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Published: Monday, June 23 2014 11:55 a.m. MDT

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Brave Sir Robin
San Diego, CA

Can't read the article (broken link), but this headline is a joke. BYU is "ready" to join a P5 conference? That makes it sound like BYU has P5 conference breaking down their door to join but they're holding out. The reality is BYU's not in a P5 conference because they're not getting offered to join. Exclusion is not BYU's choice, it's the conferences' choice.

The BYU lapdog media types are hilarious.

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

"Sorry, Mountain West. It doesn't sound like BYU is considering going back anytime soon."

As much as aggie fans and other WAC fans want to pretend byu wouldn't be the #1 program in the MWC, the truth is they would. BYU would be the most prize of that conference. BYU would bring more money to that conference than any other team, and likely more than several other teams combined.

But the funny thing is even knowing those facts, the WAC fans still don't want byu to join.

LOL. They're both(byu and the WAC) too easy to make fun of.

Hoosier87
American Fork, UT

I like independence - but I would love to see the Cougars in the Big12.

I want to see all sports there too - basketball would be as fun as football - especially with what Coach Rose is bringing in.

And before all our favorite Ute fans start commenting about nonsense - please answer me this: why would BYU not be as worthy a member of any of the power conferences as anyone else is - especially if the Utes are worthy of the PAC?

Teams will continue to play BYU from the ACC/SEC because of the exposure it brings their teams - playing on ESPN every week is a beautiful thing, regardless of who you are!

BYU and Jazz Fan
Provo, UT

It never ceases to amaze me that the first comments on a BYU article are from Utah fans just chomping at the bit to get any dagger in they can. That being said I'm glad BYU is finally realizing the importance of being in a P5 conference as that is the future of where college football is going.
I'm not panicking by any means but hope they can get in within the next few years. I also hope they continue to schedule teams from the P5 because we need to actually show that we belong and not rely on tradition.
I think the future of BYU football is bright, despite what any supposed "Ute Fans" may say. I'm sure it'll just eat them alive should the invitation eventually come from the PAC 12. I honestly don't care what P5 conference it is as long as we're in one.
The future of BYU football is bright just need to weather the storm. And for those of you worrying about the NCAA violations, I'm sure it'll be less drastic than the 99 violations the U reported a while ago.

CougarSunDevil
Phoenix, AZ

I love ute fans who say making fun of BYU and the Mountain West (mocked by ute fans as the WAC). Where did Utah come from?

Besides, you really think Utah has anything to brag about? Utah is the laughing stock of the PAC-12. I love talking with all my ASU friends about the football season. No one mentions Utah as anything anyone is looking forward to watch and is often referred to as "the unofficial bye week".

Utah drains the Power from the Power 5. Utah is on par with the Kansas and Iowa State's of the College Football World.

ekute
Layton, UT

CougarSunDevil,
Is that why your entire comment is about Utah and the PAC 12, on the day when the spotlight is supposed to by on byu? lol.

utesgoingdownthehill
Salt Lake City , UT

Ekute complaining about cougarsundevil talking about Utah in BYU post. I love Utah fans, they are the BEST!

AFCoug
Colorado Springs, CO

The biggest question for BYU joining the Big 12 is not Sunday play like so many have discussed but rather is the BYU brand worth the $20M eachschool in the Big 12 is getting. If so that would allow them to renegotiate with ESPN and Fox for the additional revenue to bring BYU into the fold. If BYU is only worth $5M then why would they bring in the extra school.

I do believe BYU is undervalued in their current contract given their TV ratings. They certainly draw much more than the low tiered teams of any Big 5 conferance, to include the vaunted Utes. Their basketball program is solida and a quality product as well. I'm not sure if they are a $20M program but I'm also pretty confident saying Utah is not a $20M program either.

In the end I believe the Big 12 will be pressured to add a championship game and possible expand to 14-16 teams. The PAC-12 will also likely face similiar pressure in the future and we will end up with the Big 5 conferances having 14-16 teams a piece. This should get BYU in the door at some point as well as a few other deserving programs.

WhoRtheUtes???
Elko, NV

The poor ute fans have to post here. As there is no where else really for them to post. As we and they know. The media has all but forgotten about the ute football program. The national media does not discuss them, the PAC hardly gives them a footnote and the local media coverage on the utes is very low. Even the Aggies get more press than they do. So what is a poor ute fan who wants to chat suppose to do?

Henry Drummond
San Jose, CA

@AFCoug

I like your analysis. If the P5 decides to expand to 16 teams each, I would think BYU would be in the mix. Still BYU will have to give something up and that most likely would be their right to televise their own home games on BYUtv on a delayed basis. With 70% of the LDS community living outside of Utah, I can understand the reluctance to give that up. Meanwhile with the mess Texas create with the Longhorn Network I understand the other side too. It may take some real creativity to find a middle ground on that one.

