@ BlueHuskyWeak excuses. Utah's offense has been in turmoil
too; much more so than BYU's has been in. Also, the FG in 2012 that was
missed would have only put it into OT. far from a guaranteed win for the
Cougs.But as it stands. It has been 1,669 days. since BYU last beat
Utah.Also, FWIW Utah qualified for, and won, the Sun Bowl as a
member of the PAC-12. Sun Belt takes PAC-12 #4, while the Fight Hunger Bowl
takes PAC-12 #6.
@bluto1 of 3 reasons Oregon not listed as a hop PAC-12 team. An honest
mistake or you know they will nenes schedule BYU or you don,t think they area
top team.You do know that in the three years BYU has been an independent
they have a scheduled game against 6 PA-12 teams none of which are on your top
teams list. (Washingtonwas a bowl game.))In the next 8 years BYU has 12
games scheduled against these top teams And 4against those not on your top list.
That,s 1.5 games per year against the team you hold so dear. Good luck
convincing knowledgeable fans that is a p5 type schedule.Taysom4heismanWere you satisfied media addressed your 3 points? By
far the most disappointing media day to date.
to BlueHuskyDoes 4 in a row count as dominance? What about 8 of 11?
Nice try Trolls. Lets see Utah get bowl eligible for those PAC 12 bottom feeder
bowls like Fight Hunger (Washington v BYU) before you spend anymore time
knee-jerking against any mention of BYU. Yes, Utah squeaked out three wins
against BYU. You lucked into a situation where BYU's offenses were in a
state of turmoil with Heaps then Nelson. Even then you won by blocking a last
second field goal and lucking out on a missed field goal. Had those gone in, the
0-4 would have been 2-2.That, my friends is not dominance. It is
luck.Now, what is Utah's record against Washington? Hmmm. Zero
wins. All time. That is dominance.See, that's the difference.
As a Husky, I've seen Oregon beat the Dawgs 10 straight years. Sadly, that
too is dominance. Lucking out 2 of 4 games is not dominance. It is, in fact,
just the breaks of the game. Like Portugal getting a last-second goal in
BYU not scheduling Utah any more? That is the best idea I have heard this
morning. BYU would get far better exposure and national attention by beating the
better teams in the PAC10+2 than beating the teams that reside in the lower half
of the conference. The problem though is actually winning those games. The loss
to Washington in the bowl game was huge, that really set you back as far as
prestige. But losing to Utah was even bigger. I am not sure that losing to a
upper level PAC10+2 team is better than losing to a bottom dwelling Utah. I
think it is a great idea, play the upper level PAC10+2 team, put a team on the
field that can compete and/or even win, that is a lot smarter than playing Utah
on a consistent basis. However, Utah hasn't become competitive in PAC10+2
in 3 seasons, can BYU do it in 1 or 2?
Bluto is right Utah needs us way more then we need them. Anyone will line up to
play us with a national brand and great teams and NFl players n'stuff. We don't need utah they need a good schedule not us. Byu really
didn't commit anything wrong. The Ncaa just wan'ts to make us look bad
but we didn't do anything wrong.
Typically on byu's media day, Utah has a big announcement, just to take
what little attention byu would get away from byu. Its not so much we're
competing against byu(we own them on the field) but any time we get increase the
profile of our program and do something that byu doesn't like, its good
with me!I wonder what Utah's announcement will be today
@Tomahawk Red"BYU is such a national brand that the ACC and SEC
think they are nothing more than a MWC grade program. "Your
comment is meaningless because of Utah's example. The Utes are in the PAC
12 and, judging by their performance so far, they are still nothing more than a
MWC grade program.And at the end of nearly every season, BYU is
ranked higher than Utah, so I'd have to say that BYU's chances are
BlutoSandy, UTHere is hoping that BYU never schedules Utah again.BYU fans would much rather see games with prominent Pac teams with
National Brands and Legacy, (just like BYU) and not their Conference
Bottom-feeders.---------Sure, keep taking those 2 for 1s
if they make you happy.LOLBYU is such a national brand
that the ACC and SEC think they are nothing more than a MWC grade program. And
they are right.Enjoy that national brand.Ha ha ha.
panana-- I don't see that comment by Kyle as being "snippy" at all.
It's what happened and I'm a BYU fan. I can't imagine how hard
it is to keep comments measured in the high pressured situation following a game
like that. Kyle's a good coach and man whether he ever works at BYU or
Can this BYU and Big 12 promo please stop? The Big 12 is not interested in BYU
due to the fact that BYU does not bring enough to the table to make the
conversation worthwhile. Same goes for the other major conferences. This is not
news and only stirs up false hopes in BYU fans.Move on.
