Comments about ‘Mike Lee thinks the IRS is involved in a cover-up’

Return to article »

Published: Tuesday, June 17 2014 5:35 p.m. MDT

  • Oldest first
  • Newest first
  • Most recommended
St.George, Utah

This must be Mike Lee's assignment this week.
If you notice, Cruz, and the other GOP conservative minions have been assigned certain topics to rant about as well.
They are to "test the waters", according to their GOP big brothers.

Layton, UT

The NSA probably has a copy of the emails... just ask them... don't even need a warrant these days... :D

Provo, UT

More liberal groups were targeted than conservative. So if repubs want the democrats to outspend them and beat them even more in elections then please, let's keep investigating the IRS.

Mister J
Salt Lake City, UT

Mik-lee who short sold his own home/mortgage has ZERO credibility when it comes to financial matters

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Anybody who understands computers knows emails don't go missing just because a server crashes. They have backups (by law). If the files AND the backups are missing.. it's a sure sign of a cover-up.

This doesn't happen by accident (both the files AND the backups being wiped).


That's when I knew the investigation into the AG in Utah was onto something... when the AG said his emails had been wiped out and he couldn't produce them for the investigators.

That doesn't just happen. Somebody has to make it happen


If there's one thing we learn from the recent AG investigation... it's that these files CAN be reconstructed (IF they want to bad enough and have enough money).

These files being so completely wiped from existence tells me one thing... that there's something to cover up here (it wasn't just an accident). So I hope they keep investigating (as they did in the AG investigation). Until they get the files they are looking for.

This isn't an accident. Government correspondence (which is required to be backed up for this purpose by law) doesn't go missing by accident.

Cottonwood Heights, UT

losing emails is a serious problem. However, granting tax free status to some of these organizations may indeed be illegal according to a law passed by Congress over 50 years ago. So is Congress now really crying foul because the IRS is not following an illegal policy. Who is right and who is wrong?

Morgan, UT

Once again our liberal friends have NO answers for yet another one of their messiah's scandals. Instead of dealing with the obvious cover-up, they must attack the messenger. Saul Alinsky would be proud.

The corruption of the Left is limitless. So let me see if I follow the Liberals on this: 1) Lois Learner took the 5th during the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee hearings (didn't answer questions), and 2) we now have supposed damaged hard drives and missing e-mails relevant to the IRS targeting conservative groups, yet the Liberals call this a "conspiracy" by the right?

Obama's scandals make Watergate look like a misdemeanor!

It is truly pathetic watching the Left in this country make excuses for the lawlessness of this Thug we call President. If you folks think your earning brownie points with your Dear Leader, guess again. He doesn't see you as loyal, he sees you as fools. When he's done with you, he'll spit you out. You'll be under the same totalitarian oppression as the rest of us. Sadly, you won't believe it until you're living it.

Cottonwood Heights, UT

@ daehder1

The national debt is roughly $40,000 for every man, woman and child claiming US citizenship. Taxing all of the churches and non-profits in this country wouldn't even make a dent in that number. The desperately needed social programs you talk about are the main reason for the debt and I can personally attest to the fact that local churches and non-profits across the country have far greater success in changing peoples lives than a government program will ever have. If you personally want to do more to help people in need, feel free to voluntarily give to the non-profit or church of your choice. I am sure they would welcome the support and the money will be far better spent than if you sent it to the government.

Karen R.
Houston, TX

@ 1Observer

Is it even possible any longer to separate some Conservatives from their religiosity? Isn't this the way they want it? They see it as a virtue, don't they, and wear it proudly on their sleeves? Some even believe one cannot be "a true Conservative" without it.

So how is it possible NOT to see religion in everything they do when they themselves proudly declare that this is precisely the case?

BTW, Ajax's comment didn't call out any one religion. It called out religion in general and it was right on.

Salt Lake City, UT

Six computers crash simultaneously? Sure, along with Obama sycophants I believe that.

