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Media Day notes: BYU players respond to 'non Power 5' criticism (+video)

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  • SportsFan Orem, UT
    June 27, 2014 8:01 a.m.

    SoonerUte

    "TCU would love to see BYU join the Big 12, so that the Horned Frogs wouldn't be the conference doormat anymore."

    Based on what recent evidence?

    2013
    BYU 40 Texas 21
    Texas 30 TCU 7

  • SportsFan Orem, UT
    June 27, 2014 7:03 a.m.

    upac

    "I'm glad my beloved Utes don't talk much, if ever. But, they know how to win the big games."

    2011 - with a gift-wrapped PAC South there for the taking, the Utes are dominated at home by a 10-loss Colorado team that hadn't won a road game in four years.

    2012 - the Utes fail to qualify for a bowl game when they're unable to win a single road game against a PAC team with a winning record, as usual.

    2013 - with their bowl eligibility hanging by a thread, the Utes can't get past lowly WSU(6-7), a team that lost to Colorado State in their first bowl in years

    Where's you evidence that the Utes know how to win big games?

    4-5, 3-6, 2-7

    LOL!

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    June 26, 2014 12:22 p.m.

    SoonerUte:
    And what's BYUs record against Texas and Oklahoma again? Oh yeah, 5-1. Yep that sounds like a sure fire doormat indeed. Just because Utah and TCU have stunk it up doesn't mean everyone would...the two big dogs of the Big 12 can vouch for that!

  • SoonerUte Salt Lake City, UT
    June 25, 2014 2:33 p.m.

    TCU would love to see BYU join the Big 12, so that the Horned Frogs wouldn't be the conference doormat anymore.

  • CougarSunDevil Phoenix, AZ
    June 25, 2014 8:17 a.m.

    Tenn12

    "It's interesting to see some say BYU isn't power 5 worthy. What makes a school or team power 5 worthy? I would like to see those people list what it is that makes a team or school a power 5."

    Here's your list.
    1. Have two lucky (outlying) football seasons.
    2. Not be religiously affiliated.
    3. Have a research school.
    4. Be a doormat to the new conference.
    5. Be willing to have fans cheer for the conference over the school for decades.

    At least this is what the PAC schools told Utah to justify not getting Texas and Oklahoma and they had to settle for Utah because they already invited Colorado.

  • Rockarolla West Jordan, UT
    June 24, 2014 10:23 p.m.

    The Utes are in a Power Conference…with no power to show for it. I'll be surprised if the Utes win 5 Football games this year. The Utes have proven one thing though…they can beat BYU and no one else. Thank goodness Colorado is always on the schedule or it would look even worse!

  • 81Ute Central, UT
    June 24, 2014 5:07 p.m.

    BYU with 10 wins over mediocre teams will not get them ranked anymore due to SOS becoming a much greater force. SOS will trickle down to the individual polls.

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    June 24, 2014 4:06 p.m.

    "BYU will still play the likes of Texas, Virginia and UCLA this year"

    No they won't. Cal is NOT UCLA.

  • Tomahawk Red North Salt Lake, UT
    June 24, 2014 3:14 p.m.

    Steven S Jarvis
    Orem, UT

    With no Utah-BYU game to play for two years, Utah will no longer be able to use the did we beat BYU measuring stick for success.

    ---------

    Beating up on a bad mid major is absolutely no measure of success by any stretch of the imagination for any team imaginable in any universe.

    Beating BYU is what it is... a low-level auto-win that has entirely lost its excitement because BYU can't compete with Utah anymore.

    Yawn, next.

  • Tomahawk Red North Salt Lake, UT
    June 24, 2014 3:11 p.m.

    never break .500
    Los Angeles, CA

    They have had two good seasons in program history, a tiny Juco stadium, a never ending jealousy of BYU and even hired most their coaching staff from, you know who? Yep, the Cougs.

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    Yep, you sure are right. Pac 12 sucks. We wanna be an independent mid major that no power conference respects and has exactly zero access to the playoff... with a coach who has football fifth on his list of priorities... NCAA sanctions coming... is publicly BEGGING to be let inside the party... and an absolutely dreadful slate of home games every single season.

    Where can I sign up for some of that?

    Your entire rant is absolutely dripping with hate-fueled jealousy.

    LOL!

  • Tenn12 Orem, UT
    June 24, 2014 2:10 p.m.

    It's interesting to see some say BYU isn't power 5 worthy. What makes a school or team power 5 worthy? I would like to see those people list what it is that makes a team or school a power 5.

