happy2bhereI am not insisting on anything but when you look at a
broad picture of years and years of governing we tend to look to our presidents
as the real leaders weather it is in creating problems or solving problems.Furthermore I voted for Reagan but I believe his legacy is overrated
when you consider he tripled the federal debt, something Obama will never do.
Even Carter had higher job growth rates than Reagan and GDP growth rates were
similar. Reagan would maybe fit in the middle of the previous four or five
democratic presidents. Indeed that is better than any other republican
president. It definitely can be a mixed bag and timing is important but on
balance the nation does better economically under democratic presidents, I say
again those are the facts.
louie I blame Dodd/Frank. I did not blame Reid and Pelosi, but if
you insist that Bush was the fault of 2008 only, then the team in Congress gets
to go along for the ride. That is the only logical way to see it. If however,
you blame the Republican Congress, during the Clinton years, then you must
credit them for Clinton having a pretty good economy. You can't just pick
and choose who you want to blame or credit for the good or the bad. All players
on the field have to take some responsibility. As for economies being bad under
Republican Presidents, I'm sorry to hear that you must have been in a coma
during the 1980s. We had one of the best economies in history back then under a
Republican President. His name was Ronald Reagan. Finally, history really is
not relevent to today. Today, Obama has run up 7 trillion dollars in debt.
That is a fact that could ruin the American economy. It's a brave new
economic world we live in. Or, in the case of Obama, a stupid new economic
"happy2bhere"I beg to differ with your assessment.
especially your suggestion that Pelosi and Reid had something to do with the
economic collapse of 2008 Think about it, the republicans controlled both
houses for twelves years prior to 2007 including six year with president Bush.
Absolutely no action taken during this time; in fact, non-action probably
enhanced the housing bubble. So you now blame Pelosi and Reid. This is utterly
ridiculous and makes no sense. On another note all the empirical
evidence suggest better economic growth during democratic presidencies over the
recent years or going back even 90 years, this includes job creation and stock
market growth So if you have an IRA or are looking for a job think seriously
who will best represent your interests.
"...Mitt Romney had a plan for the 2002 Winter Olympics...".For starters...He didn't have people asking for his birth
certificate...Or...A legion of well financed people
promising to sink his every effort from the beginning.
louieSorry, but those are not the facts. Some Republican presidents
have done very well with job growth. And some Democrat presidents have failed.
In fact if you look at Bush (W), he did quite well bringing the economy back
from an inherited (from Clinton) downturn. And, he had the added downturn from
911. No one can claim Bush was bad for the economy during the majority of his 8
years. If you want to argue the 2008 crash was his fault, and only his fault I
will remind you of Dodd/Frank signed by Clinton, and the fact that in 2007 Reid
and Pelosi had control of the purse of America. 2008 was not a short term
problem, but a growing one going through at least two administrations. And for
the record, Bush is on the record as publically warning of the danger of the
housing market and all the bad mortgages. But as I said, that fell on deaf
Pelosi and Reid ears. You see, it ain't all Obamas fault, and it
wasn't all Bushs fault.
Once again the D-news editorial board fails miserably. How about some
The moral to the story is... anybody who casts Romney in anything but a negative
light, will be vilified by some. Same goes for any article about Obama. Seems
we have learned nothing.The partisans are as bitter as every... and
he's not even running for ANYTHING! The mear mentioning of him makes them
bristle with anger.I wish we were better than this.... but we
To "louie" probably all the scientists that are NOT funded by the
federal government to tell them that man is the cause of global warming.
"RedShirtCalTec"I wonder how many Cal Tech scientific types
agree with your promoting Romney on climate issues, what a joke.
What makes one think a republican agenda would produce more jobs when all one
has to do is look at their track record. During the democratic presidencies job
growth has consistently been better than under republican presidencies. You can
go back forty years or go back ninety years. It does not matter, job growth has
clearly been better with democrats and those are the facts.
To "Midwest Mom" and what has Obama's wealth done for him?
