Why didn't Brett Olsen look over the fence from front or sides?? Why
didn't he identify himself in a loud voice as a police officer?? Make some
noise bang on the fence??? Dogs have good hearing...Or Call Sean???....Why
don't we get answers to this???? Yet you managed to call Sean Kendall after
Geist was murdered???....
Occasionally someone exhibits the kind of behavior that indicates that they lack
the character, personality, and/or temperament to properly handle the job they
currently have. Regardless of excuses and justification by politicians, allies,
unions, coworkers, etc., the proper course of action is to separate such
individuals from their current employment so they are free to pursue careers
that better fit their particular qualifications. It's reality, and
it's a fact of life--and one that requires definite appropriate action.
In my work, I have occasion to enter on the premises of dogs. I have
always been met by the dog with cautious curiosity which turns to acceptance
once I have stood still and exercised patience and allowed the dog to check me
@Flashback...All I hear now is crickets! Apparently I was dead on regarding your
This reminds me of a case we dealt with before I retired. Cop came to a home
for a child welfare check. Home owner's five-pound chihuahua ran up to the
cop, barking furiously. Cop responded by emptying his entire can of pepper
spray on the dog, as well as managing to spray the whole family including the
child he was checking on. Stuff got into the heating vents and the whole home
had to be decontaminated. My point is, legal justifications aside, some people
simply lack the good judgment and quick thinking to be cops, and someone who
sees everything as a threat to his safety probably shouldn't be carrying a
gun or pepper spray. (And we got a five-figure settlement from the city for the
client. Not a huge amount, but everyone agreed it was fair.)
re:aghastwhat the officer did was very wrong and unjust. There are
so many things here that warrant that the police dept be fined - the officer
disciplied - and the dog owner given very generaous compensation for his loss.
Barging into some someones private property and killing his dog who by the way
was doing what any good dog should do and that is protect and defend the home.
This is careless and even lawless behavior by the officer who could have and
should have been more careful BEFORE entering the property and also been
carrying some sort of pepper spray. Dogs are part of the family and losing them
is tragic. No one is suggesting the dog is the same as a human being but you
don't see the police dept making any excuse for this officer either.
If the child was in her home the entire time why wasn't her house searched
How is it the meter reader got into this backyard and dozens of others with no
My little 12-lb terrier, the sweetest dog around, barks defensively when anyone
unknown comes into the back yard, whether dog, cat, or human. Is she the next
one to get shot for acting viciously in defending her own back yard? Because we
all know how violent and vicious both terriers and weimaraners are.
Coming from a law enforcement family with friends on the job I say to you with
all clarity this is a rogue cop. He is a danger to his fellow
officers and anyone he comes in contact with. He should be fired. He lack of
judgement is staggering.
Bottom line. There would be NO dog murder if the officer had not violated Mr.
Kendall's 4th amendment rights. It was illegal entry into a secure gated
fenced yard. The child wasn't seen or heard in the yard. Reported on or
around the house. Could not have opened then closed the gate. Tunneled under or
climbed over the fence. Mr Kendall wasn't a suspect. Further there was no
other physical evidence like a torn piece of clothing etc on the ground to
indicate a child was in the yard.....The officer should be
terminated and charged with 2 felony's and trespassing....
I have a female Golden Retriever, kindest dog in the world. When another person
goes down the ally she barks, tail up, hair on neck standing up. Appearance is
aggressive, but if you come face to face she stops wags her tail and will be
your best friend. If you don't know Golden's you would be intimidated.
That being said, the officer was not justified in his actions. He did not have
reasonable knowledge to enter the property, pulled his weapon and displayed a
pure lack of judgement. He needs to be held accountable through disciplinary
action, the department needs to provide restitution for the pain, suffering and
mental anguish of the owner and develop a policy for these types of situations.
@Flashback...Well the D.N. monitors are at it once again with their censorship
so I'm down to my last opportunity to retort. (Probably shouldn't even
use the one exclamation point). Sir may I say yet another highly intellectual
and eloquent post. Did you happen to be present when this dog was shot? (Keep in
mind this is a rhetorical question). Seems to me that you should follow your own
advice and "get off the backs" of those that support this dog owner and
are against the ever growing number of trigger happy cops. Especially in this
city! In closing, as a defense attorney I can guarantee with certainty that you
are or have been a police officer. Can spot you all from miles away. Am I
correct about your police background?
No one is saying pets are humans and are literal members of the family. But to
say "What's the big deal -- your dog got shot, get over it" is
ridiculous. The dog was not loose. It was in its own yard. The cop should NOT
have shot it. He could have pepper sprayed it or he could have backed away. I
don't think the officer should be fired, but he should likely be
reprimanded unless there are some facts that we are unaware of.
