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  • Uteanymous Salt Lake City, Utah
    July 4, 2014 12:24 a.m.

    1984 AP Poll

    1 BYU (38) 1160 pts
    2 Washington (16) 1140
    3 Florida (6) 1092
    4 Nebraska 1017
    5 Boston College 932
    6 Oklahoma 883
    7 Oklahoma State 864
    8 SMU 761
    9 UCLA 613
    10 USC 596
    11 South Carolina 557
    12 Maryland 552
    13 Ohio State 497
    14 Auburn 432
    15 LSU 314
    16 Iowa 228
    17 Florida State 207
    18 Miami (FL 166
    19 Kentucky 152
    20 Virginia 119

    Others Receiving Votes
    21 West Virginia 109
    22 Georgia 67
    23 Army 44
    24 Air Force 26
    24 Notre Dame 26

    Just because it doesn't fit the jealous Utah fan narrative, doesn't mean Air Force didn't finish with the 24th most points in the final AP poll, which is, after all, the criteria used for ranking teams in the poll.

  • Uteanymous Salt Lake City, Utah
    July 3, 2014 11:31 p.m.

    AZUTE1

    "The AP Poll only ranked 20 schools back then..."

    AP only included the Top 20 in it's rankings, but in the final poll, Air Force finished tied with Notre Dame at #24.

    It's laughable that you cite Utah's wins over "ranked" opponents as sacrosanct, but are full of whiny excuses about why BYU's rankings shouldn't count.

    In your distorted mind, the voters are geniuses when it comes to ranking Utah, but complete idiots when it comes to ranking BYU.

    btw, if Utah 2008 was really as good as you pretend they were, why did Utah only finish #6 in the final BCS standings?

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    July 3, 2014 5:42 p.m.

    "BYU beat Air Force(8-4) on the road, which finished #24 in the final AP poll"

    Misinformation and entirely false, as The AP Poll only ranked 20 schools back then....Weak-sauce when compared to the 4 final ranked teams we beat in '08, 2 in the Top-10, including Alabama which spent a large chunk of the season at #1.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    July 3, 2014 5:26 p.m.

    "Texas Christian, Boise State, and Utah have been tearing it up over the last decade, but in 1984 Brigham Young did something none of those other 'Little Big' teams have even gotten a legitimate shot at: they finished #1. Unfortunately, BYU '84 differs from those other teams in another way too: they did not play a single ranked opponent. The only so-called 'national champion' that didn't (though Oklahoma came very close in 1956).

    BYU's 1984 opponents went 61-85-3, placing their schedule 96th amongst 98 division 1A schools. And yet their performance was as weak as their schedule. They won five games by a touchdown or less, from a 20-14 win at 3-7-1 Pitt in their opener to a 24-17 win against 6-6 Michigan in the Holiday Bowl-- by far the worst bowl opponent ever faced by a so-called 'national champion.' How bad was Michigan? They finished 6th in the Big Ten, and the Big Ten was a horrid 12-15 against nonconference opponents and 1-5 in bowl games. The only conference in the country that was as bad as the Big 10 was the WAC itself."

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    July 3, 2014 5:01 p.m.

    "The truth is the 38 sportswriter who voted BYU #1 in the 1984 AP poll were fully aware of BYU's SOS, but still felt that BYU deserved their #1 vote."

    Actually, what occurred is these human voters committed a colossal error by ranking Pitt as high as they did so when byu barely beat them they vaulted up in the rankings because everybody believed Pitt was something they weren't....When OU hit town a couple of weeks later and curb-stomped Pitt on their homefield, everybody saw Pitt for what they were, a terrible team, and by then it was too late to reverse their second error of ranking byu so high, that is if these voters wanted to maintain a modicum of integrity.

    byu's drastic rise in the polls was a domino-effect, rooted in one enormously collosal error originated in Pitt's preseason ranking, period, end-of-story.

  • Uteanymous Salt Lake City, Utah
    July 3, 2014 3:17 p.m.

    truthsandwich

    Let is go already; you've already been caught in several fabrications in order to make a weak point.

    The truth is the 38 sportswriter who voted BYU #1 in the 1984 AP poll were fully aware of BYU's SOS, but still felt that BYU deserved their #1 vote.

    They were certainly better able to evaluate BYU's "worthiness" than a single sportswriter, 30 years after the fact, who was only 6 years old when BYU won their championship.