Remember Obama went to a private highschool in Hawaii, then went to an elite
college before going to an Ivy league college. How many common people have had
that experience? Obama doesn't even realize that most people don't
have the funds to travel to Hawaii every year for a few weeks. Tell
us, why is it that Romney who served as an LDS Bishop and worked with people
that had employment problems, marital problems, health issues, and other problem
is so out of touch with Obama who has never directly dealt with people like
To "Open Minded Mormon" and what has Obama done differently than the
GOP?He is:anti-science (claims warming when cooling has
occured)anti-environment, (pushes Ethanol which encourages bad farming
practices)anti-minortity, (black unemployment rate is highest in
decades)anti-healthcare, (health insurance benefits have DECREAED under
Obamacare while rates rise)Pro-assault weapons, (Obama has given assault
weapons to every branch of the Government)Pro-Death Penalty, (gave kill
order for Obsama)Pro-War, (Obama encouraged or supported 5 separate new
wars)Pro-Police the World, (Continues all Bush era international
policies)Pro-Gitmo torture, (He keeps club-Gitmo running 5 years after
being elected)Pro-Spying on Americans, (Made the patriot act look like a
really clumsy peeping tom)Pro-Corporation (Obama's policies have
benefitted his corporate buddies more than anybody else)You complain
about the GOP, when Obama is doing the EXACT same thing and worse. So which is
it. Are those things bad or not. If you just hate the GOP for being the GOP, I
can respect that. However, listing things that the GOP does the same as Obama
as justification for hating the GOP is not a respectable trait.
If Romney were to run this Novemeber it would be a 49 state landslide for him.
Americans were slow to wake up to the empty suit Obama, but they are at least
@David 5:02 p.m. June 24, 2014It appears to me that the country
examined Romney and Obama, recognized that they both were bad, and voted for the
least worst candidate. Romney was much, much worse for the country than Obama
could ever dream of being, even with the attempts by the far right to make him
fail.Personally, I wish the country had done what I did -- write in
a GOOD candidate for president. i wrote in Jon Huntsman, Jr.
I don't care who the Republicans nominate. If the American people by now
have not seen the error of their vote for not only Obama, but Democrats in
general, and don't vote Republican next time, the country will be over as
we know it anyway. Our debt and GROWING entitlements, both old and new
(Obamacare. Border children. ect.) will bankrupt us or tax us so much that the
producers will not bother to produce anymore. Human nature will kick in and the
once great and unique American idea of individule achievement and progress will
disappear. More sitting in the wagon than pulling it. Welcome to 2nd world
America. Owned and paid for by China.
Substance over style in 21st century America? Thats funny. Tell me another.
"America should look beyond slogans and smooth presentations"America did! Thankfully! That's why Mitt Romney lost in a big way!
Judging by the amnesty stuff being kicked around, the refusal to increase min
wage, the resistance to green technology, and the crushing of unions, I would
say we have far too many businessmen in Washington DC. Let's
get someone in there who cares about the people.I'm tired of
everything being geared towards business.What's best for
business is not what's best for people.
Another Romney article???Seriously?!Dnews, how many
times must such a tired retread Romney be rejected by the American people before
you folks get a clue? We don't like him. He cannot win.Why
doesn't the dnews actually promote a candidate who has appeal? A candidate
who could possibly win? Why not promote someone who is actually from this state?
Oh I don't know... Maybe a certain Jon Hunstman Jr?
Really? Another attempt to push on us the man who was so clueless
that he got completely pasted in Electoral Votes, while having no concession
speech prepared?Another attempt to push on us the man who insulted
much of America?Another attempt to push on us the guy who squeaked
over to liberal positions to win in Mass., then got "severely
conservative" for the convention?Mitt, in my observation, thinks
he would be a good President, but it was Ann and mormon duty that pushed him
toward something he quite obviously did not have his heart in.I can
understand the want of lds people to have a mormon president, but you
haven't given America a candidate it wanted.
@John Katell, I can see that you're a glsss is 1/4 full type person whereas
I would say the glass is 3/4 empty, as the economy is concerned.The
Chinese are on shoring jobs because, using all the money that they have
accumulated from us buying goods made in china, they are now buying up the US.