@Hahaha -- If you can't see the difference between a living creature (no, I
agree, it's not a human) and a pair of shoes.....well what more can I say.
I guess I can only hope you never own an animal.
Dogs, cats, hamsters, snakes, gerbils - are not human. Some are under valued,
some are over-valued, but none are as valuable as human life, limb and health.
Maybe it was excessive - we may find out - but please do not terminate somebody
for protecting themselves. Consider the big picture here - I am sure the
officer had the right to protect health and well being.
The fact is that we don't have all of the facts. The dog's owner
deserves a full accounting of what took place. The police department should
make a full investigation. Then the facts should be used to determine what if
any action needs to be taken with regards to the officer. It is also a good
time for the department to review its training procedures to minimize the use of
deadly force while protecting officers. Yes, people are more
important than pets. However, I can't believe the lack of sensitivity of
some of the comments, especially from the dog haters. Thank goodness they are
not police or dog shootings would be more common.
What should we infer by "...the dog began to act aggressively"? Over the
past 31 years, Weimaraners have accounted for 1 fatality in the United States,
the same number as Collies (AKA Lassie). In contrast, Pit Bulls accounted for 13
deaths in the first half of 2013. Weimaraners are considered very safe dogs.
Even from a conservative's perspective, this sounds like a trigger-happy
officer who had no business being in that yard. Truly a tragedy for the owner.
"I want to educate law enforcement so this doesn't happen
again."Or you could have trained your dog not to be so
aggressive. Just sayin'.
Having served a mission in the South where everyone and their dog (pun intended)
has dogs, and sometimes several of them, I don't buy this officer's
justification. While carrying out my mission I was approached and/or chased by
dogs on dozens, if not hundreds of occasions, sometimes by as many as 10-15 dogs
at once. I never once was bitten and never once would have needed to shoot one
even if I had a gun. I think about the worst thing I had to do to a dog to
avoid being bitten was a well-placed kick to the ribs. Oh, and this was
including many dogs like pit bulls, rottweilers, and dobermans.We
learned real quick that the best practice when entering an unknown yard is to
rattle the gate, bang on the mailbox, or make some other noise to alert any
loose dogs to our presence and get them to reveal themselves to avoid any
surprises to either us or them. Seems a ten-year police officer who presumably
also enters yards which might have dogs on a regular basis would know to do
So... what did the dog owner do wrong? What did the dog do wrong? He was
properly secured in a gated back yard. What more precaution could the owner
have taken to prevent this?Dogs are territorial by nature. He
perceived a threat and attempted resolution. Unless the police
officer had probable cause to assume a crime was happening in the backyard (e.g.
he SAW the child back there) he could not have entered the property without 1. a
search warrant, or 2 permission from the owner of someone who lived in the home.
This officer could have avoided a real bad situation by simply following
established law and policies.Yes, the dog owner absolutely should be
compensated (how does one compensate a life?) The police officer broke the law
and deserves to be treated as such (trespassing at the very least). He is not
above the law, but rather must be a paragon of what the law is, in his very act
The oficer went into a fenced backyard where the dog was safely and securely
kept. The dog reacted as a dog would. Then the officer used deadly force where
it was not warranted. Did I miss anything?Why would wnyone expect
the dog to act differently? To me the officer should have expected that the dog
would become aggressive. This was a far more predictable situation than most
police enter. Is it predictable what will happen when you enter a home to serve
a search warrant?Training and respect for private rights is
warranted for these officers. Bulling in like a speeding train an leaving a
wake of destruction is not necessary. Was it likely that the child
could have opened the gate in the first place? If there was a latch at the top
it is doubtful a child could have entered the back yard in the first place...
I think the situation is unfortunate and don't see why the officer was in
the backyard in the first place and to shoot the dog that was acting in defense
of his owner and property is not okay. That being said, the dog is
not a family member. You have no biologic relation to the animal and although
he may be a good friend, it is not the same a the shooting involving another
human.Sad, and I think there should be restitution, but leave the
dog as the family pet.
In sure some officers were checking the home while other officers were searching
the neighborhood. The dog would be unfriendly to an unwelcomed guest in the
yard, but the officer was doing his duty being there. Maybe dogs should be
inside homes while all humans are away? The pet owner is grieving but being
ridiculous. The officer had every right to defend themselves. The pet owner did
not do anything wrong either. It is just one of those things. He didn't
enter the yard with the intent to shoot anything moving. He was looking for a
child who was reported missing. He came upon a rightfully unfriendly dog. Dogs
do protect their turf. The child could enter a fenced yard not only by gate but
a loose section of the fence or a area of ground under a fence that is open.