CougarSunDevil
Phoenix, AZ

ekute

"Is that why your entire comment is about Utah and the PAC 12, on the day when the spotlight is supposed to by on byu?"

Only because the BYU haters beat everyone to the article, as usual. If the BYU haters weren't on here so fast and so frequent, I wouldn't post a reminder about how unimpressive Utah is to help my ute friends not to bash BYU. Besides, your "lol." comment put the spotlight on the Utah football program. BYU has actually enjoyed winning seasons. That's not funny ha ha, that's just cool. Two straight bowless seasons...now that's funny.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

"Sorry, Mountain West. It doesn't sound like BYU is considering going back anytime soon." -- Lafe Peavler

Well that's just as well, seeing as how I don't think the MWC was interested in expanding beyond 12-teams anyway. And even if they were, there seems to be too many MWC teams who wouldn't approve of their petition to join anyway. Remember, the MWC requires a 75% approval rate, and with schools like SDSU, Wyo, CSU, and UNM as most likely "nay" votes, the only other way for the cougars to get in would be if the MWC first expanded to 16 teams, THEN invite them, and hope that schools like Hawai'i and/or UNLV don't block them also. But then the MWC would balloon to 17-18 teams. I think that's too big.

SEC Rules
Seminole, FL

At Chris B.

What’s really funny is to hear you guys talk about your PAC12 glory and Rose Bowl dreams. Keep dreaming. The only dream come true that you guys will have is a “White Christmas”.

“Please have snow, and some mistletoe, and my PAC 12 membership under the tree…”

Steven S Jarvis
Orem, UT

@CougarSunDevil

It does not seem to matter WHEN the articles are posted. Chris B. with one of his dozen monkiers almost always dominates the first four to six posts on everything BYU related. The guy eats, drinks and breathes BYU football like no other.

It also hurts that the Utes rarely have articles written about their program. I enjoy the ones that do get posted, but that happens so infrequently. Utah needs to try to build a public relations department and do something to get noticed now that they have joined the PAC. I am on vacation in Cali and I still have yet to see a PAC12 sticker.

Uteology
East Salt Lake City, Utah

"Sorry, Mountain West. It doesn't sound like BYU is considering going back anytime soon."
-- Lafe Peavler

BYU plays FOUR MWC teams in 2014 and FIVE in 2015, 4 of which are in November.

Cougar Nation might not want to mock the MWC, without them who else would BYU use to fill their schedule, Big Sky teams?

Sorry, Cougar Nation. I doesn't sound like BYU is going to the Big 12 anytime soon.

Uteology
East Salt Lake City, Utah

@CougarSunDevil

Besides, you really think Utah has anything to brag about? Utah is the laughing stock of the PAC-12. I love talking with all my ASU friends about the football season. No one mentions Utah as anything anyone is looking forward to watch and is often referred to as "the unofficial bye week".

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BYU fans disagree. So do fans of PAC-12 Champion Stanford.

Darren Rowe
Heber City, UT

What have I been saying ever since the investigation into improper benefits began? I have said the violations would be pretty minor, because BYU as a collective organization does things the right way, even though some individuals like Duane Busby may break those rules. I predicted that BYU would catch these violations early and self-report before anything got out of hand.

And what did all the ute fans say? "Your looking through blue-goggles, you have no evidence for this, BYU's athletic program is going to be shut down forever from these violations, etc."

That was hilarious. Maybe the ute fans should check their red goggles before they tell me to clean my blue goggles. BYU fans once again proved to be more objective while ute fans proved to be more biased.

Mark it down, when the NCAA responds to BYU, they will hand down very few, if any, punishments.

Uteology
East Salt Lake City, Utah

'The Cougars are happy with independence, but are ready to join a Power 5 conference.

"In the early years, I think BYU felt that they had outgrown the conference and their people were talking about how BYU would go to the Big 12 or the Pac-10." -- Ron McBride

Apparently nothing has changed, their still talking.

AZBlue
Gilbert, AZ

People still talk about the Big 5 expanding to 16 teams each. If anything, the recent news coming from Big 5 conferences would suggest that they are looking for ways to cutoff further additions to the Big 5 to eliminate diluting the money pot for the current members. There are currently 62 members of the Big 5, plus Notre Dame. I am wondering whether there might be a new Big 5 division of college football with only the current 63 members (with perhaps one addition to make it 64). Thus any realignment might only be to balance out the existing members as the Big 5 see fit -- say 4 conferences of 16 teams each, or 2 of 12 each and 2 of 14 each.

Who would be that coveted 1 additional team to bring it all to 64?

Go Big Blue!!!
Bountiful, UT

The Big 12 seems pretty happy to remain at 10 and avoid a championship game. While a championship game brings in a great amount of revenue, a championship often harms the conference when the underdog wins. Don't hold your breath for them to add two teams any time soon.

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