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Utah Jazz include Derrick Favors in offer to Cleveland for No. 1 pick, report says

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  • Kakashi Tokyo, Japan
    June 24, 2014 6:44 p.m.

    somehow...i am not sold on Wiggins and/or Parker...i dont think they are cant miss superstars...potential for wiggins yes...for Parker...probably an all-star...but a player that would be able to lead a team to a championship...im not sure about that...Favors...i hope that i am wrong...but i feel like he'll be an Eric Dampier...an athletic version...i hope he improves on his offensive skills...Hayward...the glue guy...accepted the fact that this is his ceiling...he cant and wont be able to lead us to the championship...but he'll be a piece that we need to get there...what we need...is a guy like joakhim noah...who has passion for winning...and does everything for the team...i hope that Favors becomes more vocal and shows more desire...and then we need a go to guy...right now we dont have one yet...but trading a defensive anchor, an always improving player on Alec and 5th and 23rd picks for a guy that can score and create for himself...i think its too much...if it were Kanter and somebody else..maybe i'll bite

  • CJ Miles Dallas, TX
    June 24, 2014 2:55 p.m.

    Best Idea ever. The Jazz have no one on their team that can lead them towards a championship. They need a superstar. Parker and Wiggins at least have that potential. All those on the Hayward bandwagon, get off it. Favors is a good big man but that doesn't win championships. How many has Dwight Howard won? Kobe, Michael, Parker, they win championships. Yes Duncan has a bunch too and Favors will never be a Duncan. I would trade the entire team to get Wiggins or Parker.

  • Jazz Source Alpine, UT
    June 24, 2014 2:46 p.m.

    @ Americanvet

    I actually wasn't really comparing them in the truest sense but more making the point that many believe that Wiggins demonstrates the physical gifts that could allow him to get there. Elite.

    Is there anyone here really thinking that Favors is going to be a number one option offensively? Most GM's believe Wiggins WILL be. There is the difference.

    The Jazz never get the chance and I agree Favors AND Burkes may be too much but I would certainly consider our late 1st round pick with Favors if I could get my hands on the #1 pick.

    The reality is that if Favors and Burkes both develop into solid role players do you see them carrying a team? Burkes maybe but Favors offensively is already 4 years plus into his NBA career. Still young yes but his offense and work is on him. You can't put all that on Corbin. Favors got the minutes and progress is very slow offensively.

    Wiggins might be the guy and at worst he is just a solid role player but if he is that guy who turns into elite league talent then the Jazz could actually be taken seriously.

  • xert Santa Monica, CA
    June 24, 2014 1:31 p.m.

    Leave it alone. Derrick and Alec are flat out loved by Jazz fans and they are great people. You throw them over for a guy who might wiff, or maybe leave your team after a couple of years and you better believe that your mistake will be compounded by Derrick and Alec becoming all stars. Don't keep shuffling the cornerstones of your team off! Nobody can tell what Wiggins and Parker will be, but I will tell you one thing--neither willed their team to a National Championship. Derrick looked just as strong as either of these as a college player and he is panning out. Give it time. Draft Embid if he is available and know you got the guy who was thought of previously as the #1 pick. Then hope for the best with his foot. There are good players in this draft but no can't misses. Don't remove the key cogs of a tough and talented team. If you whiff, it will take years to recover. And this year? Whiffing is a distinct possibility. Who knows? Maybe Randle or Voneh will be the gems of this draft!

  • AFCoug Colorado Springs, CO
    June 24, 2014 1:08 p.m.

    Jazz should take the Lakers bait and take on Nash's $10M contract and the 7th pick. Only way Jazz rebuild is through the draft! Once you have #5 and #7 package those together for Clevland and get the #1 pick while keeping Favors. Lakers still will not sign Lebron and Anthony together and the Jazz win. They keep Favors and get the #1 pick. If that doesn't work they still have #5 and #7. Get Vonleah(#5), Gordon(#7), or Randle(#7) and grab a SF or SG. Maybe Exum (#5), Hood (#7), or Lavine(#7). Maybe you even get Smart at #5.

    Imagine the starting 5 of
    Favors
    Vonleah/Randle/Gordon?
    Hayward
    Burks/Hood/Lavine?
    Burke/Smart?

    Instant depth at every position and an easy increase or talent and wins.

  • Americanvet Ivins, UT
    June 24, 2014 1:06 p.m.

