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Published: Wednesday, June 25 2014 5:25 p.m. MDT

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Robert Johnson
Sunland, CA

Yeah Gary, lets waste more of Utah's precious tax dollars fighting a law that is clearly unconstitutional and will be struck by the Supreme Court if it ever gets there. The USSC clearly indicated last year that it will not uphold state laws that ban marriage equality. This is why Scalia was so vitriolic in his "writing on the wall" dissent. This is just a complete waste of Utah's resources.

Frozen Fractals
Salt Lake City, UT

Funny how there's been two main arguments this week, both centering on people asking a question again and again regardless of how many times authorities say no, and almost everyone is on one side for one and the opposite for the other.

There You Go Again
Saint George, UT

"...The cost of taking the case to the U.S. Supreme Court won't be a problem, Herbert said...".

And then the Gov. admitted...

"I don't know what the cost will be to fund that effort...".

He doesn't know what the cost will be?

Why is it that Republicans always have the money to fund pet projects?

Republicans have told voters that Democrats are the only ones guilty of funding pet projects.

Ogden, UT

Should the Governor decide to appeal, the cost of that travesty of justice should not come from the State's budget. If he wants to "do the deed" (and try to deny Utah citizens their Constitutional rights) then get like-followers to fund it. Set up a separate fund that people can contribute to (without otherwise reducing their true tax liability) and let them bear the cost. Don't waste the State's money on it and don't make Utah's citizens pay the price of the perfidy.

Somewhere, IL

I;m surprised he is not trying to appeal the the 10th circuit "en band" he could drag out the inevitable defeat for another year.

Go Big Blue!!!
Bountiful, UT

I'm pretty sure that those that are complaining about appealing the case to the Supreme Court would be all for it if the appeals court had ruled the other way. This needs to be taken to the Supreme Court for final resolution.

Logan, UT

How much tax money does Gov Herbert have to spend to finally learn marriage equality is inevitable? Stop beating the dead horse!

The Real Maverick
Orem, UT

So we don't have enough money to clean our air, maintain state parks, or fund education but yet we somehow have enough money to move the prison and continue with frivolous lawsuits?


A Quaker
Brooklyn, NY

So, what will the good Governor say if the Supreme Court simply denies the State's petition for a writ of certiorari? Will he try to complain that it's not really final because the Court hasn't reviewed it, despite the fact that at that point it's settled law?

Well, I do think the State should hurry up and file that petition ASAP. The sooner they do that, the sooner we find out if the Supreme Court will grant cert, or whether the Tenth Circuit's affirmation and order will be the last word on the subject.

Rockaway, NJ

Taking this to the Supreme Court is a huge gamble, one the governor could easily lose. SCOTUS is under no obligation to grant cert to Utah. Indeed, the current Court could easily decide to let the 10th Circuit ruling stand. Then every state in the 10th would get marriage equality in one fell swoop. And considering the Windsor decision and the repeated citations by federal judges of Scalia's prediction (must infuriate him every time he's cited) about marriage equality, it's more than likely SCOTUS would decimate Amendment 3 once and for all—and Governor Herbert's name would be on the decision (the case is Kitchen v Herbert) making marriage equality the law of the land.

As much as I think he's usually an idiot, Pennsylvania Governor Tom Corbett (he's a republican, remember) got it right. When PA lost in federal court, he decided it was a losing battle and a waste of taxpayer dollars. After making this decision, his popularity actually went up. Go figure. (BTW, parts of Pennsylvania are far more conservative than Utah. That's how Rick Santorum, the frothy mixture, was elected—one time—to the Senate.)

one vote
Salt Lake City, UT

Poor sports analogy.

Big Bubba
Herriman, UT

Go get 'em Herbert! Restore traditional marriage in Utah and save us from the tyranny of lower courts!

Columbus, OH

Appealing is worth every penny. This is one of the issues of the ages. So much is at stake here. It is not close to a dead horse. The minority wants redefine marriage, something that was not created by government and therefore is not government's to redefine. The people of Utah and of the USA for that matter, have spoken. Yet, radical, liberal judges feel fit to defy the constitution and legislate from the bench. LET THE PEOPLE DECIDE. NO WHERE does the constitution mention marriage. Marriage is not a constitutional right for same-sex couples as some claim. Stop attacking the institution of marriage.

Salt Lake City, UT

Our leaders will spend millions to fight this losing battle. And yet, they won't spend that same money to improve our schools or healthcare systems. Sad.

slc, UT

another badge of dishonor we will get to carry throughout history, it is sad that the governor seems to have not learned from loving v virginia.

Cleveland , OH

All caps?


"judges feel fit to defy the constitution and legislate from the bench. LET THE PEOPLE DECIDE. NO WHERE does the constitution mention marriage. Marriage is not a constitutional right for same-sex couples as some claim. Stop attackin"

Laura Bilington
Maple Valley, WA

Gary Herbert is not stupid. He has advisers well versed in law and he knows the handwriting is on the wall. But he also thinks there are more anti-SSM than pro-marriage equality voters out there who will support him when he runs for re-election if he grandstands about "playing until the final buzzer".

Notice that it's not his own money that he's spending fighting a battle he knows he'll lose.

I don't like Chris Christie. But he--and Tom Corbett---knew when to quit. Herbert does not.

Jefferson, Thomas
Bluffdale, UT

Here's hoping that in my lifetime we have a governor that knows where they stand on an issue. That within the same news conference can remember whether he is for something or against it and why. The classic, wet-finger politician is growing so so tiresome. Oh how some of us long for a principled leader who knows where they stand and where they stand is RIGHT.

Josh McCray
Salk Lake City, UT

It is the responsibility of our Judicial System to protect the rights of ALL American citizens under the constitution EVEN IF state legislation would limit those rights. This is a lesson learned from our past.

Salt Lake City, UT

'Price tag for defending Amendment 3 to reach $2 million' – By Lisa Riley Roche – Deseret News – 12/27/13

'Study: Gay weddings could bring $15.5 million to Utah economy' - By Lindsay Whitehurst | The Salt Lake Tribune - 04-24-14

I wonder why this comment keeps getting denied?


Regardless, cost to Utah tax payers to keep trying to defend this pointless move against gay marriage? $2 million dollars +.

Income projected to generate due to gay marriage in Utah? $15 million.

It's really very simple.

-$2 million or + $15million.

Which is greater?

When making debt an issue, one should not take 'moral' stances on topics that, yes, in fact do GENERATE, more debt!

Mr. Herbert, stop wasting our tax dollars on your loosing battles.

Or you will not have to care, about 2016. We will get someone who will put the well being of Utah, above their petty grievances.

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