Richard is at it again... but too bad that suu is ranked clear at 6 in the power
that is the big sky
Bingo tinplater the only thing I know about USU football is, until Gary Andersen
came around they were a walkover for everybody. Now they are only a walkover
for the big teams. How has he surpassed those no names from the bench?
Stang0, since you can nominate no one you obviously know nothing about USU
football and past quarterbacks. But there is a greatest USU quarterback,
possibly Bill Munson, Tony Cavillo, Jim Turner, Kent Harris etc. But from my
perspective Keeton has surpassed them and still has a year to play.
@tinplaterI'd nominate no one really. Keeton is always hurt,
no one remembers the other guys name who Keeton replaced, and there are a bunch
of no names before him. I don't get your meaning with that "takes
courage" comment. That sounds rather odd to me tinplater. Sure Manfred Man
I'll wager $100. But we don't know each other so that would kinda be
pointless. I know what I saw now let's move on.
Stang, go check any credible news website that covers sports. Go check ESPN. If
you search for the statistics of the last Super Bowl, I guarantee it will list
that Bobby Wagner had 10 tackles in that game, tied for the highest number on
the team. How about a wager: $100 says Bobby Wagner registered 10
tackles in the Super Bowl against the Broncos. If you know for a
fact he didn't play in that game, by all means this should be a slam dunk
@Stang0, if he isn't the greatest USU qb, who do you nominate? The fact
that he has been injured much of his career only adds to his greatness.. to
accomplish what he did with partial seasons. As you know, overcoming handicaps
and excelling takes great courage.
I'm the only one who watched the Super Bowl. You are right I don't
pay attention to the NFL. But I know he didn't play.
@Stang"And Bobby Wagner played about as much as Robert Turbin.
Maybe a little less in the Super Bowl. This is true fact."Actually, this is false. Anybody who pays attention to the NFL would know
Wagner has been a 2-year (going on 3) starter for the Seahawks. In fact, Wagner
has started in almost every game and has finished as one of the top tacklers on
the team since getting drafted.It's patently silly (and
incorrect) to insist he doesn't play much.
08StanleyThank you for admitting that. Hey tinplater what happened
to your claim that he was the best? How can he be remembered for being the
greatest Aggie QB if he's always injured?
My morning chuckle comes from SUU fan who continues to amaze us with his insight
and grasp of reality. Keeton is one of the better quarterbacks in the country,
not the greatest or the best, but really exceptional. He brings a level of
excitement and a sense that "anything can happen on any given play". He
has a national following and my hope is that this senior year proves to be
sensational. He will be remembered as the greatest Aggie quarterback for both
on and off the field accomplishments.
For claiming to know alot about football and its fan's, I sure dont know
very much about it.
@Manfred ManI keep having to repeat myself because some people just
don't get it. Am I the only one who actually watched the Super Bowl? I
guess I was.
Looks like some of these comments spilled over from a previous article not too
far back. Being the die-hard Seahawks fan that I am, reading Stang's
completely indefensible and ludicrous argument that Bobby Wagner didn't
play in the Super Bowl is just way too funny.
Oh and the other person who makes me laugh is 08Stanley. He thinks he will get
to me but all he will ever do is flatter me. No, actually in my world water is
wet. I do wish he would learn to spell. It's spelled respected my friend.
But good effort. Overall you're getting better. And Bobby Wagner played
about as much as Robert Turbin. Maybe a little less in the Super Bowl. This is
true fact. Keep trying my friend. This truly is comical. FYI guy's I
know I'm not respected because my opinion is different.
@Go Big BlueIn my world, water isnt wet, I'm well ruhspected on
these board's, and Bobby Wagners 10 tackles in the super bowl don't
You are right Go Big Blue. Checkmate I win this round. Sambone just makes me
laugh. Continuing to claim he doesn't read anything I say but he usually
comments after I've said something and say's something like
"Don't talk to SUU's only fan" when he clearly knows I'm
not the only fan.
Wagner and Turbin didn't play in the Super Bowl. Trubin doesn't
contribute to anything in the NFL. The only difference between Wagner/Turbin
and Keeton is Wagner/Turbin played four years of college. Keeton is always
injured. End of story Go Big Blue. Keeton isn't half the QB you think he
@Aggie238I certainly appreciate the stats you're posting, but I
feel you're wasting your time arguing with SUU's only fan.
