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Published: Monday, June 23 2014 9:14 p.m. MDT

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J.D.
Aurora, CO

There are a flood of members whose shelves have finally broken. Compassion is the only method of reaching out that will work.

djofraleigh
raleigh, NC

What a find statement. No argument can be made against this request to be respectful to one another. Would we have it any other way?

Globetrecker
Arlington, va

I saw this comment on one article and found it both insightful and interesting:

“I am surprised to see so many people say that Kate Kelly hasn’t done anything to lead people away from the church, and then admit that they themselves are considering leaving the Church. This is all a result of her actions, and by saying that you are leaving, you are showing how correct the Church has been on their stance. I’m sorry to see so many of my brothers and sisters hurting for disobedience and hope they take the opportunity to see why having an OW profile is sowing the seeds of apostasy and they humble themselves and come back.”

Having read this, I do wonder what the future holds for the current supporters of this group, now that the leader and founder has been excommunicated.Having an OW profile isn’t worth losing ones membership or good standing over. I am hopeful there are some who seek to be humble and turn from these ways but I see so much anger and hard heartedness that I wonder what the future holds for them and their membership.

george of the jungle
goshen, UT

Compassion and Gratitude makes the world go round. Without gratitude it's kinda one sided. I figure that what forgiveness is for. If it's only for my self, to let go of resentment.

southmtnman
Provo, UT

She is the Young Women's President, so only the Young Women need to listen to her?

Why do the Young Women need special counsel on being compassionate? Are they having a problem in that area?

WRK
Riverton, UT

It is so wonderful to see the workings of the still small voice as is demonstrated here.

It makes me shudder to see the wailing and nashing of teeth shown elsewhere.

Thank you Sister Oscarson for your leadership in the Church.

chrisalmond
Olympia, WA

I don't believe Kate Kelly has been leading people out of the Church. For many, having a voice like hers, one they could relate to, helped them stay. It is the decision to excommunicate her which is causing many to leave, NOT Kate's choices.

WRK
Riverton, UT

@chrisalmond
Having been on both the begining and end of church disiplinary boards, the decision made in those councils are made after prayer and in all cases I was involved also fasting, that decision comes from God: therefore, it indeed was Kate's choice to not follow God's council given to her from a prohet of God.

ulvegaard
Medical Lake, Washington

Interesting how our church leaders remind us to be compassionate and for some it turns into an argument about Ms. Kelly. Compassion should always be part of our practicing vocabulary regardless of who takes a turn at reminding us to do so.

As for Ms. Kelly, actions regarding her membership are and were between her and her bishop / stake president alone. Any information broadcast to the public will be, naturally, slanted to put Ms. Kelly in a better light. I am confident that correct procedures, motives and methods have been involved here as in all other cases; even the ones that don't make the national press. Let's leave it at that.

mancan
HC, UT

@southmtnman:
I am a man and I think her words apply to me just as well. She is one of the Lord's anointed, so when she or the other auxiliary presidency members speak to everyone, it is just as important to listen to them as it is to listen to an apostle. I suspect she did this as an assignment from the 1st Presidency, so listen up everyone.

Mack2828
Ft Thomas, KY

Very good reminder from Sister Oscarson. The timing is interesting. If you spend any time on Feminist Mormon Housewives you will see that Kate Kelly and her followers like Sister Oscarson a lot. Not understanding that she doesn't hold priesthood keys of presidency, they mistakenly refer to her as "President Oscarson". But that is an easy mistake for any of us to make. Hopefully she can help heal their pain.

InspectorC
Wasatch Front, UT

Hmmmmmm.....

Just curious why they used the YWGP to record this message??

It would just seem more natural and "appropriate" to have the RSGP give such a message, wouldn't it?

Any ideas why??

xert
Santa Monica, CA

She seems compassionate, caring and kind. And yet, so many of the posts involving Kate's excommunication seem finger pointing, gleeful, angry and "told ya so." Where's the disconnect, I wonder?

RedWings
CLEARFIELD, UT

I think the message is more important than the messenger. Maybe Sister Ocsarson was in town and was available to record the message? Church leaders ae very busy and travel frequently.

I for one do not question why Elder Oaks spoke on the Priesthood at the last conference. His message is what was important - and enlightening - for me...

OHBU
Columbus, OH

"Having read this, I do wonder what the future holds for the current supporters of this group, now that the leader and founder has been excommunicated.Having an OW profile isn’t worth losing ones membership or good standing over."

That's exactly how many women seem to be taking the news of her excommunication: it's not about her and her bishop, it's a message from the church--a threat--get in line or get kicked out.

TheProudDuck
Newport Beach, CA

"I am surprised to see so many people say that Kate Kelly hasn’t done anything to lead people away from the church, and then admit that they themselves are considering leaving the Church. This is all a result of her actions, and by saying that you are leaving, you are showing how correct the Church has been on their stance."

Faulty logic. If I left the sixteenth-century Catholic Church because I was appalled that they'd just burned some poor heretic to cinders, would it be proper for the Catholic leadership to say my leaving is a result of the heretic's actions, and it just shows how correct the decision to do the auto-da-fe really was?

cval
Hyde Park, UT

In the Bible (Acts 26:14) we are warned about "kicking against the pricks."

Sound familiar? That is exactly what Saul was doing in the New Testament, and exactly what Kate Kelly is doing. The answers are there if we are paying attention.

TheProudDuck
Newport Beach, CA

Cval, the Apostle Paul withstood his ecclesiastical superior Peter "to the face, for he was to be blamed." Peter, the Prophet, was wrong, and Paul called him on it. And then went and wrote about it in a public document, and kept writing about it. Dang near half the New Testament is devoted to their public quarrel about whether Gentile converts had to get...an operation belowdecks that many of them understandably were reluctant to undertake.

Laura Bilington
Maple Valley, WA

Globetrecker writes, "I am surprised to see so many people say that Kate Kelly hasn’t done anything to lead people away from the church, and then admit that they themselves are considering leaving the Church. This is all a result of her actions, and by saying that you are leaving, you are showing how correct the Church has been on their stance. "

So...if somebody looks at the way the Church handled Kelly's case--and they decide to leave the Church--it proves that the church has been correct.

And if that same person looks at the way they handled it---and they decide to stay in the Church---it proves that the church has been correct.

I'm going to guess that you see the events following Mr. Marchant's excommunication "proved" that the Church was right on that, too.

mothernut
Spring, TX

Why do you think this message is about Kate Kelly? There are a lot more men/women out there who this could have a greater impact on. I see youth and adults every day struggle with this. Let's get over KK, she has made her bed, and now she is dragging it through the public eye. I support YWGP Oscarson and her message and hope that it will help those who need it.

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