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Published: Tuesday, June 24 2014 4:50 p.m. MDT

Updated: Tuesday, June 24 2014 4:50 p.m. MDT

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But seriously folks!
Salt Lake City, UT

Let's see if I have this straight. State auditors ruled in favor a state institution and against a religious school.

Deseretina
Murray, UT

Does it ever get tiresome hiding behind the discrimination charge? Math textbooks!? Fall in line with the race baiters religionists. If you don't get your way, oh well, it's not your fault. It's just discrimination.

carman
Wasatch Front, UT

Something does smell fishy here...and the conclusion is that subjective factors were significant in the selection. Sounds like bias was not an unreasonable assertion.

Riverton Cougar
Riverton, UT

I wonder if this has anything to do with the math wars that has been going on for a while (math teachers should know what I'm talking about). I know where BYU falls on that issue, but I don't know where the U falls.

southmtnman
Provo, UT

"Let's see if I have this straight. State auditors ruled in favor a state institution and against a religious school."

Sure, because State Government is much more of a homogeneous ideological unity than BYU, right?

Give me a break.

Brave Sir Robin
San Diego, CA

And BYU's persecution complex lives on....

USNGary
San Diego, CA

Now I see why utah high school seniors aren't that great at math....As a recruiter there for 4 years it was tough seeing the seniors struggle with math.

chazkron
Salt Lake City, UT

All the people they asked said they were "totally not biased." Case closed.

Kings Court
Alpine, UT

Wait! You mean the federal government didn't make the math books as the anti-common core folks try to make us think?

NT
SomewhereIn, UT

I can speak from experience. As a math major who transferred from the U to the Y, I found the curriculum at the Y to be MUCH MUCH more difficult, and the environment to be quite a bit more competitive. I did enjoy the quantitative analysis series at the U, though...application over theory for me any day!

I guess that really has nothing to do with this article, though..lol

disclaimer: at the Y I changed from Math to Computer Science, which seemed a good way to go 30+ years ago.

JoCo Ute
Grants Pass, OR

Just another arena, in addition to sports, where BYU was cheated. Cry me a river.

1Reader
Sunnyvale, CA

"judgment"

Still Blue after all these years
Kaysville, UT

ALL state RFP's are written with a pre-selected bidder in mind. Just the way it is.

JWB
Kaysville, UT

The AG's office of Shurtleff and Swallow were involved in this audit? There are good people in that office but to take two years for this to finalize is tragic for the process and credibility of both Universities. Where was the outcry with the long drawn out process when the AG's office was without a rudder to guide the ship? How many other processes were stymied by a lack of integrity within an office?

Silent Lurker
Cottonwood Heights, UT

@nt I am sure nothing has changed in the last 30 years since you were in school1 It is too bad that the people who made the allegations don't have to pay for the cost of the audit. I am so tired of this discrimination attitude of BYU fans and graduates, do they classes on how to claim discrimination when you don't get their way?

Flashback
Kearns, UT

Of course all the auditors were graduates of the U. So no surprises there (I'm kidding).

Johnny Triumph
American Fork, UT

Amazing that Govt is one of the few places in society where conflicts of interest are OK. The Legislature funds text book creation, creates a committee to award the contract, awards the contract to a state funded university, then reviews the complaints after the award. Just amazing that we allow it. And I'm not holding that BYU's stance is correct, only that there's no way to be impartial on the matter for the state or a state run university.

still_thinking
Draper, UT

Did I get this right? The decision was based on non-quantifiable subjective criteria and the auditors did not feel they were in a position to judge subjective decisions. So they found no merit to a claim of bias because the decisions that were made weren't based on verifiable criteria? So in reality they didn't find the claim had not merit, they just declined take a position. Government agencies are not allowed to pick vendors just because they want to. Government RFP processes require verifiable decision criteria to avoid this exact situation. I think the fact they made the decision subjectively actually validates the claim.

Dan Taylor
Keyser, WV

Yeah isn't it funny how state sticks with state? For BYU to persue this, there must have been some wrong doing that just couldn't be proven. Another example of trying to fight city hall! Gosh it happens everywhere even in Utah.

Duane Callahan
SANDY, UT

How can you not be biased when criteria is subjective? Selection should have objective criteria that is point based and could easily be reviewed by peers or an audit. Since it wasn't the selection committee and it's method of selecting should be replaced

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