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Published: Sunday, June 29 2014 3:10 p.m. MDT

Updated: Monday, June 30 2014 9:06 a.m. MDT

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DN Subscriber
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Sorry, but as an AARP member, I totally disagree with their assessment and recommendations.

Their solution, and that pushed by the liberal Democrat legislator are the usual liberal prescription for everything- another government program throwing money at a problem, with success measured by how much money is spent, not by the quailty of the results or actual effectiveness at eliminating the problem.

Worse, this ostensibly promises to "protect the nest egg of seniors" by having magic "free money" appear to pay for their needs. They never tell you that the money will come from taxes to be raised on someone. Probably the families of the elderly, or the elderly themselves in the form of estate taxes.

No, Utah seniors do quite well, and the strong family units, large family size and religiously inspired desire to voluntarily care for others is a much better solution than anything AARP or liberal Democrats can ever dream up.

rmsenior
Saratoga Springs, UT

I completely agree with DN Subscriber. AARP lost my membership and support 3 years ago. I cannot support their liberal leaning agenda.

procuradorfiscal
Tooele, UT

Re: "The Beehive State ranks last in the nation in AARP's . . . ."

That's OK, AARP ranks last among real Utahns, too.

ImpartialObserver
Logan, UT

@DN Subscriber I don't think you understood the part of the article that you quoted. Here is the entirety of what was written:

"Chavez-Houck is also hoping to again back a bill that would increase investigative staff to help protect seniors and their hard-earned nest eggs. 'You have these individuals who have been working all their lives to take care of themselves and then to have some people take advantage of them, it's very sad,' she said."

The goal is to "increase investigative staff to help protect seniors and their hard-earned nest eggs." The reason that they need to "increase investigative staff" is because Utah has a pretty big problem with affinity fraud and seniors tend to be prime targets. This has nothing to do with giving away "free money" to anyone. The goal is to try to reduce the amount of fraud that is being perpetrated on our elderly. The best way to think about it would be similar to increasing the size of a police force in order to try to combat crime.

FT
salt lake city, UT

Although Utahns consider themselves a Christan state they often exhibit and practice things contrary to his gospel. Educational funding, equal rights are other examples as well. It's no suprise that the previous posters attack the messanger instead of doing a little self reflection on what we say we value and what we show we value.

JWB
Kaysville, UT

Even though the conservatives in Utah have some problems with their elected officials, Utah does take care of the majority of people and that doesn't mean just through the government sponsored programs. There are tens of thousands that volunteer through all kinds of organizations, paid and not paid. We don't need government to tell us everything to do and are a loving and kind state.

AARP bought into the ACA lock stock and barrel with the Obama administration and the Democratic Congress. They saw the money they could make in the process with government intervention in our lives through automatic deductions from paychecks and insurance costs.

They are a union that may have served a function but have gone beyond that due to money. They lost their credibility when they slid in the back door with President Obama who has gone too far in his socialism forced mandates. We may not have the power of Stalin in our lives or of Hitler in dividing the country into pockets but we have experienced a lot of those trends since 2009. It is hard to believe the Nobel group would have bent that low.

Johnnyoh!
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AARP is a shill for United health Care , basically one in the same, their agenda is to get government funding for any of their programs, this is just another way to do it.
Utahans have always taken care of their own, children to the elderly, the AARP ratings shouldn't startle anyone, guilt tripping seldom works on people who are tuned in to AARP's agenda.

Granny
Saint George, UT

I also dropped AARP membership a year ago because of ridiculous articles like this. AARP certainly didn't account for and acknowledge the volunteerism and self-reliance attitude in this state.

I didn't have the advantage of many siblings to help me and I could not physically take care of my parents by myself. However, their savings allowed me to put them in a nice, well-run facility where I had 24/7 access and they had above-and-beyond care. My parents were self-made and chose wise investments and frugality as a way to ensure that I wouldn't have to support them in their twilight years (although I would have, if needed).

My dad, a WWII veteran, declined any help from the VA because he proudly didn't need it and couldn't imagine taking something he didn't need.

I wish AARP and other organizations would alter their agendas to celebrate people like my parents (and many of yours) who worked hard, gave back to the community/country and "took" nothing. AARP's approach of cradle-to-grave government oversight is what is bankrupting this country, financially and morally.

lisa morris
salt lake city, UT

Thank you so much for talking about caregiver stress. My experuence has been that certain things here would require only slight changes to reduce a great deal of family exhaustion.

Some of our seniors require para transit assistance. They may need or want to get to appointments when family members are not available (such as daily physical therapy). However, our UTA system refuses to provide assistance from the curb to the building when necessary. No family member would be so heartless. It is impractical as well as illegal.

Secondly, no supermarket in SLC will do home delivery (for cash), for homebound residents, like they did in years past.

Finally, gas stations are not attended by employees to pump gas. Pushing the button does not work. Many seniors still can and will drive. Disembarking from the car at a gas pump with a cane or walker is often difficult.

Not every senior has a family that can do it all. If you think a ward or missionaries can do it all, then try that for awhile. It isn't a liberal thing or a conservative thing. It is just reality.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

Sad to keep reading over and over again how Utah continues to rank dead last or at least at the bottom in terms of education, and caring for the Poor, Sick and the Elderly.

Mormon and Moroni warned us about this.
Same Sex Marriage wasn't mentioned once for the destruction of the Nephites -- but everyone of these areas Utah fails in - IS!

VST
Bountiful, UT

AARP is NOT a good unbiased source of information regarding the needs and legal rights of senior citizens. It is an organization bent on only one thing – padding their pockets with money provided by the Government.

In spite of their rhetoric, they do not care one whit about the welfare of senior citizens.

BU52
Provo, ut

In this case its good to be last, what that means is that families are taking care of their own rather than relying on another statist bureaucracy funded by the tax payer.

JWB
Kaysville, UT

I believe families have responsibilities for family. The Church are there to help in some ways but not for 24/7/365. My wife and I provided care for her mother for over 4-years but with periodic help from other family members. We had home teachers come for their normal visits along with the visiting teachers. Both of these various parts of the Church would change periodically but friendships continued. It requires planning and even turning down some job advances to arrange schedules to benefit my wife and her mother. Life isn't always a smooth road. Government or church organizations can help but should not forever to provide sustenance.

Extended family members can sometimes help with money, time, housing, sitting, or just spending time with n individual. Our mothers lived in some pretty austere times in their lives. Government officials get elected due to their constituents being government fed and housed and other benefits from tax payers. The AARP is one of those organizations that have climbed onboard and forgetting their real constituents. They see DOLLARS from the Big Uncle peacekeeper and freedom taker.

Sego Lilly
Salt Lake City, UT

we had trouble with AARP when my husband went from medicare to VA medical. AARP was there with their hand out saying that he had to have them for medication coverage and wanted about $70 a month. They were billing us for over a year and we didn't know why and tried to get them to stop. They claimed that the medicare office had to tell them we didn't want there service. They did eventually stop but still insist on us owing them money for coverage we didn't WANT or NEED or even ASK for.

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