    @Jazz Source
    I agree with you that this team needed some bold moves and Lindsey is willing to be that kind of GM. However, Favors, Burks, the 5th and 23rd picks are too much to give up for the first pick in the draft. You tried to compare Favors and Burks to LeBron, CP3 and others and that's just not realistic. You're talking about the best players in the world. But also remember, Favors and Burks could only get as good as Corbin allowed them to become. I think most Jazz fans could see the potential in these 2 guys even though Corbin couldn't. For that reason Corbin is not with the club anymore. I want our young core players to get a chance now to play for a coach that will develop them to their full potential. I don't want to see the Jazz trade them and then watch Cleveland benefit with our young talent. Wiggins/Parker should be very good players, but they are still unproven. Let's use our 5th pick to get one of the other good players that will be available to us there.

  • Jazz Source Alpine, UT
    June 24, 2014 12:13 p.m.

    @yabuts & @joe5

    Where is the hostility for Lindsey coming from? Here we have Jazz fans constantly lamenting about the team never doing anything bold and now there is discussion that we have a GM to do the very definition of bold and he is desperate?

    Ya, desperate to win.

    I like Favors and I like Burkes too BUT do you include either of them in the same discussion of Lebron, Durrant, Westbrook, CP3, Steph Curry, Derrick Rose?

    You don't get many chances to get your hands on a potential superstar....and Wiggins stands as good as chance of being that player as any drafted in the last 5 years and anything on the horizon in the next 5.

    The Jazz are near the top of the draft with their #5. If you aren't there then you don't have that as a bargaining chip to move up. If we improve slightly we draft even lower next season.

    The team has to strike while iron is hot.

    Personally I was tired of the endless mediocrity that Jefferson and Millsap brought. They are decent players taking their teams no where that matters.

    Go big or go home.

  • ImABeliever Provo, UT
    June 24, 2014 12:07 p.m.

    Glad I am a Golden State Warriors fan living in Utah even though not that keen about how the NBA is run anymore.

  • SlopJ30 St Louis, MO
    June 24, 2014 11:41 a.m.

    "Let him and Hayward leave. The Jazz will be better off without either one."

    And replace them with who?? The phrase "let them leave" sounds like you should eventually let them both walk as free agents with no compensation at all. While they obviously have plenty of improving to do, they're both young enough to get considerably better, especially if the team around them improves. Neither are likely true franchise guys, but how many players are?

    I'd love to hear realistic alternatives for replacing them . . emphasis on the word "realistic."

  • yabuts Springville, utah
    June 24, 2014 10:52 a.m.

    If they trade Favors, I surely do hope they get rid Lindsey!!! On the other hand, it would give us a chance to watch yet another of the Jazz players he has traded play in the post season.

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    June 24, 2014 10:05 a.m.

    Throw in Greg Miller and now the Jazz have the makings of a decent trade.

  • VeraLouise Sandy, UT
    June 24, 2014 9:36 a.m.

    This is making me crazy! Are we going to keep on rebuilding forever because we let go those we have been rebuilding on and think there "might" be somebody better out there? We want a player loyal to the Jazz, but is the Jazz loyal to its players? I realize changes need to be made for various reasons, but please not Favors or Burks. They are forming a good solid base from which to grow. Even with the fifth pick, the Jazz have several good prospects to select from and develop along with our core group. It takes the time it takes, but don't start all over again from scratch. Oh well, whatever.

  • Sneaky Jimmy Bay Area, CA
    June 24, 2014 9:33 a.m.

    I suspect they will end up with Joel Embid since no one else wants him.

  • John Wicks Salt Lake City, UT
    June 24, 2014 8:35 a.m.

    Favors is not as good as some people think. Let him and Hayward leave. The Jazz will be better off without either one.

  • Idahotransplant West Jordan, UT
    June 24, 2014 8:17 a.m.

    Defensively, to me that would be a mistake to trade Favors. As shown last year, defense wins games and Parkers defensive skills are not the best. Favors was the bright spot defensively for the Jazz. If you want to offer up someone, offer up Kanter as he was a revolving door at times. Dennis Lindsey knows what he is doing so until after the 5th pick on Thursday, this is all speculation.

    Remember people! The jazz have assets to obtain free agents as well possibly so I would not be surprised to see something else occur.

    If I were Parker, with the LDS population here, I would not want the pressure.

  • SlopJ30 St Louis, MO
    June 24, 2014 7:29 a.m.

    Andrew Wiggins is far from can't-miss superstar. Teams seem drunk on his athleticism, and at worst he seems like he'll have a long, solid career, but the hype machine is writing checks he'll be hard-pressed to cash. The kind of trade the Jazz are apparently considering is something you do for a clear-cut alpha dog. Whiff on a trade like that and you set yourself back five years, at least.

  • joe5 South Jordan, UT
    June 24, 2014 6:34 a.m.

    One thing I loved about Kevin O'Connor is that he never seemed desperate and so he usually came out pretty good with his deals. Lindsey has never seemed anything except desperate so I believe he ends up paying a premium for each move he makes.