Pets attract kids. It's not about the mechanics of a gate latch.
Unfortunate collateral damage. This kid was found safe so the dead dog seems
like a big deal. The police have every right to do a thorough search. Whether
the officer acted reasonably is a factual inquiry. But don't pretend that
the well-being of the dog compares in any way to the well-being of the child.
It doesn't, and the kid should get over it and forgive the officer.
We learn this dog at 110 lbs. is 30 to 40 pounds overweight. From adolescence,
a Weimaraner requires extensive exercise in keeping with an energetic hunting
dog breed. Weimaraners are high-energy and often wear out their owners,
requiring appropriate training to learn how to calm them and to help them learn
to control their behavior. Many have behavioral issues as a result of
isolation and inadequate exercise.The Weimaraner is a hunting dog and
therefore has a strong, instinctive prey drive. Will chase and frequently
kill almost any small animal that enters their garden or backyard. In rural
areas, most Weimaraners will not hesitate to chase deer or sheep.This
breed of dog tends to be very stubborn. Being alone can create very
severe separation anxiety in the breed. Weimaraners with severe separation
anxiety can destroy property or injure themselves in trying to escape. A
Weimaraner with separation anxiety is likely to bark, whine, howl, and even dig
until its owner returns home. Further manifestations of this problem can include
panicking.Maybe we should look to the owner for his cruelty to this animal
and the cause of an aggressive behavior.
I like cops and I hate dogs...so what's the problem. If dog owners would
keep their animals under control everything would be better.
Kendall, who wasn't home at the time of the shooting. There goes that
defense of checking before entering the yard.
I know first hand that officers use pepper spray to protect themselves from dogs
when they are aggressive. In fact, they use the pepper spray quite often. So,
why did this officer not use the pepper spray? anybody, human or dog, reacts
almost instantaneously to pepper spray. I understand a child was
apparently missing and they needed to look everywhere. The law allow them under
reasonable doubt to enter private premises. But that doesn't mean the
officer has to leave his/her common sense at the doorstep. If that
was my dog, I would've been very very upset about it! This was a
weimaraner, very known to be friendly. The police department needs to train its
officers on how to deal with dogs and what to do to avoid being attacked without
killing the dog with a shot in the head.
I love all you back seat drivers. Bottom line, none of you were there and none
of you know what happened, except for the dog got shot. Get off of the cops
back until we have more information.Most of you are acting like he
planned this. Next time your three year old goes missing, find the kid
yourselves. Don't call the cops. That way no dogs will get shot.
I love how some posters are critical because the officer did not search the
house first. In these situations officers quickly arrive and are
assigned to search areas. In the case of a three year old, time is of the
essence. They don't have time to ask the other officers did you do this or
did you do that. As far as the argument a three year old would not latch the
gate, have you examined the gate. A gate could be left unlatched when not
closed, entering a child could force the gate closed enough to latch the gate.
Most commenters posting make assumptions not made in the story, but because it
was an officer, a dog was shot, therefore officer must be crucified. I had a
neighbor with a golden lab, the dog chased a ball across the street, I standing
in my driveway was attacked by the dog. The homeowner said he had never been
aggressive he was the mildest dog. I said no he chased a child across his yard
before. Being in the business of risk assessment for an insurance company the
dog was put down three days later.
The officer killed a dog, not a person. To expect the officer to be fired is
totally out of line. A pet can certainly be a friend but it is not a person and
the owner should neither expect the officer to be fired nor to think that
legislation should be passed to make a pet 'a member of the family'.
A pet is an animal, not a person. Get over it.
I am no dog lover, but shooting this dog in its own yard was plain wrong.
A bit of 'forgiveness' may help the young man, a bit of
'humility" on the part of the police might cool the hostility posted
here. Had to put down several dogs because of disease and heart failure and
you don't get over the loss of a treasured pets, but even more especially
in a tragic lost as this is.This isn't the first dog killed by
the police and probably won't be the last, but teaching them how to
deal with dogs that are being protective of property or person should be
required.Some people are terrified of dogs of any size and breed. I have
faced off hostile dogs because I don't have a fear of them, but dogs do
sense fear and may act very differently with someone like that than someone who
Some people aren't dog people. Meaning, I can get along with most any mean
dogs. It's the way you handle them. Cops should have this ability. If not,
new career choice.
