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Published: Friday, June 27 2014 7:00 a.m. MDT

Updated: Friday, June 27 2014 9:41 a.m. MDT

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patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

for many inner big city kids - no father in the home - they really have a steep hill to climb to get out of the hole they were born into HOWEVER telling them they are a victim is NO HELP at all but that is the liberal mind set. What these kids REALLY need is male role models in their life - someone to give them positve direction and encouragement and then ALLOW them to work themselves out of the hole. Hard work builds and gives a sense of self esteme and hope while victimization stagnates and destroys. No one is stopping a kid from working or learning - both of those things are free of charge and just take determination. That determination is fostered by the right encouragement and support. There must be at least a safe enviornment for these kids - away from the gangs and drugs - and that is something I feel the state government is responsible for providing.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

All I know is that since Obama came to power, the number of poor people has grown greatly in America! Median income has fallen, the number of food stamp recipients have doubled, food and energy prices have gone up drastically and the economy continues to shrink! Given these unfortunate facts, one can rationally conclude that Obama creates poverty! Who's fault is it? People who voted for him!

JoeCapitalist2
Orem, UT

Times are tough. People who grow up in poor neighborhoods certainly have some big barriers to overcome. But there are too many success stories out there of people with little or no resources to start with who rose out of those circumstances to say that poverty is out of our control.

Wealth may not be an accurate measure of who is the hardest working, the smartest, or took the most risks, but if you put 100 successful people against 100 poor people I would be willing to bet that on average the successful people did a lot of things that the poor people were just unwilling to do.

I have sympathy for someone who is "down and out" but I have a lot more sympathy for someone who is struggling but is also doing their very best to rise above their current circumstance.

MaxPower
Eagle Mountain, UT

The headline reminds me of the line in a Disney cartoon

"You should have thought of that before you became peasants."

Every situation is different. In some cases it their fault, others it was circumstances beyond their control. However, in all cases, the Scriptures are clear we have an obligation to help them. The Sheep and Goats are largely divided on how the under privileged in society are treated.

Hutterite
American Fork, UT

Yes. In this state you can.

Ted H.
Midvale, UT

Its much less important who is to blame and more important who is responsible to improve the situation of someone. And that responsibility lies within each of us to help ourselves.

GZE
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

Can you blame the poor for being poor? Obviously, you can as many people do. How does assigning blame help?

Say What?
Bountiful, UT

Can you blame the poor for being poor? Of course you can. They need to educate themselves to become a CEO and then apply for the job.

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

Blaming the rich for the poor being poor is worse than blaming the poor for being poor

James E
Tooele, UT

Like most problems there is more than one cause. Of course people make bad decisions that hurt their circumstances and of course some people are born with enormous advantages. But during the last little while, the government has been actively destroying opportunity through regulations and stupid immigration policy. Changing attitudes aren't necessarily because of increased sympathy, it's recognition of a changing situation.

National Review Online has an excellent study about how the net increase in jobs has gone entirely to new immigrants since 2000. I'd link to it, but the DN won't let me.

Kindred
Mesa, AZ

"...most respondents favored job creation and equal educational opportunity as ways to close the growing gap between rich and poor." It appears that I agree with most respondents. I also think we need to change our mindset in the country such that we value honest hard work more than we currently do. The wrong way to go about it is to forcibly redistribute wealth.

Kings Court
Alpine, UT

To say that. The poor are lazy for not being middle class is like saying that millionaires are lazy for not being billionaires. In reality, there can only be so much money cycling through the economy. The notion that everyone can be well off is absolutely impossible. Also, a capitalist economy based on consumerism will not function if most of the wealth is held by a small percentage of people. This is just economics 101 folks.

Richard Larson
Galt, CA

To quote one of the greatest military
minds the Royal British Navy ever produced:

"There is no shame in being poor!, Only in dressing poorly!"

(Lt. Bunny Wigglesworth aka Ramon De La Vega)

Brer Rabbit
Spanish Fork, UT

I am not saying that the poor are lazy, but I am saying that much of the poverty is rooted in cultural perceptions. For example poverty can generally be avoided for those that 1)avoid drug use including alcohol and tobacco. 2) avoid teen pregnancy which often puts not only the mother in poverty but the child also. 3)avoid out of wedlock child birth which also affects mothers and children. 4) graduate from high school, which isn't really that hard.

To further avoid poverty those that get an education beyond high school have many options. For those that can't afford post high school education there are plenty of government programs to help them.

Finally if the government would slow or stop the flood of cheap legal and illegal labor into the United States who are in competition with American workers, wages would increase for lower and to some extent middle income workers, further reducing poverty. It appears that the U.S. government and many of the citizens are more concerned with the poverty south of the border than poverty in the United States, and insist on importing more poverty.

In my opionion poverty is rooted in these cultural issues

GaryO
Virginia Beach, VA

"Can you blame the poor for being poor?"

Not as a general rule, no.

Face it, people who are born rich usually continue to be rich as adults.

And if you're poor, your chances of eventually being rich are not nearly as good as someone who was born rich.

GaryO
Virginia Beach, VA

Mountan man -

"All I know is that since Obama came to power, the number of poor people has grown greatly in America . . . "

That's because Obama came to power at the beginning of GW's Great Recession, in the most horrible economic climate experienced since the Great Depression of the 1930's.

Blaming Obama for GW's massive malfeasance causing GW's Great Recession is absolutely ludicrous.

And then there's the fact that "Conservatives" oppose every possible Democratic initiative that would have helped this nation recover, like Obama's 2011 Job's Bill, which if implemented, would have had this nation sitting pretty right now . . . employing millions building badly needed infrastructure and in support industries.

"Conservatives" continually prove their willingness to harm this nation if they think it can somehow discredit the Obama administration.

Yes, that's right, the Republican campaign of domestic political terrorism has been quite successful in keeping this nation down.

GaryO
Virginia Beach, VA

Mountan man -

"All I know is that since Obama came to power, the number of poor people has grown greatly in America . . . "

That's because Obama came to power at the beginning of GW's Great Recession, in the most horrible economic climate experienced since the Great Depression of the 1930's.

Blaming Obama for GW's massive malfeasance causing GW's Great Recession is absolutely ludicrous.

And then there's the fact that "Conservatives" have opposed every possible Democratic initiative that would have helped this nation recover, like Obama's 2011 Job's Bill, which if implemented, would have had this nation sitting pretty right now . . . employing millions building badly needed infrastructure and in support industries.

Republican obstructionism, essentially a campaign of domestic political terrorism, has been quite successful in keeping this nation down.

What in Tucket?
Provo, UT

Yes let's blame GW for everything. GW tried desperately to stop the real estate bubble from happening went to congress something like 17 times yet Barney Frank and the Dems including Obama would not reign in the real estate boondoggle. All Obama had to do was cut red tape instead of piling it on, reduce corporate taxes and simplify the tax code, try for a balanced budget and we would have bounding prosperity. Instead we have this enormous national debt and welfare burden which encourages people not to work.

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