  • DeepBlue Anaheim, CA
    July 3, 2014 2:52 p.m.

    truthsandwich

    "BYU beat the absolute weakest schedule in the country. They didn't beat any good teams."

    That's an absolute... untruth.

    BYU beat Air Force(8-4) on the road, which finished #24 in the final AP poll, higher than Utah's 2004 Fiesta Bowl opponent, Pittsburgh, which finished #25, and was the only decent team Utah beat in 2004.

    And, unlike Pittsburgh 2004, Air Force 1984 destroyed their bowl opponent, Va Tech(8-4), 23-7.

  • truthsandwich RANDOLPH, UT
    July 3, 2014 2:24 p.m.

    @Sportsfan

    "The truth is, SOS mattered just as much in 1984 as it does today."

    Referring specifically to '84:

    "today's voters place far more emphasis on who teams beat."

    -Sports Illustrated

    BYU beat the absolute weakest schedule in the country. They didn't beat any good teams. None. My point remains: not a Championship by today's standards. Sorry.

  • talkinsports Gilbert, AZ
    July 2, 2014 10:05 p.m.

    distortedtruth

    "If strength of schedule had mattered as much then, BYU WOULD NOT have been considered the National Champions."

    -Sports Illustrated

    LOL at your deliberate misquote.

    What Stewart Mandel (who was only 6 years old in 1984) really wrote was this:

    "Twenty-five years ago, "strength of schedule" was not the hot-button subject it is today. If it had been, BYU MAY never have made it to No. 1."

    Mandel is obviously unaware of Bryant Gumbel's "bo-diddly-tech" comment, or the fierce debate waged by pundits from across the country for over a month regarding BYU's schedule, or the fact that his own publication was one of the news organizations which named BYU #1.

    BYU was named No. 1 by the Associated Press, the United Press International, SPORTS ILLUSTRATED, CNN-USA Today, and the Football Writers of America. The Cougars also won the Grantland Rice Trophy and the MacArthur Bowl.

  • SportsFan Orem, UT
    July 2, 2014 9:22 p.m.

    truthsandwich

    "Not like they do today. 84 made them take a good hard look at how they weigh strength of schedule."

    You're seriously going to argue that the opinion of ONE sportswriter 30 year after the fact carries more weight than the 38 sportswriters of the day who did feel that BYU had done enough to deserve the 1984 National Championship?

    The truth is, SOS mattered just as much in 1984 as it does today. BYU's schedule was carefully scrutinized by sportswriters and coaches from every major college football organization for over a month, but in the end, the majority still felt that BYU was more deserving of being named national champion than any other contender.

  • truthsandwich RANDOLPH, UT
    July 2, 2014 3:12 p.m.

    @DeepBlue

    "Utah fans simply demonstrate their ignorance by claiming that the poll voters in 1984 didn't consider SOS, as well as a many other criteria, in their voting."

    Not like they do today. 84 made them take a good hard look at how they weigh strength of schedule.

    "If strength of schedule had mattered as much then, BYU would not have been considered the National Champions."

    -Sports Illustrated

  • DeepBlue Anaheim, CA
    July 2, 2014 8:02 a.m.

    Utah fans simply demonstrate their ignorance by claiming that the poll voters in 1984 didn't consider SOS, as well as a many other criteria, in their voting.

    In 1979, BYU entered their bowl game undefeated at 11-0, but weren't ranked #1, in fact they weren't even ranked in the Top 10 in both polls.

    Why was that?

    BYU played in the WAC (assumed "weak" SOS) and hadn't built any national cachet with the voters.

    After five Top 12 finishes in the next six years, BYU had built enough national cachet to overcome the SOS issues with voters.

    Unfortunately for Utah, the Utes have never had any sustained period of success.

    In fact, the Utes have never had more than two consecutive AP Top 25 finishes in their entire history.

    BYU has had FOUR during the Bronco/Kyle era (2006 to 2009).

  • royalblue Alpine, UT
    July 2, 2014 7:38 a.m.

    Here's one of the many headlines referencing #1 Miami that you can easily find just by Googling "BYU Miami 1990"

    BYU, Detmer Stun No. 1 Miami - Chicago Tribune

    You can search the internet forever and never find a similar headline re: the Utes.

  • royalblue Alpine, UT
    July 2, 2014 7:34 a.m.