@ WaltNicholes - Amen! Pets are great, but they are not humans. Making them a
"member of the family" in the eyes of the law is WAY too far. I feel bad
for this kid, but none of us were there. The only person there was the officer.
What actually happened? We will probably never know. But this officer
shouldn't lose his job over it.@patriot - fining the department is
not the right option. Tax payer dollars pay for the police and money taken from
the police department is taking that protection away from the community.
@HaHa...Yes I firmly agree let's take your advice and "all grow up
here". How about we begin with intellectual and eloquent postings which
offer compassion rather then the archaic caveman approach?
I can't and won't say whether the officer was correct in his actions
because of the reason I stated before (we all lack sufficient information).
However for all those eager to fire him because there are plenty of people who
could replace him I would propose that you take time to try a
"Shoot/Don't Shoot" simulator. Having watched civilians fail at an
overwhelming rate I would venture to say you might be a little more sympathetic
to any officer in his duties. A ten year veteran has great skills for the most
part and replacing him is not as simple as asking the next guy at the door to
pickup a gun and a badge. Police administrations want people who make poor
decisions a lot less than the public does. People suggesting that cops have an
arrogant "shoot anything they want" attitude or that they lack training
simply are ignorant of the vast majority of police officers in Salt Lake City.
firing the officer wont bring his dog back. The police dept should be fined and
compensation given to the dog owner for sure.
No, I don't think a three year old can open a gate. But I think a 20 year
old can grab a three year old and open a gate.I know animal lovers
love their pets like family, but they are NOT family. Still give the years of
love and training and so forth, there should be a civil penalty, unless the
officer, in reasonable hearings, can establish that other alternatives were
simply not workable under the circumstances.I am in favor of
increased training, possibly a formal reprimand, a civil restitution, but I am
NOT in favor of a change to state law giving a pet the same rights as a human.
And I don't think an officer should lose his job over this kind of thing
unless there is a pattern of offense.
@ Wonder Oh boo hoo. I didn't exactly say someone
shouldn't have an emotional attachment, I said they shouldn't have
that kind of emotional attachment. I think there are many in our society,
whether they realize it or not, who place animal life at on the same level of
human life, and I have a very serious problem with that. I had an
emotional attachment to my high school football shoes, but I didn't cry
about it, or threaten my Mom with a lawsuit when she threw them away 30 years
ago. Lets all grow up here!
ALL police officers should have to complete a four year college degree in either
criminal justice, political science or psychology PRIOR to completion of the
police academy. A bachelors degree is required to manage a bank but not for
becoming a police officer? Something is very wrong with this.
So, if he got his wish, would he become a happy person? And is he willing to
live by the same standards for himself?
@ Pete1215:You claim the officer "did not have the option to
just walk away."How do you know that? It said no such thing in the
article. It said the office thought the dog was acting aggressively, but he
never claimed to be attacked by the animal. And if the officer was not attacked,
he certainly could've walked away. That leaves no valid excuse for killing
the dog.Almost every dog acts at least somewhat aggressively when a
stranger walks into their yard. In fact, most owners prefer that. It gives them
added protection against intruders. Some people have dogs explicitly for that
very reason.It would seem the officer was somewhat surprised and
then over-reacted. I'd hate to think what he might've done if it was a
person who had surprised him. As a minimum, and if not actually fired, this
officer needs to at least be put on administrative desk duty with no access to a
firearm. Such people who have a tendency to over-react can be very dangerous
with deadly force available. I completely agree with the dog owner.
I would do the same thing in his situation.
@Hahahah -- You know, you sound like a sociopath. I'm sure you're not
one, but to say that it's pathetic to have an emotional attachment to an
animal is bizarre.
Almost zero sympathy for the dog owner, find it pathetic when adults have that
kind of emotional attachment to animals. That being said, the dog was his
private property, and he sounded like a responsible owner, maintaining the dog
in back yard. If police entered his property uninvited, that is a little high
handed. Don't know all the circumstances, for certain, but I think city my
need to replace his property (dog) at the very least.
The 4th amendment protects citizens from warrantless searches of their property
and possession. The only time a warrant is not needed is when there is a
reasonable cause to search the property. This is where the questions come in:
did the officer search other properties? Was the home remotely close to the
toddler's? Did the homeowner have posted that there was a dog on the
premises so the officer was aware there was a dog? The officer needs
to be fired from the force as I feel that he serves as a threat to the community
with his reckless acts that constitute "excessive force". The next time
he could kill a human that he feels as a "threat". If the force is not
willing to fire him then I am willing to file a petition to see him removed.