We'll file your view of Keeton with your views that Wagner and Turbin would
never be drafted, would never make Seahawks roster, would never contribute in
the NFL, never played in the Super Bowl, etc etc etc
Time will tell you what I already know. Keeton won't get drafted and will
become the QB coach at USU after he graduates. Make him look better but is he
actually better? The answer you are looking for is no. Like I said the only
chance he will get is the chance to be the QB coach after graduation.
They're only better because of their NFL careers. Time will tell how well
Keeton does in the NFL. Until then, I will withhold judgement. In the
meantime, here's a comparison between Alex Smith's college career and
Chuckie Keeton's. Smith also didn't record any stats his freshman
year, so we'll include his senior year instead as we did with Steve
Young.Total TDs: Keeton 69, Smith 62Passing Yards: Keeton
5961, Smith 5203Rushing Yards: Keeton 1153, Smith 1072Completion %
(average): Keeton 66.5, Smith 66.3 Interceptions: Smith 8, Keeton 13Average Rating: Smith 164.4, Keeton 151.4 Note the corrections to
Keeton's stats on completion % and rating. Both corrections actually make
him look better, and represent official stats, rather than my previous
calculations which were in error. The correction to his rating stat actually
puts him ahead of Steve Young in that category.Keeton is very
comparable to both Steve Young and Alex Smith, based on their respective college
careers. Whether he has the "intangibles" to compete at a comparable
level in the NFL remains to be seen, but based on the evidence we can compare so
far, he has a better than good chance to do so.
Steve Young and Alex Smith are already better than Keeton. Keeton isn't
even close to their level.
Stang, Time remains to see which of those QBs is better than Keeton.
You're the one who said that Keeton and Johnson were "no
different," so don't go putting words in my mouth. But, to back up my
point that Keeton's stats are better, lets compare numbers for both players
through their junior year (since Keeton doesn't yet have a senior season to
compare):Total TDs: Keeton 69, Johnson 41Passing Yards:
Keeton 5961, Johnson 4866Rushing Yards: Keeton 1153, Johnson 720Completion % (average): Keeton 65.9%, Johnson 65.0%Interceptions:
Keeton 13, Johnson 18Average Rating: Keeton 149.7, Johnson 135.0Chuckie Keeton > Brian JohnsonAnd just for fun, lets compare
Keeton's college career to Steve Young's, in the same 3 year scenario.
(Young didn't play as a freshman, so we're essentially including his
senior season as a comparison to Keeton's freshman season.)Total TDs: Young 74, Keeton 69Passing Yards: Young 7733, Keeton
5961Rushing Yards: Keeton 1153, Young 1084Completion % (average):
Keeton 65.9, Young 65.2Interceptions: Keeton 13, Young 33Average
Rating: Young 149.8, Keeton 149.7Interesting. They compare better
than I thought they would.
The one time he wasn't injured for the entire year. And last I checked the
Sugar Bowl was a game that's a lot bigger than the Poinsettia or Potato
Bowls. Who is better than Keeton? I want to know who you think is better than
Keeton. Alex Smith perhaps? Or maybe Steve Young? Or maybe just maybe those
players can't live up to the greatness that is Chuckie Keeton. Even though
one of those players is an NFL hall of famer and Keeton is going to be lucky to
@Stang08Isn't it ironic that you compare Keeton to Brian
Johnson, and yet Johnson was the QB that dismantled Alabama in the 2008 Sugar
Bowl? That Alabama team went on to win, oh, maybe one or two national
championships, riding the strength of it's defense...the same defense that
Johnson & Co. cut through like a hot knife through butter.Incidentally, Keetons stats so far are significantly better than Brian
As a Utah fan, I hope Chuckie tears it up this year. He is the funnest QB to
watch, and I am glad Utah doesn't have to play against him.As
far as being the best in the state, as of right now - I would have to say he is
the best in the state, but that remains to be seen. He certainly has the
potential to have a great season and represent USU like no other.Go
Why are you disappointed that a fellow fan answered you? That's what you
wanted wasn't it Sambone? I like to talk to fellow fan's such as
yourself and show that not all non aggies hate the aggies. I didn't
graduate from USU but I've been happy to see they have been on the up and
up.Some teams are really doing well in their conferences and their
division, some are not. For example the three that are heavily discussed here,
USU has done great since Coach Andersen set a foundation in Logan. The U
hasn't lived up to the hype since moving up to the PAC12(sorry this is a
fact. And since Coach Ed Lamb was hired back in 08 SUU has been fantastic.