    Tomahawk Red

    "royalblue (aka Duckhunter)"

    Sorry to disappoint you, but I'm not Duckhunter. There is more than one BYU fan living in Alpine you know.

    BYU beat #1 Miami (and defending national champion) in September 1990, the game that made Ty Detmer a serious Heisman candidate.

    It's part of history - look it up.

  • truthsandwich RANDOLPH, UT
    July 1, 2014 6:14 p.m.

    @DeductiveReasoning

    "Utah only reached #2/#4 in polls in 2008, so yes, BYU had a greater season in 1984."

    Epic fail. The original criticism from a BYU fan was that "Utah's great seasons were against mid-major competition."

    I asked if BYU has ever had a great season against better competition than 2008 Utah.

    2008 Utah beat 4 ranked teams, 2 end-of-season top 10 teams, and smacked Alabama in a BCS Bowl.

    1984 BYU played the weakest schedule in the country, then beat a bad team in a non-major bowl.

    56th strength of schedule is better than 90th plus.

    Again, epic fail.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    July 1, 2014 5:05 p.m.

    @ Tommahawk Red

    Bingo! The correct answer is both A) and B) as you will come to find out just as I have.

  • Tomahawk Red North Salt Lake, UT
    July 1, 2014 3:12 p.m.

    Rockwell
    Baltimore, MD

    As Utah fans are constantly reminding us, the Utes would rather beat BYU, than go to a bowl, be ranked, or win a conference championship.

    ---------

    Either you:

    A) produce quotes or links to even one single Utah fan saying this to back up this absurd notion

    or

    B) made that up

    Since there is virtually no chance of A, I think we all know you made that up.

    BYU has dominated in the last half century? Oh, okay. Well, Utah has dominated in the last quarter century... and more importantly, over the last 15 years, which is what's actually relevant in the current state of the game.

    If you want your team to stand head and shoulders above Utah, try beating them once in a while. Short of that, you and your entire base is all bark, no bite.

  • Tomahawk Red North Salt Lake, UT
    July 1, 2014 3:07 p.m.

    royalblue
    Alpine, UT

    Utah has never had the best quarterback in the country

    Utah has never had the best passer in the country

    ----------

    ???

  • Tomahawk Red North Salt Lake, UT
    July 1, 2014 3:07 p.m.

    royalblue (aka Duckhunter)
    Alpine, UT

    BYU has never beaten the #1 team either.

  • Rockwell Baltimore, MD
    July 1, 2014 12:30 p.m.

    JohnInSLC

    As Utah fans are constantly reminding us, the Utes would rather beat BYU, than go to a bowl, be ranked, or win a conference championship.

    btw, BYU has owned the BYU-Utah series for the last half century, since BYU built LES and finally started taking football seriously.

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    July 1, 2014 11:45 a.m.

    "while most make BYU look better"

    Taysom4:

    Well, except for the whole 57–34–4, 9-of-12, 4-in-a-row thing.

  • royalblue Alpine, UT
    July 1, 2014 8:25 a.m.

    JohnInSLC

    Some fans are forced to talk about "lesser" accomplishments, because they have no superlatives to talk about:

    Utah has never been the #1-ranked team

    Utah has never beaten the #1-ranked team

    Utah has never had a Heisman Trophy winner

    Utah has never had the best quarterback in the country

    Utah has never had the best passer in the country

    Utah has never had the best running back in the country

    Utah has never had the best interior lineman in the country

    Utah has never had a national hall of fame player

    btw, #1 draft pick is NOT an achievement - it's simply luck of the draw of what skill set the first team in the draft needs to fill (in hindsight, it's clear that Alex Smith wasn't even the best quarterback in the 2004 NFL draft);

    Steve Young would have been the #1 draft pick in the 1983 NFL draft if he hadn't opted to start his professional career in the USFL;

    Young and several other BYU quarterbacks finished higher in the Heisman balloting than Alex Smith.

  • Taysom4Heisman Heber City, UT
    June 30, 2014 6:02 p.m.

    @Wookie

    I'm not inferring that it was cowardly. Chris Hill said the schedule would be too strong if they played both BYU and Michigan in the same season.

    @JohnInSLC

    A lot of those stats are only better for utah because of ancient football history in the early and mid 1900's. Sure, utah has 24 conference titles, but 19 happened in the first 42 years. They have 5 in the last 50 years. I don't know about you, but I would consider that a drop off.

