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Published: Wednesday, June 18 2014 1:35 p.m. MDT

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GaryO
Virginia Beach, VA

" . . . My guess is the tea party is deepening, but not broadening . . . "

. . . like an acute disease affecting the Republican Party.

I get it.

The silver lining to that polluted cloud is that the dichotomy between the Democratic Party and the Republican Party is becoming much more clear as the Republican Party becomes more and more contaminated with harmful Tea Party dogma.

On the one side have the Democrats, the can-do party of good sense and pragmatism, vs the Republican Party, the Tea Party 2.0, the Party of ideologues and do-nothing extremists.

The Republican devolution is making it easier for sensible voters to make the right choice.

FatherOfFour
WEST VALLEY CITY, UT

I personally hope the Tea Party never dies. Biggest gift to the democrats ever. Thank you.

SCfan
clearfield, UT

FatherOfFour

I'm glad to read that you believe the biggest gift to the Democrats is losing the House of Representatives in 2010. The T-Party did that. Now in 2014 it looks like the T-Party could add a Republican Senate to the list of gifts to the Democrats. Thank You.

Open Minded Mormon
Everett, 00

Let's see...

The Tea-Publicans went from 61% to 41%,
a loss of of over 1/3 of themselves.

They are now only 41% of Republicans,
who are less than 40% of America = >15% of the general population.

Primary election wins or losses --

They are still a minority of the minority,
and still fading fast...

SCfan
clearfield, UT

Open Minded Mormon

Take a look at where Liberals rate in the general population. 20%. Not much better. And the trend in America is to more conservative voting as seen by recent elections and polls. So just who is it that is fading?......

FT
salt lake city, UT

No rational person would believe that Ted Cruz or Rand Paul has a chance to win a national election. The Tea party will be relevant in the GOP and regionally but irrelevant nationally because their leaders and support are not the face for the majority of Americans.

Ford DeTreese
Provo, UT

OMM:

According to a 2012 Pew survey, 35 percent of registered voters identify themselves as Democrat, 28 percent as Republicans. 33 percent are independent. Of these, 15 percent lean Republican, 13 percent lean Democrat. Which means Democrats hold the edge by about 5 percent. But as old white guys like me die off, the GOP will be in worse shape, especially if they keep blocking immigration reform, catering to the 1 percent, and waging war on the poor. Tea or no tea, the GOP is slowling becoming extinct.

slcdenizen
Murray, UT

@SCFan

"more conservative voting as seen by recent elections and polls"

That's quite some math you've done. Democrats won the majority of votes in the House, Senate, and presidency in 2012. Repubs maintained the House due to the strident efforts of late to gerrymander their districts. But if you have an alternate algorithm to support your thesis, please provide!

Roland Kayser
Cottonwood Heights, UT

The Tea Party and the Republican Party are now indistinguishable.

airnaut
Everett, 00

Whatever --

David Brat only "won" because Virginia holds and open primary,

And Democrats, Libertarians, and all Un-Affiliated voters who do not LIKE Eric Cantor,
showed up simply to vote AGAINST him, period.

But --
Let the Tea-Publicans keep thinking they are still relevant.
We enjoy their show,
besides -- it only hurts their fellow Republicans, they do nothing towards Democrats.

SharpHooks
Sandy, UT

The Tea Party makes it difficult for voters to differentiate between factions of the GOP.
This will splinter, or dilute it's 'strength'--if it even HAS any, even further.
All the while benefitting the Democratic Party, and we thank you.

4601
Salt Lake City, UT

Having no connection to the Tea Party and no detailed knowledge of their platform, I do have some sympathy for their stated goal of bringing fiscal responsibility to the US congress. The Blue Dog Democrats such as Rep.Matheson are unfortunately a dying breed and tax and spend is the mantra of current Democrats. Mr. Obama campaigned against Bush for his irresponsible and unpatriotic use of the Chinese credit card, but after the election Obama made Bush look like a miser. Much as a small percentage of the Occupy Wall Street movement has merit, the Tea Party's goal of fiscal restraint should be considered.

