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Published: Sunday, June 29 2014 11:56 p.m. MDT

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DrUte
Woods Cross, UT

Appreciate the article, reinforces the transparency policy on The Hill, altho it makes the recent swim team situation even that much more problematic --- e.g. why it took so much time to identify and correct the coaching problem with a full-time five-person compliance team available to athletes and their families.

If this team was more accessible and/or visible then perhaps the decision on the part of athletes and coaches when facing temptation might lean more to self-policing (infinitely more desirable) than "catch me if you can".

Haven't seen a similar article concerning BYU, of course this article obviously a comparison/juxtaposition of conditions at the two universities.

[Anyone seen or heard from Busby recently?]

ND95CA
Lincoln Park, IL

DrUte

Either Dr. Hill's compliance team was completely asleep at the wheel, or they were complicit in covering up a scandal that should have cost Chris Hill his job.

deductive reasoning
Arlington, VA

DrUte

Instead of throwing out mindless jabs at a person you obviously don't have a clue about, you should Google Derik Stevenson's comments about Duane Busby to discover who Duane really was.

Not Much of a Fan
OC, CA

How many self-reported violations did BYU have compared to Utah?

Brave Sir Robin
San Diego, CA

@deductive reasoning

If Busby was such a great human being and didn't really do anything wrong, why is he being kept under wraps? If there's nothing to hide, why not say so? Why all the secrecy?

@ND95CA

What does or doesn't happen with Chris Hill doesn't affect you guys at BYU - when he eventually leaves or retires, he won't be the next AD at BYU, and his loss won't get Utah demoted from the PAC12. In other words, there's no light at the end of the tunnel for BYU. Rather than worry about whether or not Chris Hill should have a job, you should be more worried about what the NCAA might do to BYU, because this Busby thing goes a lot deeper than free socks.

Tenn12
Orem, UT

Dear Brave Sir Robin,
In your post you say, "What does or doesn't happen with Chris Hill doesn't affect you guys at BYU." As someone who frequently comments and trolls on articles at BYU, I'm wondering if you're turning over a new leaf this week and taking your own advice. After all, what does or doesn't happen with BYU doesn't affect you guys at Utah.

Mormon Ute
Kaysville, UT

Nice to know the U has such a comprehensive and proactive system in place to deal with these issues. This kind of transparency and openness helps keep public relations issues to a minimum.

skywalker
Palo Alto, CA

Mormon Ute

Nice flowery words, but how do you explain Utah's comprehensive and proactive system completely failing the swim team?

BlueNtheFace
Rancho Cucamonga, CA

University of Utah Core Values:

No Drugs
Honesty
Treat Women with Respect
No Stealing
No DUI's(sic)

I applaud Utah's such high standards. I will venture to say that it shouldn't be too hard to meet them.

Go Utes.

sammyg
Springville, UT

Like this is a revelation. Most schools have a compliance program and a person over it.

Even my son's NJCAA community college where he's a coach has this in place.

Big whoop.

JSwaggDaddy
Heber City, UT

Congratulations utah for having a system in place for compliance!

Guess, what? Every college has one as far as I know, and even some high schools have people in place to make sure things are operating under the rules.

Chris Hill, you're a little behind on this one.

ekute
Layton, UT

Where was byu's "system for compliance" before Busby "retired"?

Steven S Jarvis
Orem, UT

It almost sounds like the swim team scandal has lead Utah to build a compliance office. I would have assumed that the University would have had a system in place for a long time. Is there something new about it that wasn't there before?

CO Ute
PARKER, CO

In my opinion, the posts about the swim scandal are missing the boat. This article is about an NCAA compliance group. Among other things the compliance people are looking at recruiting, athlete benefits, grades and items mandated by the NCAA.

While the swim team issue was a big black eye and poorly handled, it wasn't compliance related.

phantomblade
Salt Lake City, Utah

CO Ute

"While the swim team issue was a big black eye and poorly handled, it wasn't compliance related."

Don't kid yourself... all you have to do is look what happened at Penn State to see that abuse within an athletic department is absolutely compliance related.

Mormon Ute
Kaysville, UT

skywalker,

I guess you subscribe to the notion that a person convicted in the media is truly guilty. The independent investigation of the swim coach revealed he had issues in his personal life that warranted firing him, but they cleared him of the allegations of abuse of his swimmers. No NCAA violations occurred.

phoenix
Gilbert, AZ

Mormon Ute

"The independent investigation of the swim coach revealed he had issues in his personal life that warranted firing him, but they cleared him of the allegations of abuse of his swimmers. No NCAA violations occurred."

Of course the "independent" investigation "cleared" Greg Winslow of abuse.

The "investigation" was conducted by Alan Sullivan, a former member of the University of Utah Alumni Association Board of Directors.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@Mormon Ute

I'm going to have to disagree with you on the "independent investigation" claim, that is simply not the case. It was conducted by a utah insider and was pretty much a joke because of that.

MyPerspective
Salt Lake City, UT

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@Mormon Ute

"I'm going to have to disagree with you on the "independent investigation" claim, that is simply not the case. It was conducted by a utah insider and was pretty much a joke because of that."

We're still waiting to find out what the NCAA thinks of byu's own internal investigation, aren't we. byu would have been far better served to take the same approach Utah did. But hey, Mendenahll and his side kick said that they feel good about the "results" of byu's investigation so it's all good, right? The NCAA will most certainly not take issue with Holmoe, Mendenhall, and byu, right? Right, Duckhunter??

DeepBlue
Anaheim, CA

MyPerspective

Utah's supposed "independent investigation" has nothing to do with the BYU's investigation.

However, as a college sports fan, I'm much more concerned about a coach abusing his athletes, than about an athlete being allow to crash a couple of day "for free" on somebody's couch.

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