    As for BYU, they had 0 in the first 42 years, and 23 in the last 50 years. And we probably would have had one or two more if we were still in a conference.

    As for the winning percentage both overall and in bowl games, I think we all know BYU's record was awful early and has been one of the best in the nation recently.

    The fact is, you can pick different windows and time periods and some make utah look better while most make BYU look better.

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 30, 2014 3:41 p.m.

    Snack:

    Y fan spin to promote their team as the better overall program uses selective slices of history. Let's evaluate the records since 1922 side-by-side:

    Utah: 628-435-31 (57.4% winning percentage)
    BYU: 518-383-26 (55.9% winning percentage)

    Bowl records:
    Utah: 13-4 (76.4%)
    BYU: 13-18-1 (40.6%)

    Undefeated Seasons
    Utah: 5
    BYU: 1

    Conference titles
    Utah: 24, and counting
    BYU: 23, and not counting

    Finally, Utah has three things BYU doesn't have, and likely never will: two BCS Bowl trophies and a No. 1 overall NFL draft pick.

  • Snack PAC Olympus Cove, Utah
    June 30, 2014 2:03 p.m.

    SoonerUte

    "Wake me up when BYU crafts a major schedule."

    Wake me when Utah actually accomplishes something against a "major schedule".

    The Utes have NEVER even qualified for a bowl while playing a Top 40 schedule.

    BYU qualified for a bowl in 2013 after playing the #38 schedule.

    Utah fans love to talk the talk, but their team obviously can't walk the walk.

  • deductive reasoning Arlington, VA
    June 30, 2014 1:58 p.m.

    truthsandwich

    Utah only reached #2/#4 in polls in 2008, so yes, BYU had a greater season in 1984.

    btw, Utah only finished #6 in the final 2004 and 2008 BCS standings, so by today's standards, Utah wouldn't have even been good enough to make the 2014 playoffs.

    by comparison, every single BYU team during the Dave Rose era would have blown the socks off of Utah's 1944 NCAA tournament champion, which wouldn't have even gotten an invitation to the NCAA tournament, "by today's standards".

  • deductive reasoning Arlington, VA
    June 30, 2014 1:51 p.m.

    Wookie

    "So you are inferring that Utah cancelling with the Y and opting to play against Michigan was a cowardly move?"

    Nope, that's what Utah's AD inferred when he said that he didn't think Utah was good enough to play both BYU and Michigan in the same season.

  • SoonerUte Salt Lake City, UT
    June 30, 2014 1:26 p.m.

    "BYU will play anybody any where."
    And yet so many nobodys show up on the schedule.

    The important thing is fans would rather have an 8-10 win season over playing a real slate of opponents. Based on real results (i.e. on field), I can see why.

    "Wake me up when Utah actually has a winning season in the PAC-12."
    Wake me up when BYU crafts a major schedule.

  • truthsandwich RANDOLPH, UT
    June 30, 2014 1:15 p.m.

    @BluHusky

    "Both of Utah's great seasons were against mid-major competition."

    Has BYU ever, even once, had a great season against a better higher level of competition than 2008 Utah had?

    Can't wait to hear it.

  • Wookie Omaha, NE
    June 30, 2014 12:27 p.m.

    BleuHusky:

    So you are inferring that Utah cancelling with the Y and opting to play against Michigan was a cowardly move? Especially playing at Michigan? You do have a point, since the U and TCU have joined the BIG5 they have been non-existent. This is because they have learned what your teams in WA have learned; when you play top talent week in and week out it wears on a team. I think you may not pay enough attention to the Y's schedule. They play some okay teams but their SOS is weak at best. To say that teams avoid the Y is silly. They avoid the Y becuase of the expense of travel and the grind of the season. They get no bonus points for playing the Y with their SOS so there is no benefit in doing so. Sadly, you may be slightly confused with your assessment.

    Go UTES!!

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    June 30, 2014 12:22 p.m.

    He could line up anywhere on the field and brake records.

  • BlueHusky Mission Viejo, CA
    June 30, 2014 12:06 p.m.

    Enough with the broken record. Both of Utah's great seasons were against mid-major competition. As were Boise State and TCU's BCS seasons. Neither team has been heard from since joining the Big XII or the PAC-12.

    Wake me up when Utah actually has a winning season in the PAC-12.

    I give BYU credit for huevos. They don't duck anybody and will play anybody any where. Sadly, some of the "Big Boys" are afraid to come to Provo.