This is an outrage and an abuse of power. Police must be taught they can't
do things like this with impunity. I'd be suing as well.
I don't know about whether he should be fired, but unless there are some
facts I'm unaware of, he definitely should be severely reprimanded at the
least. You don't go uninvited onto other people's property and shoot
their dog. In addition, as someone else mentioned, it sounds like the police
need some training on how to deal with animals in a way other than reflexively
shooting them. Better training and a reprimand at the least. I can't
imagine how some of you are saying "It's just a dog." Apparently
you've never owned a pet. I hope!
There was absolutely no justification for this officer to have trespassed into a
fenced, private yard, and even less justification for shooting that dog!Termination of employment should definitely be considered, but at least
some serious discipline, and he should be put on administrative leave (behind a
desk) until the formal investigation is completed.But the dog owner
(the victim of police brutality) met not let this drop. Fight for justice!
When will people learn that police, with the exception of egregious
circumstances, will never be held accountable in the same way private persons
are in the use of firearms.All an officer need say, is 'he/she
feared for their own safety or the safety of others'. That's it. The
local DA marks the case closed.On rare occasions a department may be
found to violate 'civil rights', but that takes years, and years of
abuses before any 'justice' is meted out, and then only in the
meagerest of amounts.Of course when there is some political movement
to institute some sort of oversight with sufficient teeth to make changes, the
police associations begin to wave the banner of civilization's doom, and
scare the voters into accepting ineffective oversight processes.
He shot the dog because he had a gun.....Ask the tens of thousands
of return missionaries who were confronted by dogs often - you can almost always
back away without killing the dog.
The definition of trespassing is: An unlawful intrusion that interferes with
one's person or property.At a minimum this officer was
trespassing. He also broke other laws like animal cruelty. NO officer has the
right to search any private property without the property owners consent or a
search warrant.To say otherwise is not correct. The proper thing to
do is to knock at the door and get permission to look in the back yard. Without
this permission any search of the property is illegal. No matter how good the
intentions are his search put the officer on the opposite side of the law, and
there should be a punishment. IF he walked into the back yard and destroyed his
outside furniture or whatever else is there most people would agree he was
breaking the law. At a minimum this officer trespassed on private
property and destroyed personal property. Both of which are illegal.
Glenn L said, "10,000 people can be wrong. The investigation by competent
people and their judgment should be honored, and the rest of us should depend on
them and trust them."This is so eerily reminiscent of the
"good Germans" who didn't ask questions when their neighbors
disappeared during WWII. They wanted to believe that persons in authority had
their (the people's) best interests at heart. Authoritarian
organizations do not ever become responsive when people ask only polite
questions and do not pursue it when the answer is "Because".
Large dogs with high destructive capacity which become aggressive during a
police search are going to get shot. That's how it is. Whether people ought
to be keeping such dogs at all is a whole other question which insurance
companies are now beginning to address.
To noahread...yeah and police officers should be trained to handle guns too!He
wasn't right,he just thinks he's a sanctioned bad boy who can blow
away whatever he doesn't like!The cop showed no brain power or
restraint,you want people like that running into your yard with guns?
There are so many options to deal with a barking territorial dog that can be
employed before shooting the dog. The officer tried none of them. Did he back
up and exit the yard then call animal control to restrain the dog- no. Did he
employ non lethal means (ie pepper spray) - no. There is no claim that the
animal charged or attempted to bite the officer. Anyone with a little common
sense and understanding of how dogs behave could have almost certainly defused
this situation without killing the dog. The officer in this case made no
attempt to do so by his own report. He just shot the dog. We deserve and need
better police competence. Too often and in too many cases, the first go to
option when confronted with any problem these days is for police to pull the gun
and fire away. I get that the job is tough and often dangerous, but this was no
life threatening situation. If SLPD wants to rebuild community trust and
credibility they need to own up to their mistakes, apologize, and work to better
train their hard-working officers. They should be better than this.
Too many police officers have this streak of arrogance. I have encountered it
myself, and it is offensive and dangerous. The authorities must do more to
restrain their agents.
The officer had no right to shoot this dog in the dog's own yard. It also
should not be so easy for officers to just shoot a dog because they feel a dog
is being "aggressive." Dog's can be aggressive when they feel that
someone is threatening their "pack" and that is a natural instinct.
Threatening does not equate to attacked. How did the officer have any right to
trespass on the property in the first place? Particularly without probable cause
to suggest the missing child was in the yard.