Stock market is up because the fed continues to print money to prop it up. The
dollar is slowly losing world reserve status.The internet is a good
source for news outside the mainstream media; It is good to hear more than one
perspective on what is going on in the world.For those longing for
the prosperous Clinton years, Bill Clinton is a major contributor to why the
country is in the economic mess that it is today. His repeal of the
Glass-Steagall act allowed the Banks to merge investment and commercial banking.
Bush contributed greatly to the mess, lest anyone think that I'm blaming
Appearantly Karl Rove and the rest of the FauxNews listeners are still
predicting Mitt Romney by a landslide.They'll spin it now to
say - They just weren't telling us WHAT election cycle they were talking
Furry1993,If you believe Americans correctly vetted Romney and did
not award him the presidency, then there is certainly a conflict because
Americans voted Obama into office but certainly didn't vet him correctly.
Obama has been one of our poorer presidents. So could Americans vote and vet
with regret? They certainly did in 2012.Romney would have been so
much better. I agree with the writer here: give Romney the presidency. There
is no one in the field better qualified, experienced, and ready...including
The headline for this article says my thoughts exactly. I may have used
different words, I would have American people listen with their brains and not
just their ears. Listening to Fox News at lunch is a regular thing
and I have tried to do what I can to keep the raw hate from upsetting me. Right
now I am trying to hear any actual facts, so far the count is zero. It appears
to me that Fox News is using a strategy to destroy President Obama by having
well known and high political personalities voice their opinion which many of
their viewers will take for fact. I recall the lady next door once
say that "it must be true if it's in the newspaper, they wouldn't
print anything that wasn't true". Of course I'm a
little bit prejudiced, so try it yourself.
The country already regrets not having elected Romney, and Romney would be by
far the best candidate from either party, but he won't be elected as long
as he hoards his wealth. He would have been elected in 2012 had he developed a
reputation for spending his money to improve the country. Let him open, or
contribute substantially to, centers for entrepreneurism, especially in inner
cities. Let him set an example for the other wealthy people in this country, who
ought to be improving society instead of buying more mansions. We
definitely need a new direction in the country. Let's hope Romney
demonstrates more personal dedication to helping those in need and educating
youth about free market economics. If he does, then most of the country will be
happy to elect him President.
Wouldn't it be funny if we discovered that "Bob Fuehr" was actually
Mitt Romney's pen name?
Romney is not the one.The old guard GOP has the money but can no longer
inspire the voters.America is looking for candor and leadership. We
haven't seen that from either party in at least a couple of decades.The democrats are buying votes (student loan forgiveness/minimum
wage/amnesty/[insert minority here]rights/income equality) and will probably win
again.We are in a position where we will not vote for what we need and the
GOP will not put forth and teach conservative ideas.
The love affair continues.
Bob Fuehr did you drive through Pueblo Colorado on a Friday night and smash
through a big green cloud. Clearly you must have because you cannot possibly be
clear of mind. Did Mitt promis you something for this? I bet he did! I would
guess you are hoping for a nice fat goverment position. I would just bet money
you want to be in the White House.You really need to step outside of
yourself and read what you have posted.
Mitt Romney ran the Salt Lake Olympics with a surplus only because of an influx
of federal money for upgraded security so soon after the 9/11 attacks. In his
own book, Turnaround, Romney acknowledges the central role of the federal
government in making the Olympics possible. "No matter how well we did
cutting costs and raising revenue, we couldn't have the Games without the
support of the federal government," he wrote. Imagine that.Romney was successful in Massachusetts because he had a Democratically
controlled legislature that cooperated with him. Massachusetts law required
that all state budgets be balanced, and the current fiscal year was already more
than halfway over when Romney assumed office. To close the deficit, he asked
for, and was granted by the state legislature, emergency powers to make
unilateral cuts in the fiscal year 2003 budget. Can you imagine what President
Obama could have done with just a little such cooperation? Romney's greatest achievement while governor was the passage of a health
care program that was the blueprint for the current Affordable Care Act that he
and so many conservatives love to demonize today. Ironic isn't it?
apm22sparks, NVWe need someone like Mike Lee to run for president.