    Big Boy Utah cancels two games with BYU because they're scheduling Michigan. Oh wow! That shows some courage, for sure. Sadly, WSU and Washington also bought out games with BYU. I'm ashamed of them, but at least UW played and beat BYU in a bowl game.

    My concern about BYU Independence is that too many teams are afraid to play them in Provo. (Ditto for Boise in the recent past). We'll just have to see if the new SOS requirements change that cowardice.

  • FACTchequer Salt Lake City, UT
    June 30, 2014 12:01 p.m.

    Christy B

    "I'm very proud of our SOS national championship trophy, even though I'm not quite sure if such a trophy actually exists."

    It's very tiny and hidden under one of those PAC 12 stickers U see all over town.

  • Steven S Jarvis Orem, UT
    June 30, 2014 11:56 a.m.

    Talking about Utah's bowl slate vs. BYU's is pointless. BYU has played more big time bowl games simply due to the number of championships it won. It will continue to play in bowls while Utah's program will continue to miss out.

    Jamal has a shot this year and next year to do something special. He might get the record THIS year. He will certainly get it next year if he doesn't hit the mark sooner.

  • Christy B Salt Lake City, Utah
    June 30, 2014 11:53 a.m.

    I'm very proud of our SOS national championship trophy, even though I'm not quite sure if such a trophy actually exists.

  • ExecutorIoh West Jordan, UT
    June 30, 2014 11:32 a.m.

    The same Strength of Schedule rankings that show BYU with such a pathetic schedule show Alabama only two spots above BYU. Maybe Alabama knows that strength of schedule only matters if you are a one-loss team trying to get into the playoffs. If you are 5-7 at the end of the year, the SoS trophy is a sorry consolation prize.

  • ExecutorIoh West Jordan, UT
    June 30, 2014 11:25 a.m.

    It wouldn't be summer in Utah without Ute fans helping to make BYU Football articles so popular.

  • truthsandwich RANDOLPH, UT
    June 30, 2014 11:23 a.m.

    @Uteanymous

    Yes they did, and it was fun to watch. It will be interesting to see if they can do it again this year.

    Hill tends to struggle against good teams.

    I still expect them both to put up great numbers this season. The schedule is very soft.

  • Pavalova Surfers Paradise, AU
    June 30, 2014 11:04 a.m.

    Gosh don't you know that the U is part of an elite conference now. Just by being part of a Power 5 conf means that every game played is much more difficult than non-power conferences. That's the elitest mentality at it's finest. Just look at how often teams from the SEC or ACC travel out west to play.

    Doesn't matter if it's Iowa State, Utah, Kentucky, Kansas, or some other bottom feeder, as long as you're a member of the "he man woman haters club, you don't have to play anyone else"

  • Uteanymous Salt Lake City, Utah
    June 30, 2014 10:50 a.m.

    truthsandwich

    They both put up big numbers against Texas - 555 total yards rushing - the most rushing yards the Longhorns have EVER given up.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    June 30, 2014 10:35 a.m.

    Good luck to JW...the player this article is about. I don't think the article ever mentioned mediocre Utah (very few articles do these days lol).

  • truthsandwich RANDOLPH, UT
    June 30, 2014 10:19 a.m.

    He's a quality player.

    He, along with Hill, should put up big numbers this year.

    Especially against Connecticut, Virginia, Nevada, Middle Tennessee, UNLV, and Savannah State.

  • Marked it Down Park City, UT
    June 30, 2014 10:03 a.m.

    JohnInSLC

    "...so you want to compare bowl records?"

    What would be the point?

    BYU has played more ranked teams in bowls, than Utah has played bowls.

    Utah has almost always played in one of the lower-tiered WAC/MWC bowls and the Utes have never managed to qualify for a bowl in 10 straight seasons, something BYU is poised to do for the 2nd time in their history in 2014.

  • Foul-hunter Omaha, NE
    June 30, 2014 9:19 a.m.

    If Jamal can stay healthy, he should have no problem breaking Unga's record. The Y's offensive line is much better and the Y's schedule is pretty conducive to such an event. However, Jamal runs with his head down and will be prone to concussions. My take is that he will have his bell rung a few times this season and he will be a little more cautious when flying into the holes like he can and does so well. I hope he stays healthy.

    Go UTES!