Fellow fan's can discuss great football.
Why on earth do Utah and Southern Utah fan(s) hang out on USU pages? Makes
absolutely no sense to me. And I'm a bit disappointed Southpaw chose not to
respond to my question. He seems like a decent guy.
Last word let's put it this way. Keeton is like former Utah QB Brian
Johnson. Remember that guy? He succeeded Alex Smith. Anyway, that QB was
always injured always. Keeton is no different.
@SamboneBeing a fan of all schools I agree. However, some may not.
It seems all some fan's want is argue who is better. Chris B, tinplater,
Ifel of a-sofa, Stang08 and yes you on occasion come to my mind. But yes I
agree with you whole heartedly Sambone.
I'm sure Southpaw would agree it's bush league to disparage a
hard-working student athlete coming off a serious injury. Those student athletes
just want to play the game they love, earn an education, and show their school
spirit in the process. What's wrong with that?
Inquiring minds wish to know who Richard really is? I've listened to that
for a while now and it's got me curious. Please Ifel-ofa-sofa indulge a
fellow fan for a moment.
Richard comes along and does his best to disparage Chuckie... but he is reading
Correct me if I'm wrong Chris, but didn't the Utes lose to New Mexico
multiple times in the Mountain West? And who can forget that 27-0 laugher for
the Rebels in 2007? LOL. Chuckie should have a great season. If he
stays healthy, I see no reason why we can't compete for the conference
redthunder, I wouldn't say that Chuckie was "the best qb by far in the
state" but I would say he is the best all around qb. He runs, he passes,
and he can fire up his team like no other. I was sad to see him get hurt, but
he has proven to be a tough one. I hope he has the kind of season he deserves
(AND, without injury) and gets drafted high in the NFL draft.
Too long of an article to read the whole thing. Keeton is the best QB in the
state by far and I wish him the best.
Chris B can't resist a little jab, no matter what the topic. What he
doesn't realize is that for decades USU was a nobody. Now we are winning
and competitive in a conference at a level where we belong. Not so sure one can
say that about the Utes. Too bad we don't play U this year, Chuckie is 1
and 1 against them.
In my opinion, as good as Chuckie has been, I always thought he was a little
skinny and fragile.What a difference and injury can make!This young
man has WORKED during his rehab!He is a lot thicker and stronger and looks
a lot better physically.I am excited to see what Chuckie 2.0 is going to
do this season...Go Aggies!
It has been a pure joy to watch Keeton play starting from his first game as a
freshman. Chuckie is the real deal on and off the field. Here's hoping
the Aggies put it all together for an amazing season. After knocking on the
door for the past few years it is time for USU to win the big out of state
opening game. Go Big Blue!!!
It's almost Chuckie Time!
Playing the MWC is a little weird - you play the big boys for 1-2 games right at
the start of the season, and then have 9-10 games against nobodies. Its a
struggle to pretend to get excited to be playing teams like Wyoming, UNLV, and
New Mexico. Trust us, we know.Boy am I glad I don't have that
problem anymore. Hope Chuckie can play healthy and lead usu to a WAC title.Go aggiesGo UTES
Chuckie Keaton is money. He has been since his first game at Auburn. I wish USU
all the best.
@Clue BayThe article was updated after Sambonethegreat commented.
How fortunate we Aggies are to have this exceptional young man back for
hopefully an amazing senior season. He has those intangible qualities that
inspires those around him to give their very best too…a natural leader
Best to this kid, at the best school in Utah!
@Sambonethegreat - The article reads "Keeton is a native of Houston, and
since Griffin played his college football at Baylor, the Aggies'
quarterback is well-acquainted with Griffin's accomplishments." It then
references that Griffin is a Texas kid - meaning he was raised in Texas.
Excellent, excellent article. Enjoyed learning about the personal side of this
amazing young man.
The article mentioned RGIII played at Texas. That's inaccurate; Griffin
played at Baylor University in Waco, Texas. Des News, please don't overlook
those details.That being said, I'm super stoked to have Chuckie
back for his senior year. He's been so much fun to watch the last few
years. I was extremely fortunate to be able to watch almost all of his home
games in person. Phenomenal athlete and total class act. He even signed my
football in silver marker!Hope you have a monster senior season,
#16. Go Ags! Beat Tennessee!