  • Steven S Jarvis Orem, UT
    June 24, 2014 1:59 p.m.

    With no Utah-BYU game to play for two years, Utah will no longer be able to use the did we beat BYU measuring stick for success. It was annoying to have that game on the schedule only for the Cougars to cough up a loss while ruling the stats. Yes Utah won. They wanted those games more than they seemed to want wins against teams in the PAC12. It will be quite interesting to see how the two teams fare these next two years.

    As for BYU, I fully expect two years being ranked at seasons end and ten plus wins because of the maturity/development of the O-Line, QB and RB. I would LOVE to see both Williams and Hill pull all-america honors as well.

    As for Utah, they will have an entirely new coaching staff, still be adjusting to PAC12 competition and likely selling more bumper stickers for the conference than for the team.

  • utesgoingdownthehill Salt Lake City , UT
    June 24, 2014 1:33 p.m.

    @u-PAC aka zoobed buster
    Utes don't talk much, too bad same can't be said about the utah fans. They can never stop talking about BYU.

  • utesgoingdownthehill Salt Lake City , UT
    June 24, 2014 10:06 a.m.

    Simple spectator

    First I agree that head to head Utah has been better team against BYU for last 4 games.But no competition? if I remember correctly 3 out of 4 games were decided on one touch down or final play of the game. Few things here and there and it could have been anyones win.
    For whatever reason, Utah is not playing BYU and going way from BYU. Now I wish Utah fan will go away from BYU too. Never seen any fan following where irrelevent opponent comes before there own team.
    For BYU fans - BYU comes first and then everyone else.
    For Utah fans - BYU comes first , then PAC 12, then little bit of Utah and everyone else.

  • Simpe Spectator St.George, UT
    June 24, 2014 9:57 a.m.

    never break .500

    You have been beat by Utah 4 years In a row.....stop rambling about how Utah is jealous. Utah showed that they could outplay byu 4 years Ina row, it was no longer a competition so they stop scheduling them. 4-0....enough said

  • Ghost Writer GILBERT, AZ
    June 23, 2014 10:26 p.m.

    This ridiculous "You're not Power 5 worthy" talk should indeed provide some motivation for the Cougars. "Pride goeth before the fall." Go Cougars.

  • never break .500 Los Angeles, CA
    June 23, 2014 10:10 p.m.

    Again with desperate Ute fans reading all they can about big brother in Provo, with the big stadium, our own DirecTV channel, National Championship, Heisman, winning seasons, bowl games…things the unworthy Utes can only dream about. As we have been able to see with the Utes, they can upend a BYU or a Stanford, but then they lose almost all the rest of their conference games, never get ranked, viewed as a doormat, or a spoiler team but never viewed as a top flight team. They have had two good seasons in program history, a tiny Juco stadium, a never ending jealousy of BYU and even hired most their coaching staff from, you know who? Yep, the Cougs. So spend your cash wisely guys, the wins are rare, the bowl games non-existent, the winning seasons unlikely, but you have that SOS trophy to point to.."other teams we play are good, so maybe that means we are too??"

  • Bastiatarian TUCSON, AZ
    June 23, 2014 9:56 p.m.

    >Utah added enough value to the PAC 12 to invite Utah.

    No, conference officials possibly THOUGHT that Utah would add enough value. Utah hasn't, by any means, but maybe conference officials were hoping that maybe sometime in the future, loooong into the future, Utah would add some value.

    For the rest of us who have been fans of the conference for decades, Utah certainly hasn't made the conference more prestigious or interesting. Maybe Utah's athletic program will develop into a real draw at the ticket office or for broadcasts, but currently there's no sign of that happening any time in the near future. Currently, Utah is the conference game on the schedule that we're fine with missing if something more interesting comes up, such as reruns of Budget Committee meetings on C-SPAN, or maybe golf on the radio.

  • Michael Romney Salt Lake, UT
    June 23, 2014 8:23 p.m.

    I don't blame byu players for their response. I wouldn't expect them to say "ya we are a mid major and the big boys shouldn't treat us like they do other power conference teams"

    But the truth is that the power 5 should treat byu like they treat all other mid majors. And that is like a mid major. If byu was worthy of being treated differently a power conference would invite them. But byu isn't worthy. As no conference wants them. Utah added enough value to the PAC 12 to invite Utah. The big 12 had the same opportunity with byu. And unlike Utah, byu did not add enough value

    Facts. Cheers brothers!