"10,000 people can be wrong. The investigation by competent people and their
judgment should be honored, and the rest of us should depend on them and trust
Censored again. I'll repeat, with slightly more civility, as DN hardly
deserves it any more than SLPD.1) The mother failed to search her house
thoroughly.2) The police failed to search her house thoroughly.3)
The police searched neighbors' yards without searching the child's
house.4) Police shot the dog before searching the child's house.5) The police chief condones such behavior.6) The mayor condones a
police chief who condones such behavior.7) DN condones a mayor who
condones a police chief who condones such behavior.8) The dog owner is
certainly entitled to compensation.9) We live in the dark ages of law
enforcement.10) We live in the dark ages of journalism.--AGF
"I appreciate the service this police officer provided. He was justified in
shooting the dog. Not everyone supports the dog owner. Get over it."As the 'investigation' has not yet been released to the
public, you're assuming the officer performed a "service".
Question 1: Why wasn't the home the FIRST place the police looked?Question 2: Why did the officer believe he needed to be in the neighbor's
fenced in back yard at all?Question 3: Did he knock on the neighbor's
door to get permission to search his back yard and if not, why not?Question 4: If he saw a big, aggressive seeming dog, why didn't he just
step back out of the yard and close the gate? I was a meter reader for a few
years in college and encountered several large, aggressive dogs. Never been in
a back yard with one that I didn't feel like I couldn't simply retreat
@neece, someone who used "very poor judgment" should be fired. Letting
him remain a police officer endangers us all. And if newspaper stories
frequently leave out pertinent information, that's either because the
reporter is trying to make a point (not ethical) or, ahem, because the police
didn't release all of the relevant information...perhaps because it might
make them look bad.Waxing eloquently about how being fired would put
his family in financial ruin, etc, etc. is nonsense. Being fired does not make
you a quadriplegic, unable to ever work again. People are fired every day for
"errors in judgment" which are far less serious than this.There are plenty of good candidates for the position of police officer. We
all deserve better.
Some of the comments here I find disturbing. Explanation 1: it was misuse of
deadly force, in that case the officer should be fired. Explanation 2 it is an
unfortunate circumstance and officer did what was needed, in that case the
officer shouldn't be fired. Either way the department needs to
accept that an officer took the life of a family pet and they need to be made
whole. If I had a car failure and drove through your back yard running over your
pet, I would be responsible to make you whole. The real question may be what is
the value of a life of a "pet", to the owner of the pet it may be
non-monetarily possible (I'm sure a million dollars will help) and to some
the price may be a trip to the pet store or animal shelter. Bigger
story here is police conduct. The property owner has rights which from reading
the article were never surrendered. Question if a three year comes missing, do
all rights get abandoned. If so what other rights can be abandoned and for what
reason. I believe in "The Child First and Always". But I find this
Neece,Perhaps the officer and his boss should admit the mistake and
apologize...and provide some compensation to the dog's owner. Shooting the
dog was unprofessional and very poor judgment. Defending the officer's
actions is arrogant and unfeeling. A heartfelt apology for poor judgment could
go a long way toward recovering dignity and respect for this officer and the
Seriously people? I love my animals and would be very upset if this happened.
However it is a dog! Yes the officer used very poor judgement. Yes he should
compensate the owner, Yes he should be disciplined but fired? Isn't that a
little overkill? You are willing to take every other good that officer does for
you, put his life on the line for you and you will take that all away for an
error in judgement? You are willing to put his family in financial ruin over a
dog? So lets look at all you people's background and tell me there has
never been a really bad decision you have made in your lives? should it cost you
everything? No! of course not!! I am truly sorry for the dog's owner. But I
want you to remember who is going in your backyard after that burglar, or who
will protect your house if it is being robbed, your child if he/she goes
Southern Baptist, tell us about the last time you heard of any dog, much less a
weimeraner, killing a grown man. That's just silly. The officer's life
was not in danger. In the worst case scenario, he would have been bitten...more
likely he would have engaged the dog in a friendly game of "fetch."
Shooting the dog was an "over the top" response. What if the man had
been a civilian neighbor, legally carrying a gun, and had shot the dog while
helping search for the child. He would have no badge to protect him and would be
in some justifiable trouble. To quote a friend of mine, "The dog
should not have been shot...PERIOD!!!)
I agree with the owner. The cop should be fired. Someone should also suffer
monetary damages be it the cop or the city or both.
