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Published: Saturday, June 21 2014 8:30 p.m. MDT

Updated: Monday, June 23 2014 8:46 a.m. MDT

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Henry Drummond
San Jose, CA

This is a bit of a jolt. I thought this was purely a civil matter, not a criminal matter. I can see where their would be scrutiny over anti-trust laws, but fraud? Yikes.

Flashback
Kearns, UT

I guess that the disgruntled former owners of the Trib just can't let it go. There doesn't appear to be anything wrong with the new agreement. If it leads to the demise of the Trib, so what? If they can't compete in the market place, then that is just the way things go. Suing isn't going to change that.

DN Subscriber
Cottonwood Heights, UT

The Tribune's problems stem from their "journalistic" skills, and editorial bias, not from the JOA. When you print rabid garbage that appeals to a steadily decreasing number of people willing to actually pay for such stuff, you lose money. A lot of money.

The problem is not unique to the Tribune, but is epidemic in most of the "dead tree media."

The Deseret News, however, has pursued innovative ways to cut costs, make connections across different types of media (print, TV, radio, and on-line) and in the print world serves not just the traditional Utah subscriber base, but expanded to a national market.

While the classified ads in print media are almost extinct, and basically ignored by most people, the Deseret News has a major play in on line classifieds in its KSL.com operation.

Well done, Deseret News, innovating and competing successfully. And, any print media who think their traditional hostility to the majority of the local population is the key to success will find the error of their ways.

Buggy whip makers went out of business, and the Tribune is headed the same way as there is little demand for their shoddy product.

Red Smith
American Fork, UT

In 10 years printed papers may be non-existent. Both the trib and des news may just be new blogs so why bother with anti-trust?

Many printed Newspapers have died or are dying because of the internet and social media.

A Utah house wife from her kitchen can have 2 million subscribers compared to Utah's SL Trib's 60,000 subscribers. The house wife is a better writer.

Nothing limits the trib or desnews subscription base but themselves and quality of services.

The digital market place not a DOA is the issue here. If the Des news or the Tribe had better products they'd have more subscribers. Better writers = better subscription rates. CNN is nearly defunt while Fox News is robust.

The Postal Service could of had the UPS/FEDX business, but USPS did not engage the market place.

Salt Lake Tribune printed newspaper subscriptions were 82,987 in 2010. Today probably 50,000. A paper with 50,000 subscriptions is hardly worthy of a DOJ/Utah anti-trust review. People don't want printed news anymore.

Today we have KUTV2 new, ABC 4 News, KSL 5 news, Fox 13, and on and on.

Would the Deseret News and the Tribune post the JOA so we can read it?

mohokat
Ogden, UT

The Trib being liberal exhibits their liberal setting. That is wah, wah, wah.

riverofsun
St.George, Utah

Thank you DN Subscriber,
You magnificently, thoroughly, and understandably explained why a state needs more than one newspaper.
One simply just cannot have all the news articles written to fit within one's very own moral compass.
America was not designed for that sort of censorship.
Sorry.

Strider303
Salt Lake City, UT

As I see the elephant, the Trib is loosing money and subscribers or is it subscribers and then money? No matter. The Trib owners want to renegotiate the JOA and both partners in the JOA agree to the change. Property and money is exchanged and both parties are satisfied.

Nowhere is there a report of an editor from the DesNews ensconced in the Trib's newsroom, nor a similar set up at the DesNews. Both papers continue to publish. Why is anyone's nose out of place?

It appears that some people want the world, their world, to remain the way it used to be. But it can't remain static in a dynamic industry.

Life happens. Will the Trib survive? Who knows. I do not subscribe to the paper, and evidently the diminishing numbers of subscribers is forcing the owners to take corrective action to preserve their interests as they, the owners, see fit.

Will the litigants sue to have the state support the Trib if or when it reaches a state of financial unviability and the owners decide to either sell the assets or just close up shop?

Iron Rod
Salt Lake City, UT

Why is it such a big secret where the Deseret News got the money to pay the New York hedge fund owners of the tribune?

How much was paid to the hedge fund?

Will the Tribune see any of that money?

Interesting but unanswered questions?

Anyone care for a guess?

baddog
Cedar Rapids, IA

Regarding the lawsuit filed by former Trib employees:

Usually it is required that those filing suit have some standing, or financial involvement at, at least. I don't know that being a former employee or owner without such involvement qualifies.

If the legal owners of the Trib decide to print with white ink on purple paper, that is their prerogative. If the deal they established with the Deseret News makes them happy, so be it.

I have to wonder what political motivation brings the Utah Attorney General into the situation.

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