    IN all honesty, I think this draft is about six players deep for what the Jazz should be looking for. I think they could be very happy with Embiid, Wiggins, Parker, Exum, Vonleh, or Gordon. So why would the Jazz give up so many assets to target Wiggins above all the others? Is he really worth Favors, Vonleh, and Burks? He couldn't even carry his college team to the championship even though they had as much talent as anybody in the country. What makes the Jazz think he can carry an NBA team to the promised land?

    There must be things we aren't seeing as fans. Perhaps the Jazz are really close to getting Tomic in the fold so they can spare a center (Favors). Or maybe there is some buyer's remorse that they overpaid for Favors with last years contract. Who knows? As Coleman said, let's wait and see.

  • BumperDogg Madison, WI
    June 24, 2014 5:56 a.m.

    It's going to take a long time to rebuild if we keep developing our young talent, and then trade them before they peak for even younger guys.

  • scalman Temecula, CA
    June 24, 2014 5:39 a.m.

    I don't want Favors traded...he's just too valuable. And, if Favors and Burks are traded, that might be it for me as a Jazz fan. As I've said before, if they decide to move Kanter, I would probably be supportive.

  • Americanvet Ivins, UT
    June 23, 2014 11:42 p.m.

    Favors Burks and the 5th pick are too much for Wiggins or Parker. Favors is getting better every year and the team has him locked up for 4 more years. One of Corbin's biggest blunders was not playing Burks enough. Hopefully Quinn Snyder will rectify that situation and Burks will get enough minutes to show how great he is. I would actually rather trade Favors than Burks and expect right now that Burks has the most potential on this team to be an all star.

  • Kakashi Tokyo, Japan
    June 23, 2014 11:22 p.m.

    i hope they dont do this....this kind of stories...makes people become not loyal to the club...especially when you think about burks' contract next season...i would rather trade...Enes Kanter and the 5th Pick...and leave it at that...nothing more nothing less...Favors is a key Cog for us defensively in the middle...and Alec Burks is an all-star waiting to happen...

  • themailman provo, UT
    June 23, 2014 11:08 p.m.

    obviously there are pros and cons to this trade scenario. first of all, losing players like favors and burks who are two of our most promising prospects is a gamble. both of these players have shown a lot of improvement and potential, but more importantly have seemed to have found a home in salt lake. picking up a player like andrew wiggins is enticing, but at what price? sure he has made statements like, "i will be a star wherever i go." but how long does that mentality last? could we potentially have another d-will falling out? I think that if we are to give up two core players along with a #5 draft pick we need to make sure that the guy we are investing in isnt just a great player, but somebody who will be committed to a small market team long term. in today's game it is easy for players to have limited perspective and get fed up with a small market team that has years of rebuilding left to do.

  • coleman51 Orem, UT
    June 23, 2014 10:50 p.m.

    Let's see what really happens, this may all be a distraction. I don't believe that the Jazz will give what Cleveland really wants and so this becomes nothing more than interesting talk. I think the Jazz are covering up something and allowing this trade talk to dominate the airwaves. Just be patient, Jazz fans. This could be all smoke and mirrors.

  • pocyUte Pocatello, ID
    June 23, 2014 10:48 p.m.

    If the Jazz feel that Wiggins or Parker are franchise type players, then they should do whatever they need to in order to make it happen. Favors has multiple all-star potential, and Burk a solid but never better than a 3rd option. That is absolutely a trade to make. I will be disappointed if the Jazz don't pull the trigger at that because the feel the price is too high.

  • bradleyc Layton, UT
    June 23, 2014 10:35 p.m.

    We want Parker!

  • amormonboi Waltham, MA
    June 23, 2014 10:22 p.m.

    @Thriller and Desnews, Please quit posting you want to trade hayward for picks in the draft. Hayward is a restricted free agent and the Jazz can't even talk to him until July 1 about being with the Jazz, let alone trade him (he is not under contract...). And no, they can't work out a deal to do it after they sign him, that is dishonest and against league rules and will get the Jazz fined.
    Favors and Alec is too much. Favors, and #5 and a future pick (I would restrict it to not be top 6), is okay, but not Favors and Burks. too much. Seems like a good deal for Cleveland to get #5, #23 and Favors to give us #1. If we could get wiggins or jabari seems hard for us but we have to stretch to get that legit franchise player/star. I love Favors and would be sad to see him go, but I'm glad the Jazz are at least offering this, weather or not the other team accepts it.

  • rvalens2 Burley, ID
    June 23, 2014 10:09 p.m.

    I sure hope this isn't true. I don't want to see Favors and/or Burks get traded even if the Jazz could get Wiggins.

  • Thriller Saint George, UT
    June 23, 2014 9:32 p.m.

    Sign and trade Hayward, #5, and #23 in exchange for Jarrett Jack and #1.