I came home from work and found my German Shepard which barked a lot lying on my
front porch and as he saw me, his tail began to wag. He was thrilled to see me
and looked like he was saying, "thank goodness, you are here." Then I
noticed blood right behind his front left leg. Someone had shot him. Not even
the police could do anything and he died.After reading the different
comments, and since I didn't have anyone to blame and no one to go after, I
got over it a lot quicker than the family who lost their dog. I don't
carry a grudge but feel sorry for the individual who did it since I am sure it
has remained with him or her all these years. I am sure the officer feels bad
and there would be no good come out of harming him and his family now and then
having to live with it.
Utah Dem makes an excellent point. It's possible that the three year old
could have wandered into that yard, and even unlatched the gate. But to have
closed and relatched it--no, no kid out wandering is going to do that.
10,000 people can be wrong. The investigation by competent people and their
judgment should be honored, and the rest of us should depend on them and trust
And what happens when you kill a police dog?You can justify this all
you want, but this clown was out of line and made a very poor decision.
Justify idiocy and you sound...dumb.
There is not enough facts about what actually happened here for any of us to
judge. Newspaper reports are notoriously bad for not including important
information because of a lack of space. It's tragic the owner lost his
dog. On the other hand the news often doesn't even report injuries that
officers suffer from pets, hazardous conditions and other causes they encounter
that are the property owners responsibility. Rather than us trying this in the
comments section I suggest the home owner who has legal representation continue
his legal options. It is a system that works for the most part in this country.
I’m not sure whether the officer should be fired or not. That said, a SLC
police officer pulled a gun on our dog, a 15 lb miniature schnauzer, in our yard
within a foot or two of my father. I definitely thing something should be done
to properly train police officers on how to handle pets.
I'm pretty sure we can't expect a dog to know the difference between a
police officer and any other stranger. This is a sickening abuse of power.
Not only should this officer be fired, he should never be permitted to be a
police officer again. He's dangerous.
Let's think about this one-dogs are territorial animals. If a stranger
enters the property, the dog will act to protect his territory! The officer
should have backed off-but police officers nowadays think they have the right to
pull their gun and shoot anything or anyone that acts aggressive. CS Mace, which
police carry, and tasers are effective non-lethal control methods. The owner of
the dog has every right to ask what he has.
Fire the cop but first take away his gun!
Note; The child was found IN HIS HOME. So explain to me why the home
wasn't the first place the police searched. And basic animal behavior is
to be protective of their space. This owner had done everything correct, his
beloved animal was in his yard, not running loose. The officer should have
backed out of the yard and attempted to locate the owner or someone who knew the
dog to restrain it if he really wanted to search the yard. I have
had my child go missing, and I would want everything done to find my child but I
wouldn't want officers barging into my neighbors yards and killing their
beloved pets. We should help by teaching officers how to handle animals that
are behaving in territorial ways. I doubt this dog was so aggressive that the
officer couldn't back away without shooting twice.
Shooting the dog in it's own back yard wasn't unjustified. He could
have looked into the yard without necessarily even having to enter. As for
pepper spray taking time to work, I seriously doubt it. That stuff produces an
instantaneous reaction. Shooting with a tranquilizer dart would take time to
work, but NOT pepper spray. This officer was just in a very questionable frame
of mind. You should have a bit more control and presence of mind to be running
around with a gun and permission to use it. Had the child been in the dog's
jaws then shooting it would have been justified but not what happened in this
instance. Chances of that three year old being in there in company of that
aggressive dog were nil. Common sense should have immediately indicated that -
an aggressive dog in an enclosed yard would be well enclosed by the owners.
Entry to the yard would be essentially impossible for a three year old child,
and if somehow it got in there, you'd know from the screams and uproar with
the dog. Wrong mentality on the part of the officer, in my opinion.
Cop was RIGHT!a 110 lb dog can kill very quickly.
@ Troy06"The three year old would have been just fine in that
back yard."Just how do you know that?
I understand the love for a dog, I lost a lot of good friends through the years.
They aren't called mans best friend for nothing. It's a heart ache
when a shared love like that is gone and it takes years, to stop crying. I like
to think that their spirit stays with me they will always be in my heart and in
my mind. Justis keeps things Righteous.
The officer had a duty to perform. The dog just did what came natural. The
officer was in a bad situation but did not have the option to just walk away.
This is just a case of bad luck. No one should be fired.
I don't think police officers get any joy out of killing animals. I
don't think they get any joy out of pulling out their guns at any time.
This guy is not a rookie. He is a seasoned officer. He knows whenever he pulls
the trigger there is going to be a lot of analysing and questioning why he used
deadly force. He must have had a pretty good reason to take this sort of
action. It is unfortunate. It is sad. I'm sure the officer was sad as he
left that day. I believe he will be exonerated and his actions will be found
warranted. Nevertheless, I am sad for the dog and the dog owner.