We don't need the old guard/aristocracy anymore. We want men and women of
substance and true character to represent us.10:20 a.m. June 24,
2014========= I'm game.Please nominate Mike
Lee!BTW -- Walter Mondale had a better chance of winning the Geneal
"Romney . . . the ‘unofficial’ leader of the Republican
Party."Really?And who officially made Romney the
unofficial leader?Or is the act of saying "he is the unofficial
leader," make him the unofficial leader?How unofficial is it
anyway? Can DN designate anyone to be the unofficial leader?That
would make DN the unofficial creator of leaders, wouldn't it?Do
the people he is leading even know their unofficial leader is Romney ? . . . And
do they really like the idea?
"The failures of Barack Obama over the past five years, have demonstrated
the need for someone with the education and business experience to right what is
wrong with America."And Mitt Romney is your solution? He would
run Ameirca like he ran Bain Capital?So in other words, the United
States is going to launder illicit Cocaine money from Central America.Interesting.But why don't we just make it legal and tax it?
. . . And skip all the subterfuge?
With a President Romney, different issues would become predominant.Widening economic inequality would become a powder keg for the nation, with
potential social unrest as a serious possibility.National
demographics suggest a Democratic advantage. Heavy Gerry-mandering in a lot of
states mean a Republican House. (Given that more votes were cast
nationwide for Democratic House candidates, with the result being a lopsided GOP
majority, it could be strongly argued the House represents the people less and
less. This is always a problem in a democracy.)The Senate could go
back & forth.
"I would propose the GOP reconsider a seasoned candidate with the ability to
jump-start our stagnant economy, Mitt Romney."======= The GOP considered, Twice.The GOP selected, The American
popluation decided.Look, If the GOP is only going to recycle
and regurgited the same old, same old...over and over again -- I've got
some advise...The definition of insanity is doing the same thing
over and over again, and expecting the results to be differrent.Here's a hint:Try something new or different.And one
more free bit of advise:Nobody wants to go back to the reign of horror of
GW Bush.Good luck, and remember - may the best man/woman win.
The silly irony is the assumption that our choices were only Romney and Obama.
America has the leadership it deserves. The parties now own the
political process. The voice of the people has been bought and paid for. Stick
a flag in the middle and mumble random references to God and the masses
follow.Romney in Wisconsin campaigned on Sunday. His contempt for
the working poor was just cause for him to lose the election. He
may be a good man, in many ways, but his wealth has removed him from the plight
of the common man. He is not qualified to lead "the people."
The VA problem goes back even before George W. Bush. Bush's pull out date
for Iraq was Dec. 31, 2011. I do not get this obsession with WWRD? (What would
Romney do?). He had no specific plan to increase employment, except the usual
conservative mantra of cutting taxes for the rich and cutting entitlements,
which have little to do with stimulating economic growth. Romney helped with the
success of the 2002 Olympics, but only with the over $1 billion in federal funds
for infrastructure and other funding for the games. He even told the athletes
they did not do this all by themselves, but due to the help of others (including
government). I do not know what Bob Fuehr would suggest we should do in foreign
policy - military intervention in Syria, Crimea, Ukraine, Egypt, and back into
Iraq? How did that costly intervention work during the Bush years? What effect
did the trillion dollar cost of those interventions have on the economic crisis?
The comments on this article are refreshingly liberal.... love it!
I wish this newspaper ever printed anything from a different political
perspective. I think Deseret News thinks it is Fox News. 99.9% of everything
published is a rehash of "Obama is the cause of all our woes." It gets
We need someone like Mike Lee to run for president. We don't need the old
guard/aristocracy anymore. We want men and women of substance and true character
to represent us.
He doesn't. He doesn't have good ideas to jump start the economy. We
vetted his ideas last time; they were simply more tax cutting for rich folks,
deregulation, trickle down Bushisms. Let's be done with this
'businessmen know best' nonsense. We know what a Clinton economy looks
like. Yes, please, let's go back to those ideas.
I wouldn't mind having Romney as president as long as it isn't another
Bush-Cheney disaster. It's not Obama who is juvenile. It's the tone of
this letter. When I think where I was in 2009 with everything collapsing
including our business and my 401K, and that where we're moving along
robustly now, I'm grateful Mr. Obama has provided the right formula. Go
back to Bush-Cheney? No thank you.