DEW Cougars:Kyle will never come into the Cougars coaching system or
athletic system. Those responsible for making the ultimate decision will
remember his snippy comment after the game where the Ute fans flooding the field
almost cost them the game, "we had to beat them 3 times in order to
@Aggie5 - don't worry, Kyle Whitingham will get fired either this or next
year. Bronco will be demoted to keep his D"s job while Kyle take over HD at
BYU! Sound good to me.
@hedgehogI actually read it on BYU's official website, and a
person within the program said they do not anticipate major violations or major
punishments. In fact, there is a chance the NCAA won't punish BYU at all
and everything will be self-imposed. Don't trick yourself into thinking the
death penalty (or anything close to it) is a possibility.@Aggie5Considering Bronco's contract is through 2016, he will last at
least 3 years unless the program really went downhill or if Bronco was involved
in covering up the violations. And neither of those are very likely. His job is
Bronco won't last another 2 years. Poor outcomes, strange decisions on
plays and lack of offense. And then the violations to boot. BYU will not except
violations and keep a coach.
Whose idea was it for BYU to go independent?If it was a success or
failure who was responsible for this idea?
Utah-BYU, when it is played, does not belong in November. Sorry.November is for conferences positioning. Not nonconference exhibition
games.BYU belongs in September or occasionally October on
Here is hoping that BYU never schedules Utah again.BYU fans would
much rather see games with prominent Pac teams with National Brands and Legacy,
(just like BYU) and not their Conference Bottom-feeders.Seriously,
UCLA, USC, Cal, ASU, Arizona, Stanford, Washington....versus....Utah? Let's get serious folks.
Good questions. I hope these things are covered and answered. Some things we
know from years past...the offensive line will be one of the best ever...the
running attack will consist of 3 different plays all run into the middle of the
line...quarterback play will be projected as improved unless you count
passing...line backing will be reported as better with KVN's departure
being ignored...we'll have the best group of receivers ever...the schedule
is going to be really tough...oh, the offense will be creative and well
designed...finally, half time will be used to make adjustments in the game plan
so that we actually do better in the 3rd quarter.
I look forward to hearing the answers to these questions in future articles. I
might include a couple of follow-ups:1. What is on the table in
negotiations to enter a major conference. I presume playing on Sunday is out.
Are television rights, especially the right to rebroadcast home games on your
own network, untouchable as well?2. Is Independence still a viable
option in the current landscape of college sports or is it dependent on the P5
granting BYU the same type of status they give to Notre Dame?3. The
worst kept secret in the NCAA is that many athletes receive "impermissible
benefits" - often just to get by economically. What is BYU's position
on increasing benefits to student athletes that pays the true cost of going to
school?4. Will there be a long-term contract with Utah for the
"rivalry game" or will it continue to be negotiated two or three years
at a time with no game at all sometimes?
@Taysom4HeismanI believe the Nebraska announcement in 2/12 was when
Nebraska announced they had scheduled four opening game opponents. As I recall
they were: Florida Atlantic, BYU, Fresno State, and So. Alabama. (I believe
their 2013 opening opponent (Wyoming) was already scheduled.) Almost a SEC
ND, Army, and BYU will be the only 3 independent teams (this year? or next?)Therefore, all other teams are in a conference. For those teams out of
conference games serve several purposes. Primarily: opportunity to prepare for
conference; Also a chance to play a variety of teams not in conference. This
allows for variety both in teams played and location.As members of
the PAC-12, Utah is able to schedule three non conference games each year. This
years schedule is perfect. The first three games are against non-conference
foes. Idaho State should allow us to play many combinations of players and test
our new offensive scheme. Fresno State - series is 5wins 4 losses for Utah and
last played 15 years ago. Michigan - the big house and a true test! Then
we're into conference - and what a November! Oregon in RES. Stanford
away; Arizona in RES; and Colorado away. BYU? Perfect to play
every 3 or 4 or 5 years in preseason. They are a great opponent for us to get
ready for conference.
"The violations were most likely pretty minor and won't cost us
scholarships"tyson4hismanWhere did you read this?
Cougarboard? Until the NCAA comes back with a verdict the penalty can range from
a public slap on the wrist to the death penalty.If your a bYu
recruit, it's just another reason to shy away from this program.
I'm looking for a couple things:1) An update on the
investigation. The violations were most likely pretty minor and won't cost
us scholarships, but who knows if recruits could be turned away by a possible
punishment down the road? Hopefully BYU can end this once and for all on Monday.
It can only help BYU to quickly get this thing out of the way.2) I
can almost guarantee that BYU will announce a series with a big time program.
Last year it was USC. If I remember correctly, Nebraska, Michigan, Stanford, and
Wisconsin were all announced on a media day, some in 2011 and some in 2012. It
may have been a different time of year that some were announced, but I remember
USC last year for sure. There's a chance we hear more details on our Notre
Dame series too.3) Anything about our relationship with the Big 12.
And I don't want to hear "we want to be in the Big 12". I want to
hear BYU's chances of making it in, or of getting a scheduling agreement.