I agree with this guy. Officer needs to be fired . You can not shoot
someone's pet in his fenced back yard in an unrelated search. This is
unacceptable behavior. I have a Golden Retriever and he barks when someone he
does not know comes to our yard . That is what most dogs do. And my Dog Macks is
the sweetest dog .This officer needs to go and this guy will get a huge
settlement . This was no random accident . This was a trigger happy
officer that probably grabs for his fire arm every chance he gets. This
incident may have saved a human life.
The police officer should be fired. If you go into someone's yard the dog
who lives there is going to act that way. The police officer was on someone
else's property who was not a criminal. The police in our country are
totally out of hand....and arrogant.
You people who are trying to justify this shooting make me sick.Twardy- I have no idea what would make somebody think pepper spray "takes
a little time to work." The reaction is involuntary and instantaneous even
for a human; a dog is much more sensitive. Tracy-, yes, not everyone
supports the dog owner; some people are fans of over-the-top violence and
cruelty. There was zero justification for shooting the dog.Rockarolla- the officer wouldn't have been applauded or "called a
hero" for entering a home with no warrant, no reason, and no warning, and
then shooting its inhabitants when they react to their home being invaded!
Killing someone's best friend for no reason is way too big a deal for you
or the PD to simply dismiss.
The standard of "feeling threatened" is too low to be used as an excuse
for lethal force; it was too low for George Zimmerman, it is too low when used
as an excuse for killing feral cats, it was too low when a retired cop killed a
man in cold blood for texting. No one can tell you how you feel and you can
choose to feel anything. This wouldn't have been a valid excuse for
killing a Bull Terrier in cold blood and it was no excuse for killing a
Weimaraner in cold blood. For the record, if you abuse an animal you are 70%
more likely to abuse a woman or child. If lethal force is the only tool you
have in dealing with a barking dog you should not be wearing the badge of any
law enforcement agency and this individual should never be allowed in public
safety again; this action is a disgrace to those who honorably and
professionally enforce the law and protect public safety.
Let me get this straight: a police officer goes onto someone's private
property, sees a dog there (in his yard), the dog "acts aggressively",
the cop shoots the dog (on private property) and people are ok with that?
It's funny when we think things like "rights" are important and
when they're not.I'm not someone that would even consider
myself a big animal person but what a joke. I understand that police have a job
to do, and it's a hard one but they shouldn't have the authority to
walk around killing things on private property. Once in the backyard, you see
there is no child, get out, don't pull out your gun and shoot the poor dog.
I am against lawsuits and things like that but sometimes it's
the only way to get change.
So a few of you believe the officer was justified, interesting. So help the
rest of us understand, if we followed this officer's thinking, a three year
old could unlatch a gate, enter a backyard, re-latch the gate and hang out in
this yard - is that what we are to believe? Sorry, I'm just not believing
that thinking no matter what type of gate.
Yes, we are talking about a dog. A dog that was in a fenced yard and a dog that
was not known to be aggressive. Also a dog from a breed that is not known to be
aggressive. The dog's owner has every right to be upset and to seek for
answers.Most of my neighbors that have a fenced yard have a dog that
would bark at an intruder. I would expect a 10 year veteran to be better
prepared to find a dog behind a gate to a fenced yard.
We're talking about a dog, right? If this had been a man that had attacked
this officer and was killed we would probably be calling that officer a hero.
This pet owner needs to back off. He's making way too big of a deal over
Tawdry The three year old would have been just fine in that back yard.
I appreciate the service this police officer provided. He was justified in
shooting the dog. Not everyone supports the dog owner. Get over it.
I would be furious! I had a big male dog in my backyard about 6 years ago. He
jumped my fence to find me female lab that was in heat. When my dog started
barking I went out to see what was. When I saw the large male dog in my back
yard I was shocked. He had no ID tags, so I called the police to impound the
dog. While waiting for the officers I played with the big male and found him to
be very friendly. Then the officer showed up and the dog went crazy! We
couldn't catch him. He was likely 120+ lbs. So the officer started to pull
out his gun stating this was a dangerous dog that needed to be put down.
If I were attacked by a dog I would shoot it too. Pepper spray takes a little
time to work. Sad for both sides. I understand the frustration that the dog was
in his yard. This sucks. But no matter how much we love our animals, human life
is more important. Glad the 3 year old didn't wonder into that yard.
It is ridiculous to kill the dog. Pepper spray would have worked just fine.
I'm sure the officer felt like a big man though