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    June 30, 2014 9:07 a.m.

    Yes JohnInSLC, go ahead and post bowl records during the PAC12/Indy era. If you have to go back to the entire Bronco/Kyle era than you have to conceded "WAC-y mid-major" competition. If you want to talk entire history you have to concede everything else (BYU's award winners, national champs, consistently ranked, etc.). I don't see this working out too well for you.

    Go Cougs!

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    June 30, 2014 9:05 a.m.

    Yes JohnInSLC, go ahead and post bowl records during the PAC12/Indy era. If you have to go back to the entire Bronco/Kyle era than you have to conceded "WAC-y mid-major" competition. If you want to talk entire history you have to concede everything else (BYU's award winners, national champs, consistently ranked, etc.). I don't see this working out too well for you.

    Go Cougs!

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 30, 2014 8:54 a.m.

    scott:

    Oh, so you want to compare bowl records?

  • LonestarRunner Salt Lake City, UT
    June 30, 2014 7:52 a.m.

    Todd Christensen -- 5x Pro Bowl selection (1983, 1984, 1985, 1986, 1987), 2x Super Bowl champion (XV, XVIII) -- was a running back at BYU and started his NFL career playing full back for the Dallas Cowboys, before breaking his leg in the final exhibition game of the season.

    Todd switched to tightend when he played for the Oakland Raiders.

  • scott Alpine, UT
    June 30, 2014 7:38 a.m.

    JohnInSLC

    And the Utes will be spending another bowl week watching from the comfort of their couch as BYU plays in their 10th straight bowl game, something the Utes have NEVER achieved.

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 29, 2014 11:18 p.m.

    "Tell me the success stories of utah's RB's in the NFL."

    darren:

    You mean like Pro Bowler Jamal Andeson, and Nfl Rookie of the Year Mike Anderson? And lets not leave out Chris Fuamatu-Maʻafala's eight year career.

    Midmajor:

    And the Cougs will be losing another irrelevant bowl game. yay?

  • Jeff29 Draper, UT
    June 29, 2014 11:17 p.m.

    I love when all the Ute trolls disparage BYU's "WAC / Mid-major" schedule and then go onto justify their inclusion in the PAC-12 based on their success in a, well, mid-major conference. When was the last time the U had a winning record? When they played in a mid-major conference. The hypocrisy is so think it would be humorous if it weren't so pathetic.

  • midpacmajor Salt Lake City, Utah
    June 29, 2014 10:58 p.m.

    navelvet

    Phil Steele's 2014 Top 40 Countdown

    #38 BYU

    unranked Utah

    The Utes will be playing in their 3rd straight couch potato bowl.

  • idablu Idaho Falls, ID
    June 29, 2014 10:50 p.m.

    Anae"s formula for success: First 2 plays up the middle for little gain, 2 yd screen pass , then punt.

  • Uteanymous Salt Lake City, Utah
    June 29, 2014 10:42 p.m.

    JohnInSLC

    Evidently you've forgotten that ALL of Utah's past glories, as sparse and mediocre as they were, came against WAC-y mid-major competition.

    In 49 seasons in the WAC/MWC, the Utes only managed TWO 11+ win, Top 25 seasons.

    BYU has had THREE 11+ win, Top 25 seasons since 2006.

    Call us when the Utes actually accomplish something in the PAC besides slapping PAC 12 stickers all over town.

  • Uteanymous Salt Lake City, Utah
    June 29, 2014 10:34 p.m.

    Naval Vet

    Feel free to dust off another shelf in your hall of fame closet for Utah's latest SOS trophy and slap another PAC 12 sticker on something if it helps U sleep at night.

    Meanwhile, BYU will continue qualifying for bowls, adding to their national rankings totals, and actually achieving something more worthwhile than simply being cannon fodder for the big boys of the PAC.

  • Uteanymous Salt Lake City, Utah
    June 29, 2014 10:23 p.m.

    JohnInSLC

    "Now tell us, how many times--last century or this--BYU has produced a No. 1 overall draft pick?"

    #1 draft pick is NOT a national individual major college football award.

    Of course, we wouldn't expect Utah fans to understand that, since no Utah player has ever won a Heisman, Doak Walker, Outland, Davey O'Brien, Sammy Baugh or any other national individual award.

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 29, 2014 9:45 p.m.

    Wiscougar:

    Evidently you've forgotten that all of BYU's past glories (collective and individual) came against WAC-y mid-major competition, too. They don't count either.

