"In one case, Susan B. Anthony List v. Driehaus, the court held that the
anti-abortion group Susan B. Anthony List (SAL)..."First,
I'm pretty sure SAL would prefer to being referred to as a
"pro-life" group.Secondly, the author confused the act of
lying with that of speaking falsely. The two are not necessarily the same
thing.One can very honestly and sincerely speak either the truth or
something that is not the truth. When one asserts something that is false,
honestly thinking it is true, that person hasn't lied, they're simply
mistaken.On the other hand, when one asserts something they know to
be false, or says something they know will lead someone else to believe
something they know to be false, then they are lying.In short, the
truth or falsehood of what someone says has no bearing, per se, on whether they
person is lying. It is the congruence of what a person asserts is true versus
what they knowingly lead others to believe is true that determines whether a
statement/assertion/insinuation/etc. is a an act of dishonesty.
I once caught a fish this BIG!Famous Utah lie.
And remember Hillary said that she and Bill were broke when they left office.
It aleady is protected. Barack and his Democrat buddies have built up a Mount
Everest pile of lies with zero consequences. As long as the media and politians
provide smoke screens for each other then lying is open season. "If you like
your insurance you can keep your insurance period".....the lie of the year
which will live in infamy...thanks to Barack!!
Why is it legal for a police officer to lie to a suspect but illegal for the
suspect to lie to the officer?
JoeBlow,He was impeached, but not convicted. He should have been
convicted and removed from office.Maverick,Thanks for
remembering the Clinton administration.Banks DID fail, where was the
too-big-to-fail lie?Tax cuts DID help, we had unemployment rates
below 5% for most of the bush years.And there is a difference
between misinterpreting and lying – but I guess that does not fit you
political bent.CHS85,At least Nixon had the decency to resign.
Was Nixon ever impeached?But thanks for admitting Clinton lied.
@RedShirt1701"How much time did Clinton spend in jail?"Almost as much as Richard Nixon.....
Free speech is only tolerated when supporting left leaning causes.
"Outlaw lying and 90% of our politicians would be in BIG trouble."Only 90%? C'mon Old Man. You are being far too generous.
Outlaw lying and 90% of our politicians would be in BIG trouble.
Who decides if a politician is lying? Should we trust Obama to give us the
absolute truth about Benghazi? Should he have the authority to jail anyone who
gives opposing "facts"? Government is not in the business to censor
speech. Government is not a clearing house for political speech. If a
politician lies about his opponent, the facts will eventually come out. If a
politician falsely denies accusations, the facts will eventually show that he
lied about the accusations. In any case, the wrong person may be elected, but
that person will face public humiliation when the facts are known.Lying about your legal status to buy firearms is a different matter. It does
not matter if you believe that the government has no authority to restrict
ownership of firearms, the law requires that you meet certain qualifications.
Repealing the law is the proper method to handle those restrictions. Lying is
not an option.
I seem to remember an administration not too long ago that lied through its
teeth!It lied about tax cuts that were supposed to help us, banks
too big to fail, it lied about keeping us safe, and it lied to get us into a war
in Iraq.Why doesn't the dnews talk about that administration I
To "JoeBlow" yes, Clinton got away with his Purgery conviction.
Typically when people do what Clinton did, they end up in jail for a few years.
He was even convicted of obstruction of Justice. Another crime that typically
carries with it some jail time.How much time did Clinton spend in
Pres. Johnson was the best to come up with, accuse his opponent of a shameful
thing so the rest of the time is trying to prove his innocence. Bearing false
witness should be ageist the law.
Fox News gets away with it. So does the Dnews.
An honest politician is one who only lies when he absolutely has to. A dishonest
politician lies all the time, just to keep in practice. (I wish I could remember
who said this so I could give him or her credit.)
"As Pres. Clinton proved, even purgury won't cost you if you have
enough power and friends in high places."What? He was
impeached. What did you want them to do? Hang him?
With the force and conviction of a political campaign, plus the money some of
them have available now, the official sanction of the long unofficial practice
of lying is not a positive thing. Even if a lie is immediately exposed, it will
persist and damage is done. Plus, it doesn't say much about the process or
its' practitioners, does it? On the other hand, free speech is
unassailable. It seems that soon we shall be able to yell 'fire' in a
There are various levels of being dishonest - there is lying to someone who
asked you out, and you really just don't want to,but don't want to
hurt their feelings. Then there is lying where by you try to gain either
property or influence through lying... and in most cases this is illegal. In
Utah specifically the law that covers this is 9.1-7 Larceny by Obtaining
Property by False Pretenses -- § 53a-119 (2) and §§ 53a-122
through 53a-125b.In between these two examples there is a whole lot
of grey space. Is knowingly misrepresenting another's view so that you can
gain office legal? If it raises to the level of defamation... yes. If it is
just differing views... no.
If lying was a crime then Rep. Cummings and a whole lot of other people in all
branches of government (from both political parties) would be in jail.Good luck on getting congress to pass laws that make lying a crime (unless
they exempt themselves of course). As Pres. Clinton proved, even purgury
won't cost you if you have enough power and friends in high places.