What in Tucket?
Provo, UT

FOr most of us emails are backed up by Yahoo, Gmail, etc. 5% of hard drives crash in a given year. If the IRS did not have back ups they should be fired. Even crashed hard drives contain a lot of information that can be retrieved. This is a no brainer. The IRS is corrupt. I don't know where religion or Bush comes in here.

Salt Lake City, UT

Failure to thoroughly vet charges of partisan misuse of the IRS would be tragic. Confidence in government institutions is very low - Congress, the VA and the Border patrol are but a few examples. Both sides of the isle should be eager to clear the air. "There's nothing here folks, move along," is not sufficient.

Kellie Wood
Orem, UT

There are always email back up systems if not triple systems in place for disaster contingency planning including back-up tapes. Emails never disappear. You're spot on Senator Lee. I have a master's in IT Management.

Bountiful, UT

Yes, probably the IRS is involved in a cover up. But once Congress tried to deny Lois Learner her 5th amendment rights, all pretense of following the rules and the law flew out the window.

If indeed (As Orin Hatch claims) there is some arcane rule that making a statement before Congress that you are innocent, strips a person of their 5th amendment rights, shouldn't that person at least be warned? Orin Hatch stated that she gave up that right when she declared her innocence, which rule is this Senator Hatch? I have my doubts that it even exists.

I am not for the IRS targeting people, but neither am I for a federal employee being railroaded.

Dixie Dan
Saint George, UT

Mike Lee is living proof of how bad our caucus system is. How anyone with an I.Q. above 1 would think that he would be better than Bob Bennett is a mystery. Bennett voted to save the country with the TARP bill while Lee shut down the government and deeply hurt our economy.

Laura Bilington
Maple Valley, WA

1Observer writes, "The desperately needed social programs you talk about are the main reason for the debt".

Sir, you need to "observe" the federal budget. Over half of it goes for what is euphemistically called "defense". Weapons and planes that the Navy and Air Force don't even want, but which are going to be manufactured in the district of the guy in charge of appropriations...

Cottonwood Heights, UT

@ Karen R - I still don't see how religion has motivated Lee's scrutiny of the IRS. Because a person professes religiosity as you claim doesn't necessarily mean that everything they do is motivated by their self-proclaimed religious virtue. That would be painting all religious conservatives with too broad a brush and I don't think could be substantiated by fact. As for singling out a religion, Ajax singled out Mike Lee and his religion and then went on to include all religions so I will give that one to you and give Ajax the benefit of the doubt.

I have personally worked with a number of conservatives in DC who are religious people and I rarely sense any religious overtones in our conservations. I have also worked with a number of rabid liberals in Congress and in those conversations I sensed none of those overtones. Most can and do focus on issues and it would be unfair to say that either side is motivated solely by overly-religious or overly-liberal philosophy.

But all of this is a distraction from the original intent of the article - The IRS is covering up and should be investigated.

Karen R.
Houston, TX

@ 1Observer

The point is that, for too many now, there is no distinction to be made between their politics and their religion. It doesn't matter what the issue is. Everything is seen through the lens of a righteous crusade.

Far too often these people are serving their religion, not their country.

Morgan, UT

Karen R. said:

"The point is that, for too many now, there is no distinction to be made between their politics and their religion. It doesn't matter what the issue is. Everything is seen through the lens of a righteous crusade.

Far too often these people are serving their religion, not their country."


Karen, please focus like a laser, and deal with the subject at hand: Obama's IRS Department targeting conservative groups, and conveniently deleting e-mails and destroying hard drives relevant to the investigation.

I know trying to make Lee the issue helps to take the heat off of your Dear Leader, but we both know what happened is indefensible. Okay, so it's no big deal...cool! I guess the next Republican President can target left-wing groups through the IRS and you'll be fine with that as well...right? After all, Obama is setting precedence, is he not?

deseret pete
robertson, Wy

If any of you believe the IRS is innocent of what they have been accused of,I have some ocean front property in Wyoming that I would like to talk to you about.

to comment

DeseretNews.com encourages a civil dialogue among its readers. We welcome your thoughtful comments.
About comments