    Cheered!

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    June 29, 2014 9:08 p.m.

    RE: JohnInSLC

    Oh, bummer for you that your No. 1 pick and undefeated seasons all happened against WAC-y mid-major competition so they don't count. You need to keep up with all the anti-byu trolls who inform us of as much multiple times a day. Oh, and FWIW, we have had a national award winner this century (Staley). Cheers.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    June 29, 2014 8:24 p.m.

    Steven Jarvis:

    "Seriously, the argument about BYU's schedule is really foolish. Its still going to be a top-50 schedule with seven teams on it that went bowling last year."

    Phil Steele already put out his preseason SOS. The indy-irrelevant WAC-wannabes' schedule was ranked #73. That's not "Top-50". That's bottom half. JW's stats should be off the charts on account of THIS schedule. That is some weak SOS.

    "Eleven wins during the regular season should be enough to go to one of the New Year bowls."

    Not with THAT schedule you won't. You wouldn't even get one with 12 wins. You're going to Miami. Period.

  • Ronald Uharriet SWun City, Ca.
    June 29, 2014 8:14 p.m.

    It sounds like a fantastic running game season again.

    Will we ever be remembered again, as the QB factory with the West Coast Passing game?
    Will we ever be remembered again as the Tight End Catching game that often got us into the end zone? Could Jim Mac Mann and Ty Detmer made it in today, offensive play calling?

  • Darren Rowe Heber City, UT
    June 29, 2014 8:06 p.m.

    @AZUTE1

    This article is focused on the success of these RB's in college, not the NFL. But if you want to play that game, let's do it.

    Tell me the success stories of utah's RB's in the NFL. And I don't want to hear who made a roster, any school has plenty of that. I want to hear the RB's who had lots of success.

  • Uncle Rico Sandy, UT
    June 29, 2014 7:58 p.m.

    Anae said it because he's confident in his offensive line this year. let's hope he's right. I wish we could play Utah 12 times this year, he's get his record for sure.

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    June 29, 2014 7:39 p.m.

    It wouldn't be summer in Utah without projections of impending BYU football glory.

  • Guam_Bomb BARRIGADA, GU
    June 29, 2014 7:21 p.m.

    "BYU’s offensive line has more combined starts than any group returning in the NCAA." Yet they still haven't proven that they can get it done up front against the big boys. The fact that Williams is even in this position is a testament to his talent. I hope BYU has a good season. But they sound exactly like they did last year, a lot of talk without much to back it up in the regular season. Last year they lacked the heart and mental toughness to win the big games (the University of Houston win was not a big game) against big teams. The coaching BYU coaching staff hasn't proven that they can get that type of effort out of a very talented team. How about less talk in June and more results in the fall.

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 29, 2014 6:47 p.m.

    "Utah, which has never won a national individual award of any kind."

    talkin':

    Thank you for the last-century history lesson. Now tell us, how many times--last century or this--BYU has produced a No. 1 overall draft pick? Or, had more than one undefeated season?

    Hint: Rhymes with never.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    June 29, 2014 4:16 p.m.

    I'd be interested in hearing all about the NFL careers of all of these RBs mentioned w/in this article....Anybody?

  • Steven S Jarvis Orem, UT
    June 29, 2014 3:29 p.m.

    @trolls

    Seriously, the argument about BYU's schedule is really foolish. Its still going to be a top-50 schedule with seven teams on it that went bowling last year. Texas, UCF and Boise State have all won "BCS" games. Houston and USU are pretty good right now. Those five games are all strong opponents. MTS will likely be around the same strength winning 8-9 games, while I expect Nevada will be back above .500 while UNLV just below.

    The bad teams are Cal, UConn and Virginia; however those squads are supposed to be "power five teams". I am pretty excited to play all three of those squads and Savannah State. Even the perceived bad games are something most of cougar nation will enjoy.

    IF BYU wins, they will be rewarded. Get to six, go bowling. Get to ten and be ranked. Eleven wins during the regular season should be enough to go to one of the New Year bowls. Get all twelve and BYU will likely advance to the playoffs.

  • Wayne Rout El Paso, TX
    June 29, 2014 1:00 p.m.

    Don't expect any changes. The offense will be runs up the middle, quarterback draw, and passes far down field. This will be another 8 or 9 win season.

