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Published: Tuesday, June 17 2014 12:00 p.m. MDT

Updated: Tuesday, June 17 2014 12:58 p.m. MDT

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Utah'95
FPO, AE

I am hoping that many of these players choose to turn down offers from perennial powers and suit up for the Utes. Until Utah can persuade the top local talent to stay at home, they will find it very difficult to break into the upper half of the Pac 12.

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

"give the Cougars a rare prime cornerback prospect out of high school should he stay true to his commitment"

Why is this rare? And no, "limited recruiting pool" doesn't answer it unless we're saying byu doesn't get great athletes at any position.

This will be fun to watch byu fans try and explain it.

skitter
Orem, UT

I will answer you Chris. Great Cornerbacks are rare at BYU. Everyone knows this. Certain teams are great at some positions and weaker at others. For instance BYU is great at tight ends where as Utah is not. Sure we get the occasional good corner, but overall we are not great at that position. Just as you get the occasional good tight end, but overall it's not one of your strengths. Keep trying to make us feel inferior, most of the time you just end insulting your team. I always love a good laugh.

belboz70
West Jordan, UT

Chris B.,
It's easy to explain. Most of the more highly regarded CB prospects that BYU signs aren't high school kids. The CB recruits with the most hype are normally from JCs.

UteinIdaho
Sandpoint, ID

10-15 years ago I thought that in state recruiting didn't matter much. Clearly that has changed drastically. I understand that schools like USC, Florida State, etc. are going to be too much for some kids to turn down, but I really hope the Utes can snag the majority of them.

utesgoingdownthehill
Salt Lake City , UT

I agree with Chris only team Utah can compete are from WAC, right where Utah belongs, with BYU and Usu.

Magna Ute Fan
Magna, UT

I wish you all would just ignore Chris B. He's not interested in a good discussion. He just wants to poke you in the eye.

I love all these great players coming out of Utah. I hope that most of them will want to play at home in front of their family and friends.

Go Utes!

BlueNtheFace
Rancho Cucamonga, CA

Some of the instate athletes exclude themselves from BYU offers because they skip the BYU camps. This is prerequisite for getting an offer. They've made their choice known.

In some ways this article is premature in that BYU's camp ends on June 21st. So far only half of the athletes in this article have offers from the Cougars. You'll see more being made, and possibly some commits at the conclusion of camp. Brandon should know this.

Go Cougars!!

JNA
Layton, UT

I am a huge BYU fan BUT I gotta say, it is going to be harder and harder for BYU to get major recruits, sure they will land the occasional one, but why would you want to play New Mexico State, Idaho or Idaho State when you can play in Pasadena, Los Angeles, Tempe, Eugene, Florida, Texas, Nebraska,Ohio on a consistent basis. I for one do not have the answer but as a fan, it is disheartening.

Old But Not Stupid
Moorpark, CA

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

"skitter,

You didn't even close come to answering why. You just re-stated that byu doesn't get very many good corners.

Want to try again?

belboz - same for you. Want to try again and actually explain "why" byu doesn't land many good corners?"

Chris- we all noticed that you did not explain the U's tight end weakness. So again, why doesn't the U land many great tight ends????

Mikeylikesit
Davis, UT

This sure is great forum for Ute fans to comment on.

BlueNtheFace
Rancho Cucamonga, CA

@ JNA

"..why would you want to play New Mexico State, Idaho or Idaho State when you can play in Pasadena, Los Angeles, Tempe, Eugene, Florida, Texas, Nebraska,Ohio.."

Please list the home states of our away games for the 2012 thru the 2015 seasons. And know that these series contracts were negotiated on BYU's reputation alone, not on their conference affiliation. Thanks in advance.

Go Cougars!

Darren Rowe
Heber City, UT

@Chris B

I'll give you three good reasons for why BYU typically does not get great high school corners, since you seem to want to know the answer so badly.

1) BYU traditionally does not recruit fast players very well, and most great corners are fast. This goes for offense too. Our best recent skill players on offense, while very talented, were not fast: Collie, Hall, Unga, Pitta, Hoffman, etc. This is true in the secondary as well: Preston Hadley, Bradley, Rich and Sorenson were not fast. However, this trend is starting to change with Hill, Williams, and Blackmon.

2) Utah and Utah St. are good at developing corners for the NFL. They both had one this year. This makes it hard for BYU to attract top corners as opposed to playing at Utah/USU, just like BYU's success with linebackers and QB's makes it harder on the utes.

3) Bronco typically goes the JC route for corners. That's why Lake "gives the Cougars a rare prime cornerback prospect out of high school." Emphasis on "high school".

Darren Rowe
Heber City, UT

@JNA

BYU does play in Pasadena, Florida (twice), Texas, and Nebraska within the next two years. They also go to states such as Tennessee, Connecticut, California (twice plus next year's bowl game), Michigan, Idaho, Mississippi, and Nevada.

All within the next two years. I would say that is a pretty "consistent basis".

The New Mexico State and Idaho games were simply to fill out our schedule for the first 2 years when we had to quickly fill the slate.

Tomahawk Red
North Salt Lake, UT

skitter
Orem, UT

BYU is great at tight ends where as Utah is not.

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Utah is not good at producing tight ends?

Tomahawk Red
North Salt Lake, UT

Utah is up against some stiff competition for these kids.

Hopefully Utah will snag one or two, while it's unlikely USU or BYU will get any.

MyPerspective
Salt Lake City, UT

Darren Rowe
Heber City, UT

"Utah and Utah St. are good at developing corners for the NFL. They both had one this year. This makes it hard for BYU to attract top corners as opposed to playing at Utah/USU, just like BYU's success with linebackers and QB's makes it harder on the utes."

What?

Black&Blue
St George, Utah

Chris B.

Comparing CB to TE's is probably not the best way to explain this to you.

How about the QB position?
BYU has historically recruited QB's WAY better than Utah. Why is that??

According to Scout-

Elite 11 QB's:
BYU 2 - Utah 0

5 Star QB commits:
BYU 2 - Utah 0

4 Star QB commits:
BYU 4 - Utah 0

How do you explain this?

K&RGUY
San Francisco, CA

Looking at that photo of Kody Wilstead his lanky form and skinny arms make me think of Marc Wilson. I guess if he can have the same success as Marc Wilson I wouldn't mind seeing him in BYU blue. Disappointing that BYU isn't listed as a favorite for more of the top ranked players in the state this year. In years past BYU would have at least been in the running on most of the top players. I hope this is not a trend.

Cougsndawgs
West Point , UT

Chris:
Darren gave you a legitimate answer...still no response from you...crickets.

Why can't Utah attract better talent at QB? Your best QB over all the years is Alex Smith and that was a decade ago. You've never landed a 4 star QB, while BYU has landed multiple (although interestingly the higher star guys have flopped in the past). Is it because U "don't feature the QB" at the U? Nope...what's your excuse? What's your excuse for having NFL talent but can't compete at the highest levels of CFB? Let the excuses begin...

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