This comment thread is so silly liberal. Comments from John Kateel and Open
Minded Mormon make me wish Mitt Romney or someone of his equal (man or woman)
would run again more now than ever, even if many say he isn't planning to
do so. It continues to boggle my mind how "anyone" can
defend the Obama admin. actions over the past six years and that includes former
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. Twenty to thirty years from now, the Obama
admin. will go down as two terms of complete futility and failure in history
books. The ME in flames, income equality at highest levels ever,
Obamacare in fact killing jobs and small business growth (contrary to Kateel,
our economy is growing at a stagnant pace and U.S. debt is out of control), VA
scandal, IRS scandal, far overreaching gov't control and privacy issues
(NSA), you name it. But yet, none of this matters to those who
simply refuse to look at facts. Flabbergasting.
Please, please, please nominate Mr. Romney. Please.
Gag!What? 2 1/2 years of 24/7 campaiging just isn't enough?Look, If the GOP can get SERIOU, come up with some ideas,
Build rather than destroy, make some intelligent proposals, LEAD, rather being the party of : anti-science, anti-environment, anti-minortity, anti-healthcare, Pro-assault weapons, Pro-Death Penalty, Pro-War, Pro-Police
the World, Pro-Gitmo torture, Pro-Spying on Americans, Pro-Corporation, banning this, that, and the other thing, forcing
everyone to choose the right [Lucifer's plan]and playing
continual obstuctionist,we hate Obama - vote for us....They
would not need to play dirty politics, ripping and mudslinging to win anything.
The problems at the VA are a result of a politician being in the cabinet? Remind
me: which political post did General Shinseki come from?Mr. Romney
has said he is not running. Let the man have some peace.
Enough, already. I really wonder why the DesNews is trying so hard to
rehabilitate Romney. The people of the United States have already vetted
Romney, seen what he really is, seen what he really thinks about anyone who
isn't well-to-do, discovered his many deficiencies, and (thankfully) sent
him packing. We are lucky that he was never inflictted on the country and the
world. Bas as Obama may be, Romney would have been infinitely worse.
"America should look beyond slogans and smooth presentations"There is no data to back the dubious assertions made in this
"editorial".This entire article is composed of slick slogans
and smooth presentations.
Mitt Romney does have a lot of business accomplishments.I would love
to have a smart, capable businessman like Romney to take on a problem and
determine a solution based on the information learned.But, this is
politics. Romney's hands are already tied.He MUST talk lower
taxes.He MUST talk about increasing our military spending.He MUST
talk about shooting verminHe MUST bash entitlementsRomneys
business sense and experience are irrelevant. They have been trumped by party
There are many ways I could go negative with this piece but this statement is
particularly obscure: "Looking back, it’s easy to see the folly in
President Obama’s juvenile foreign policy of being overly nice to our Arab
friends as we ignored the only real democracy in the Middle East,
Israel..."What "Arab" friends is he talking about? If
he is thinking of the Saudis, Obama has been much more arms length than Bush.
Also, it is not clear what he means by the label "Arab." Is that a
religious category? Racial? Ethnic? Obama has tried his best to
avoid sectarian conflict. He's done that quite well.Moreover,
the only way Obama has "ignored" Israel is by not bombing Iran - thank
goodness for that. Moreover, I'm afraid Romney would give the
Israelis cart blanche because of his (Romney's) religion. I think Romney
is a smart guy, but I would be wary.
Actually, Israel's main regional foe is getting sucked into a two pronged
civil war. Iran's support for Assad and Shiite dominance in Iraq is going
to draw in ISIS militants to attack covert Revolutionary Guards in Iraq at some
stage in the future. That will embroil Iran for years and help Israel.
Russia's economy is circling the drain. The ruble is plunging. The Chinese
are on shoring manufacturing to the USA for the first time ever. America is
dominating everything positive. We are the Saudi Arabia of oil and natural gas
because of directional drilling. Personal debt is down, savings are up, the
stock market is up, and wages are finally going up. Our exports are at record
levels. Healthcare reform has led to an entrepreneurial boom. Our tech industry
dominates the world. Tesla is changing the car industry with 91.3% US content
and the Boeing 787 Dreamliner is out selling the European Airbus A350. America
is at its apex. God Bless America and God Bless President Barack Obama.