"If you make minimum wage you live on $1,300 a month before taxes get taken
out. Before tithe. Can you save anything? Can you afford to rent
anything?"And if you do the math.... that comes out to a little
less than $38 a day for food, shelter, transportation, insurance, clothing.....
or about $265 a week. Tough to save for anything with those kind of wages.
Thank you for creating a cookbook for those struggling with fewer resources.
This is one more way to help people help themselves. When someone is struggling
to make ends meet, time and energy are drained, which affects the ability to use
limited food resources efficiently. I remember being poor as a kid, and we
often turned to boxed food. It was cheap, and easy for my siblings and me to
cook while Mom was working long hours. I wish that we had had this so help us
create more nutritious meals.
It does not really matter if the $4 a day is from the SNAP program or a persons
wage. It is hard to eat for that. If you make minimum wage you live
on $1,300 a month before taxes get taken out. Before tithe. Can you save
anything? Can you afford to rent anything?
@Tully Bascomb" Require those who receive govt. assistance for food to
attend cooking classes"Over half of those on food stamps are
children, seniors, or the disabled. The rest either are or should be working
(while often being those raising kids too) and you want them to attend some
arbitrary cooking class too?
"It is not mere coincidence that this is also the term of Obama's
presidency."I am sure it IS purely coincidence that these
numbers exploded during the largest recession we have seen in 100 years.... I am
sure that has absolutely nothing to do with it.Good grief, can we
turn the radio head comments turned off, please. "hey are **always** doomed
to be inefficient, insufficient and generally, ineffective." Yes, the FAA
is a debacle. The Military, impotent. Coast Guard - dangerous. FDA - waste of
time. CIA, FBI - contractors are better.In my ward, we have
families that we know don't do all they can to help themselves. Is the
bishops storehouse program a travesty because there are those who take advantage
of the system?Tully... I really am impressed that you and your
partner live on 4 dollars a day... that your entire food budget for a month is
about $120 dollars, and you can afford to buy fresh produce on that.... I am
very impressed. $28 a week for groceries is impressive. I hope you see that
raising kids on $50 a week is a challenge for many.Why we must delve
into politicizing everything...
We were on food stamps while in college for a couple months back in the late
1970's when there was a lot LESS food assistance available, and we were
blown away by the abundance of monetary value in our food stamps. They equaled
almost more than TWICE what we were accustomed to spending on food.If food
stamps are so sub-standard, why are so many users selling them for half of face
value for cash? We are approached at least once a month by someone in a
Wal-Mart parking lot offering to sell their EBT or SNAP card for half what they
claim is the remaining balance on the card. We also have quasi-regular scandals
involving stores and businesses who accept such cards in exchange for cash, even
thought this is of course against the law.Not to mention the regular use
by so many using food assistance cards in our friendly local gambling
casinos.....I'm often confused with the alternating messages we get
in the media: Most American children are overweight and then the next week we
are informed that "38% (this varies of course) of American children go to
@ samhillInteresting theory. Here's an alternative: we have a
socialist/ capitalist hybrid system that has worked to bolster the income and
returns for the managerial and capital-owning class while keeping the working
class underutilized and poor through among other things, a complicated tax code
and unaccountable bureaucracy. It's cheap and low-rent to blame a
particular president for a problem that has thirty+ years of momentum behind it,
but hey, no one's ever accused Republicans of intellectual sophistication.
@ samhill -- The reason why food assistance is the entire budget for some
families is that they spend most of their income on rent and transportation.
Some of the poor also live in "food deserts," something the article does
not mention. It's one thing to shop for nutritious foods in your friendly,
affordable, suburban store. It's another to live where no such businesses
exist. If you only have public transportation and your feet, you're going
to be limited. Time poverty also exists when people are holding
down multiple jobs, are single parents, etc.It's not too
difficult to figure this stuff out, if you exercise your compassion, instead of
just venting your spleen. As for the rest of the political
propaganda, I don't have the time to overcome intentional ignorance.
Sally--I think the time poverty comes from working two or three low paying jobs
just to pay the rent. Also, a lot of people on food stamps are single mothers
and you just don't have as much time with only one adult to do all the
necessary things. However, I agree with you that much of this could be overcome
with more training about cooking simple meals that don't take too much time
but are also cheap and high in nutrients. It isn't the way the most people
in our culture cook and the knowledge needs to be re-learned. I think that poor
people 50 years ago probably knew how to do it but it somehow hasn't been
passed on.Everyone I have personally known who was on food stamps
said that they got more than their family really needed to eat. However, this
was in lower cost-of-living areas and with people who had basic cooking skills.
I think that if you live in a higher cost of living area it is harder. In any
case, I would not be opposed to lowering the amount of money given out for food
I'm skeptical about the $4 a day part. I know a family of four (mom, dad,
and two young kids) who receive about $800 a month from food stamps. It's
ridiculous! I spend about $240 a month for my (small) family and feel like we
eat just fine. And we could definitely find ways to cut back if we needed to.
Budgeting isn't really that hard.
$4 a day for food, huh? I assume that's per person, too. Well, that
doesn't sound too bad. It's almost twice what we spend for food. My
wife and I have wondered sometimes how difficult it would be to go on food
stamps and almost double our food budget.In reality, one of the
challenges that many on food stamps face is they do not know how to cook. Many
times diets consist of prepared food that is both expensive and not the most
nutritious (usually high in sodium, sugar, etc. . .). In this situation it is
difficult to buy enough food on $4/day per person. Additionally, in a household
where both parents work, and in single parent households, sometimes time to
prepare food can be an issue.I suggest a partial solution: Require
those who receive govt. assistance for food to attend cooking classes where they
learn to prepare food that is both less expensive and more nutritious than what
they might otherwise eat. Then the amount of food stamp assistance could be
decreased (saving $$$), people would hopefully eat more healthily, and, uh,
maybe a few jobs would be created (pay people to teach the cooking classes).
What utter nonsense!As mentioned, this is called the Nutritional
Assistance Program because it is meant as just that. It is **not** intended to
fund the entirety of someone's food expenses. Nor should it.Like all other "assistance" programs, of which there are many, SNAP
has grown incredibly during the last few years. It is not mere coincidence that
this is also the term of Obama's presidency.Observing the the
continuous blossoming of these various forms of income/wealth redistributions,
all part of the socialist formula for government administered
"equality", I am increasingly convinced that, like so much else from our
taxes that drip back on us from those all-wise and all-knowing government
managerial types, they are **always** doomed to be inefficient, insufficient and
generally, ineffective.More than anything else, these various
programs are merely manifestations of the highest ideal of governmental
agencies, of all organisms really. That is, of course, self-preservation.And, when it comes to governments, that is best done through continually
increasing power and influence. Which, conversely, means a continually
decreasing power and influence by those subjected by government. Namely, the
people. More specifically, each one of us.
Time poverty? We all have the same 24 hours per day. Many of us have learned
to use crockpots so meals are ready when we need them. Prep time is the night
before or on the weekends. Many of us live on tight budgets and time, so we
learn to adjust our lives to meet the needs of our family. Great time for
children to learn new skills in cooking and organization. It also helps in
reading and math skills.
A better question is why do we have 47 million people on food stamps and why do
we have so many citizens putting up with a president and congress that are the
main reasons for such. I find it it stunning at a minimum that so many
otherwise intelligent human beings would act as if there is nothing that can be
done about it. I want those 47 million eating like the kings that Americas,
freed from government greed and a tyrant's joy should be experiencing!