SCfan
clearfield, UT

FT

The current trend is that Barack Obama and his wing of the Democrat Party are not the face of the majority of Americans anymore. Polls have consistantly shown a disapproval of his Presidency. In some polls his side on some issues only gets about 33%. Which is the consistant Democrat vote. Little if any moderates left. And they are who win elections for Presidents.

slcdenizen

Which brings me to you. Yes they won the Senate, and White House, but do you really believe that the trend is not going against the Democrats for this upcoming election? If so, then you are in the minority. Even Democrat pundits they are worried about the possibility of Republicans winning the Senate. Most vulunerable Democrat Senators are in states Romney won by huge margins. Don't need any algorithm to support those facts.

HaHaHaHa
Othello, WA

Funny thing, nobody agrees on the future of the Tea Party, and I'm pretty sure it is not entirely accurate to label Rand Paul as a Tea Party candidate. My guess is that the Tea Party will be with us for quite some time. Rand Paul has as good of a chance as any Republican for national candidacy, with the exception of Ted Cruz. Billary is only really popular among the mainsteam press, and the people they influence. The future challenge for the GOP is not old white guys dying off, it is the increase of the 47% or the amount of people with their hand out, waiting for their government cheese. If non tea party, squishy, moderate stand for nothing candidates were really the answer for the GOP, then Dole, McCain, and Romney would have won hands down. The biggest obstacle for the demos is a guy named Barry. All the lies, deceptions and ineptness are quickly coming to a head, and a mean implosion is on the way.

FT
salt lake city, UT

@SCFAN
Polling of BO hardly indicates how the GOP and the tea party will fare in 2016. Whoever the GOP nominates will have to run on the party's platform and they've lost the popular vote in 5 of the 6 last elections. The demographics continue to get worse for the GOP and the Tea Party as white male voters continue to become less of the voting bloc. I suggest paying more attention to what Nate Silver tells you vs. Karl Rove or Dick Morris.

airnaut
Everett, 00

Democratic stragety against Republicans? --

Divide and Conquer.

The perfect irony is that the Tea-Party is doing most of the work FOR them.

Liberal Ted
Salt Lake City, UT

Since when has this regime told us the truth? Can anyone state a truthful statement?

With that said, the same handlers that told him terrorism has been defeated also fed him the line that the Tea Party is dead. Just more wishful thinking, from a regime that is finally starting to crumble. Just look at his pole numbers and how much his numbers match the mans he replaced. Hope and change to Despair and Disaster.

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

"Our" American Tea Party is stronger than ever thanks to the monthly scandals that pour out the White House.

SCfan
clearfield, UT

FT

Dick Morris? He hasn't been seen or heard from since November of 2012. As for Karl Rove, he did engineer two election victories for Bush, so he does understand the political landscape pretty well. As for the Republicans being an old white guy party, I'd suggest you look at the number of possible candidates they might nominate. Some are minority, and we have some pretty impressive women coming along, and all are young. The old in the next election will possibly be old Hillary. The Democrats seem to have no one on the bench if she does not run. How does one see the Democrat Party of today as anything but an old party trying to hang onto the Clinton years? Who are the new and upcoming leaders? Harry Reid? Nancy Pelosi? Barbara Mukulski? About the only one I know of is Elizabeth Warren, and she is considered very far left, of even Obama. Maybe you ought to watch a little more Fox for some perspective, which I know you don't with that comment about Dick Morris. There is more out there than MSNBC, which leaves out a lot that is not PC.

JoeCapitalist2
Orem, UT

I have never been to a Tea Party event but I don't believe a word of all the denegrading remarks of the left (some of whom are on this forum) have toward the movement.

I don't believe that it is "fracturing" the GOP. Like all popular movements, it certainly is pulling members of the establishment toward its point of view, but the same could be said of many left-wing organizations.

The left fears this movement so they will do or say anything to slow it down, even break the law (e.g. Lois Lerner).

So call it dead. Say it is full of radical right-wingers. Say it is full of bigots and haters. Say it is just what the Democrats want. (Did I miss anything?) You will certainly influence the uninformed voter, but no one with half a brain will fall for it.

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