  • Stringer Bell Henderson, NV
    June 29, 2014 12:01 p.m.

    He seems like a fine young man and very good athlete. I don't see where any pressure is coming from other than manufactured by the author of this article. Do your best and have a great year.

  • talkinsports Gilbert, AZ
    June 29, 2014 11:49 a.m.

    Gotta laugh at CB's desperate attempt to shift the discussion from the possibility of Jamaal becoming BYU's all-time leading rusher.

    To do that Jamaal would have to surpass a BYU player who was the best running back in the nation his senior season, winner of the Doak Walker award, an accomplishment that is inconceivable for a program like Utah, which has never won a national individual award of any kind.

  • Who am I sir? Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 29, 2014 11:39 a.m.

    46 carries for 163 yards. Not bad stats for a running back in a game? But for the top five running backs mentioned in the article combinred professional careers?

  • B C Park City, UT
    June 29, 2014 11:28 a.m.

    Following Chris B's line of reasoning that every player who plays a particular position at a particular school is destined for the same fate as his predecessors, Kendall Thompson and Travis Wilson are destined for the same injury-plagued, career-ending meltdowns as Jordan Wynn.

    Why did Wynn miss most of his junior season and why didn't he play his senior year?

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 29, 2014 11:22 a.m.

    Williams is a proven commodity. Anae's the one that should be feeling the pressure; he's the one who'll have to call the right plays. With that schedule and good play calling, it could happen.

    I sense a new t-shirt slogan!

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    June 29, 2014 9:45 a.m.

    He'll do well, if for no other reason than byu's schedule is so utterly weak....He's talented but won't receive a great deal of resistance by their opponents....Independence, gotta love it! Lol

  • Bountiful Guy Bountiful, UT
    June 29, 2014 6:56 a.m.

    I would like to see play calling to be consistent with Coach Anae's assessment. Taysom Hill could become an option QB instead of the predictable QB-draw player he was last year. Taysom Hill could opt for passing to crossing patterns, seam-running by tight ends, RB's over the middle, and quick slants. And we mustn't forget a great running game, too. We could have an offense that really mixes it up. All the players and tools are here. When nothing is available, he could option himself for a scramble for 10-30 yards. How fun would this kind of game be? It's all up to you, coach. Win games. Don't concern yourself with individual records. Great teams focus on the strategy of a game plan and the records tumble naturally.

    Go Cougars.

  • Common-Tator Saint Paul, MN
    June 29, 2014 6:21 a.m.

    Will be great to see a multi-faceted offense this year.

    When I asked my then 8-year-old son, if he had to start a football team from scratch, which positions would he go after first, he thought for a moment and said, "Offensive line." How profound. If this line lives up to their capabilities, it could be one incredible year both through the air and on land!

    And is it just me, or does anyone else think "Chris" was born with a sour pickle in his mouth?

  • Taysom4Heisman Heber City, UT
    June 29, 2014 12:02 a.m.

    @Chris B

    Unga decided to return for his senior season, but then he was suspended and expelled from school for honor code violations. He applied to be re-admitted, but was denied, forcing him to try to make an NFL roster. So his "decision" to leave early was more because he didn't have a choice.

    Unfortunately for him, by the time all these events played out, the NFL draft had already taken place, so he went to the supplemental draft, where he was drafted.

    As we all know, it has been a rocky road for him ever since.

    As for your comment on Williams thinking BYU was a division 2 school (which you mention a little too often), it doesn't really matter. He came to BYU didn't he? He is having success at BYU isn't he? I honestly don't care what he thought as long as he came.

  • 54-10 Salt Lake City, UT
    June 28, 2014 11:55 p.m.

    Good back with both speed and power.

    Good luck to him.

  • Herbert Gravy Salinas, CA
    June 28, 2014 9:09 p.m.

    The only "pressure" should be self-imposed and to just do his best on every play. Nothing more, nothing less. He, nor anyone else, should not be "worrying" about any records!

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    June 28, 2014 7:55 p.m.

    "just me getting into my grown man body."

    Classic.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    June 28, 2014 7:18 p.m.

    Why didnt unga play his senior year? He wasn't even drafted in the nfl draft so leaving early was not the best decision

  • Steven S Jarvis Orem, UT
    June 28, 2014 6:05 p.m.

    I will be thrilled with an average above 100 yds/game this year. If Williams takes the record this year it will be icing on the cake.