won't ever win a championship, and we won't ever be in a P5 conference. Let's shake hands and promise to never to troll again on each others DN articles. OK?

  • FDRfan Sugar City, ID
    June 30, 2014 5:29 p.m.

    Just beat the heck out of every body you play and things will work out.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    June 30, 2014 5:16 p.m.

    We play tons of top teams this year for sure. Win them and we could win national titles.

  • Ironhide Salt Lake City, UT
    June 30, 2014 4:53 p.m.

    Funny how the strength of BYU's schedule over the last 40 years is laughable to ute fans. BYU and utah were in the same conference! So what does that say about utah? Ouch! Such a strong, long time tradition you have. And since joining the PAC, that tradition is s-t-r-u-g-g-l-i-n-g. I guess it makes sense most of you don't know the history, since you have only been fans for the past ten years.

    Security blanket? Yeah, that's it. It makes so much more sense to down play, have despair, and desparage their own path? The hate turns some of your ability to reason into a dumpster fire.

  • Benderman1 Layton, UT
    June 30, 2014 4:47 p.m.

    Does anyone else find it funny that Chris B and hedgehog are always the first ones to comment on articles about BYU? I love knowing that proclaimed Ute fans are such diehard followers of BYU. That alone shows how relevant BYU really is. Thanks for the support guys!

    June 30, 2014 4:18 p.m.

    We need to discuss the word "faith" which means to believe in something without complete knowledge.

    People have "faith" that the sun will rise every day, even though it is possible it will not. You don't have a perfect knowledge of the sun rising, until you see it rise (and, then, there is that pesky 8 minute time lag).

    Those that are directing the BYU football program have more knowledge than those of us on the outside. Therefore, we have faith they are making the right choices. But, it is not blind faith as we have some evidence/knowledge. I am very confident that being independent is better than being in the MWC from financial, exposure, SOS and recruiting viewpoints.

    Just as a Utah fan might have faith that those in charge of the football program are making the best decisions for the Utes, but never are privy to all the facts.

    Or, a fan might just rail against those making decisions, so no faith and little knowledge. A name(s) for that type of fan is obvious.

    June 30, 2014 4:10 p.m.

    Love how BYU is still front and center for Ute fans!

    I would guess that these few Ute fans post more on BYU articles than they do on Ute articles.

    As a Utah Alumnus, I don't consider being a BYU hater as a valid reason for claiming to be a Ute fan! Go Utes and Go Cougars!

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    June 30, 2014 4:07 p.m.

    The biggest reasons for BYU's success over the years are the money they have invested in the program and playing softer opponents. In any case, they've won and Cougar nation feels grrrrreat.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    June 30, 2014 3:44 p.m.

    Oh, how the 2014 Cougar envy is unfolding.

    Wah!! the schedule was so easy. That's why they're a winning program.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    June 30, 2014 2:59 p.m.

    "BYU has been one of the most consistent winning programs over the past 40 years. It is tied for fourth nationally in wins with 353 during that time span"

    I'd be interested to know the SOS of the top 10 winning programs over the past 40 years. My guess is if it was favorable bYu would have already added it to thier propoganda.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    June 30, 2014 2:26 p.m.

    "I’m just going to have blind faith that whatever happens we’re going to be considered in that conversation. Whichever path we’re going on right now will be the right path."

    That's a nice security blanket to feel that way. Doesn't matter if its reality or not, if it makes you feel better, keep telling yourselves that!